# Raw Power vs. androstenone spray **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 21, 2006, 2:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-vs-androstenone-spray/157 "2006-02-21T14:22:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![thr3shold](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thr3shold/32/2316_2.png) [@thr3shold](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thr3shold)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 2:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-vs-androstenone-spray/157/1 "2006-02-21T14:22:58Z")
I’m curious as to the difference between the spray and [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/). Which diffuses better? Does Raw Power have an included scent added to it? Which would you recommend and why? ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 3:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-vs-androstenone-spray/157/2 "2006-02-21T15:01:43Z")
> [@thr3shold](#): > > I’m curious as to the difference between the spray and Raw Power. Which diffuses better? Does Raw Power have an included scent added to it? Which would you recommend and why? Raw Power has a couple of diffusion enhancers that do bring out the natural androstenone odor a little more (to those who can smell it), but otherwise, it’s unscented. Sprays, especially high volume sprays like the ones we use, almost always diffuse [pheromones](https://a314.com/) better than point application products. Visualize the androstenone molecules, if you will. With a typical oil, you’re applying a dot and spread it over a limited area. You’re stacking the androstenone molecules high, one on top of each other. With a high-volume spray, you’re spreading a fine layer across a larger area of skin. The skin is the heated surface who’s job is to help diffuse molecules on it’s surface. The more you stack molecules, the less they heat up and diffuse… especially androstenone, which has a high affinity for the skin, and for other androstenone molecule. It loves to hold on, and NOT diffuse. As a metaphor, think of an imaginary tall pot of water with very little width or length, more like a tall glass of water than a pot. Very little bottom to touch the heated surface area of a stove. This is similar to point application style products, such the oil and alcohol based ones that use droppers. Contrast that to a big, wide pot, that’s short. Lots of area to make contact with the heat source, and a big wide mouth with lots of surface area to release steam from. A big wide pan like this would be more akin to a spray product. The more surface area you cover, the faster and easier it is to heat up the pheromone molecules. You also have more area to diffuse from. Two pluses in terms of diffusion. Where point applied oil based products really shine is in warm weather. Your body is virtually a _diffusion machine_ when it gets hot out, and it’s nice to have the rate limiting effect of oil products at that time. The other area where oils sometimes shine is with molecules that tend to diffuse quickly on their own. Unlike androstenone, which can stick to the skin for days, alpha androstenol diffuses very quickly in comparison. It’s fleeting and can benefit from oil application. You don’t get the intensity of reactions from oil-nol as you do spray nol, but the effect you do get is long lasting. (We do have 11,400 mcg per bottle alpha androstenol, beta androstenol and rone @ 20mcg drop drop; twice the dose of Raw power, at the same price as Raw power) ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 5:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-vs-androstenone-spray/157/3 "2006-02-21T17:39:11Z")
I like Turn Up The Heat Androstenone spray a lot. you can use a small amount of Anone or you can use more sprays to use a lot. RAW power is like 10mcg Anone/drop where as TUTH is 5mcg/spray. TUTH seems to me like the more diffusive and versatile product. Unless you want something to last a really long time, or you live in a place where its hot most of the time. I’ve noticed that the Anone products that work the best, tend to be the most diffusive ones out there. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 7:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-vs-androstenone-spray/157/4 "2006-02-21T19:34:33Z")
> [@Cloud9](#): > > I like Turn Up The Heat Androstenone spray a lot. you can use a small amount of Anone or you can use more sprays to use a lot. RAW power is like 10mcg Anone/drop where as TUTH is 5mcg/spray. TUTH seems to me like the more diffusive and versatile product. Unless you want something to last a really long time, or you live in a place where its hot most of the time. I’ve noticed that the Anone products that work the best, tend to be the most diffusive ones out there. Why not go with straight dosed ExperiMone -none? What advantage does TUTH have in your mind/experience? ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 7:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-vs-androstenone-spray/157/5 "2006-02-21T19:50:35Z")
TUTH has a mild spicy cover scent and may have better fixatives than the experimone line, which would allow for better diffusion. I know the Instant line has better fixatives than the experimone line. We’ll have to let Mharris chime in on the subject to see for sure what the differences may be. With Anone a mild cover scent helps hide any typical anone odors that some individuals may detect and it allows for the Anone to get out into the air better. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 7:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-vs-androstenone-spray/157/6 "2006-02-21T19:58:24Z")
Hmmmm. That could be. I always worry about clashing cover scents though. And may also prefer a cover that is different than that provided or dominant. Well, Mr Harris, what say? ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 8:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-vs-androstenone-spray/157/7 "2006-02-21T20:19:41Z")
the scent in TUTH is very mild and doesn’t clash with your cologne at all. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2006, 1:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-vs-androstenone-spray/157/8 "2006-04-11T01:15:10Z")
They have the same range as TUTH. =) but im sure TUTH smells better… ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2006, 1:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-vs-androstenone-spray/157/9 "2006-04-11T01:16:57Z")
I like TUTH’s smell. for me seems like 1 spray is just right as long as I use A314 with it. IS and IO help too i believe with some of the negatives from Anone. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2006, 1:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-vs-androstenone-spray/157/10 "2006-04-11T01:18:30Z")
> [@Cloud9](#): > > I like TUTH’s smell. for me seems like 1 spray is just right as long as I use A314 with it. IS and IO help too i believe with some of the negatives from Anone. you gotta replace IO with IH one day.😃 let me know what you think… ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2006, 1:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-vs-androstenone-spray/157/11 "2006-04-11T01:21:31Z")
I tried that one day, I noticed less talking. I did however noticed more deep coversations and well..honesty with my friends. I need to do more testing to see its effects better..they seem perhaps more sutble than IO, but maybe it’s because I’m new to using IH and bnol. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2006, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-vs-androstenone-spray/157/12 "2006-04-11T01:32:06Z")
> [@Cloud9](#): > > I tried that one day, I noticed less talking. I did however noticed more deep coversations and well..honesty with my friends. I need to do more testing to see its effects better..they seem perhaps more sutble than IO, but maybe it’s because I’m new to using IH and bnol. really? I noticed with IO, my friends seemed stoned, nobody was really talking, but it felt like someone was supposed to say something or contemplating what to say. until the drinks came out of course. than it was ALL FUN AND LAUGHS. IO works well with large groups tho. thats when small talk is usually the subject. there is little chat in IH, but when it starts, it rolls. and I much prefer the chat that comes out of IH than IO. im not very big on small talk to be honest. I like getting into debates. when in a relationship, im always and i mean always asking “What are you thinking???” people tend to be intimidated by me since i have a cold face. people arent very open with me (which is why i have to always ask) this should help with that now. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2006, 1:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-vs-androstenone-spray/157/13 "2006-04-11T01:37:22Z")
> [@](#): > > I also wore 4-5 sprays of [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) x2 when I went to my friends house a couple of days ago, and it was kinda quiet. like we were stoned. …until the vodka came out of course. the more i use [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) the more its apparent. 4-5 sprays of 2x strength IO is a but much I think..maybe 2 sprays of 2x would be much better. I like using 1x IO, because its a little more controlable. I use 3 sprays of 1x strength IO. 2 sprays to the head and 1 to the back of my hands. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2006, 1:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-vs-androstenone-spray/157/14 "2006-04-11T01:55:47Z")
> [@Cloud9](#): > > 4-5 sprays of 2x strength IO is a but much I think..maybe 2 sprays of 2x would be much better. I like using 1x IO, because its a little more controlable. I use 3 sprays of 1x strength IO. 2 sprays to the head and 1 to the back of my hands. i’ll try 2 sprays of IO x2 by itself next time. IO has slowly been finding its way OUT of my mixes lately. _shrugs_ ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2006, 1:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-vs-androstenone-spray/157/15 "2006-04-11T01:57:12Z")
maybe you just got too much on..I’ve noticed a zombie effect with too much of certain products.. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2006, 2:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-vs-androstenone-spray/157/16 "2006-04-11T02:01:00Z")
> [@Cloud9](#): > > maybe you just got too much on..I’ve noticed a zombie effect with too much of certain products.. yea it does!!! I dont like that mind wondering feel very much. IH is sharp, its like you zoom into your thoughts. I like that feel better. hmmm maybe I should try a hardcore nol mix. like 5 sprays of IO x2 and 6 sprays of IH x2. see what happens, just for kicks. maybe on the last day with my class.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2006, 2:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/raw-power-vs-androstenone-spray/157/17 "2006-04-11T02:02:24Z")
> [@](#): > > maybe I should try a hardcore nol mix. like 5 sprays of IO x2 and 6 sprays of IH x2. see what happens, just for kicks. lol..you might cause you and other people’s heads to explode!