# re: Question about MCG / Spray **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 20, 2011, 12:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/re-question-about-mcg-spray/50383 "2011-05-20T00:09:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![blammo11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ec8ea/32.png) [@blammo11](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/blammo11)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 12:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/re-question-about-mcg-spray/50383/1 "2011-05-20T00:09:33Z")
So the commercial line (regular strength) is 2.5 MCG / spray. I see some mixes where users use single molecule Putatives and are putting on 20-70 MCG total mixed with other Putatives. My queston how do people see affects with 1 or 2 sprays of the commercial line where only 2.5 to 5 MCG is applied. But for putatives people are putting on 20-70 MCG total? Am I missing something? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 2:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/re-question-about-mcg-spray/50383/2 "2011-05-20T02:45:15Z")
> [@blammo11](#): > > So the commercial line (regular strength) is 2.5 MCG / spray. I see some mixes where users use single molecule Putatives and are putting on 20-70 MCG total mixed with other Putatives. > > My queston how do people see affects with 1 or 2 sprays of the commercial line where only 2.5 to 5 MCG is applied. > > But for putatives people are putting on 20-70 MCG total? > > Am I missing something? People are often putting on more than they need, but keep in mind that the instant line contains multiple [pheromones](https://a314.com/) at times, at that dosage. ---
**Author:** ![blammo11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ec8ea/32.png) [@blammo11](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/blammo11)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 3:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/re-question-about-mcg-spray/50383/3 "2011-05-20T03:48:09Z")
Thanks John - so since IH has both A and B nols - does that mean 1 spray has 2.5 mcg or 2.5 mcg of A nol and 2.5 mcg of B nol? ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 4:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/re-question-about-mcg-spray/50383/4 "2011-05-20T04:24:47Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > People are often putting on more than they need, but keep in mind that the instant line contains multiple pheromones at times, at that dosage. Yep… as I learn more about mixing, I come to realize that your sweet spot using a product solo, is not necessarily going to be your sweet spot when combining a couple of products together. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 5:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/re-question-about-mcg-spray/50383/5 "2011-05-20T05:39:16Z")
> [@blammo11](#): > > So the commercial line (regular strength) is 2.5 MCG / spray. I see some mixes where users use single molecule Putatives and are putting on 20-70 MCG total mixed with other Putatives. > > My queston how do people see affects with 1 or 2 sprays of the commercial line where only 2.5 to 5 MCG is applied. > > But for putatives people are putting on 20-70 MCG total? > > Am I missing something? There are a few reasons… There is no consumer product that is 2.5 mcg of total pheromones per spray. When people say 2.5 of anone in ammo or tuth thats just for the anone it doesn’t account for other pheromones in the product. For instance Ammo is 7.5 mcgs per spray 3 [human pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) IO, IH and Ishine are 15 mcg’s per spray 3 human pheromones TUTH is I believe 15 mcgs to 20 mcg’s if I recall correctly. 11 human pheromones These amounts still may seem low to you but there is a reason. We all have different sweet spots and this gives people the ability to find the correct dosage that works for them as opposed to other products where you are stuck with a huge amount of unneeded pheromones that can be detrimental to the seeing success with the products because your Oding or stuck with to much per spray or drop.. Most people use 1 to 3 sprays of something like Ishine which is 45 mcgs of product with 2 sprays of ammo which is 15 mcgs for a total of 60 mcg’s of mones. You can see how the numbers can climb. Another thing as John mentioned is that people assume there sweet spot when they are testing a single molecule is the same for when they layer. That’s not how you layer. You pick one or two primary mones and steer with lower amounts of other putatives. People simply use to much. > [@](#): > > Thanks John - so since IH has both A and B nols - does that mean 1 spray has 2.5 mcg or 2.5 mcg of A nol and 2.5 mcg of B nol? IH has 3 human pheromones anol bnol and one undisclosed. Bnol is the primary, at about 70%. So about 10.5 mcgs is bnol not 2.5. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 6:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/re-question-about-mcg-spray/50383/6 "2011-05-20T06:26:44Z")
To just add to tisha’s post, TUTH, as per the smartmones site, is the lowest content product at 2.5mcg of pheromones per spray, pretty potent for a small dosage. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 7:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/re-question-about-mcg-spray/50383/7 "2011-05-20T07:13:20Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > To just add to tisha’s post, TUTH, as per the smartmones site, is the lowest content product at 2.5mcg of pheromones per spray, pretty potent for a small dosage. I know the drop down menu implies that in the store and I used to think it as well and tell people that until Jasmin corrected me in the forum. If I can find the post I will link it (below). She said the 2.5 is just the anone. There are 11 others and the total dosage per spray was comparable to the other products sold at around 15 to 20 mcgs. Its one of the products that doesn’t have a technical explanation in the store so I am going strictly by what she told me here in the forum. There is no product with just 2.5 per spray. Tisha Edit to add \>\>\>\>\> Found the link [WTF some scary S%\*#](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420) MHarris explained it has lots of other [pheromone](https://a314.com/) modifers but doesnt mention the actual dosage total. I think Jasmin may have explained that later in a PM convo we had. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 1:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/re-question-about-mcg-spray/50383/8 "2011-05-20T13:46:35Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > I know the drop down menu implies that in the store and I used to think it as well and tell people that until Jasmin corrected me in the forum. If I can find the post I will link it (below). She said the 2.5 is just the anone. There are 11 others and the total dosage per spray was comparable to the other products sold at around 15 to 20 mcgs. Its one of the products that doesn’t have a technical explanation in the store so I am going strictly by what she told me here in the forum. > > There is no product with just 2.5 per spray. > > Tisha > > Edit to add \>\>\>\>\> Found the link [WTF some scary S%\*#](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420) > > MHarris explained it has lots of other pheromone modifers but doesnt mention the actual dosage total. I think Jasmin may have explained that later in a PM convo we had. Oh wow, I’ve known about the ton of steering molecules but I always thought that it was 2.5 mcg/spray total and not straight -none. Also (No I’m not trying to stir the pot) I’ve always thought since it was only 30 bucks, that it was near impossible to have a higher pheromone mcg count comparable to most of the Instant Line. But thanks for the link tisha I’ve always thought it was low -none + mods. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 6:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/re-question-about-mcg-spray/50383/9 "2011-05-20T18:42:14Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Oh wow, I’ve known about the ton of steering molecules but I always thought that it was 2.5 mcg/spray total and not straight -none. Also (No I’m not trying to stir the pot) I’ve always thought since it was only 30 bucks, that it was near impossible to have a higher pheromone mcg count comparable to most of the Instant Line. But thanks for the link tisha I’ve always thought it was low -none + mods. I think its less expensive because anone is about the least expensive pheromone you can buy from the labs. Believe me I made the same mistake as you and thought it was straight 2.5 or 5.0 mcgs of anone until she informed me. Wonder why there is no tech info on this one in the store ? Tisha ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/re-question-about-mcg-spray/50383/10 "2011-05-20T19:30:47Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > I think its less expensive because anone is about the least expensive pheromone you can buy from the labs. Believe me I made the same mistake as you and thought it was straight 2.5 or 5.0 mcgs of anone until she informed me. Wonder why there is no tech info on this one in the store ? > > Tisha Because John Sebastian is a slacker. But really I wonder if they can update that so it’s not misleading. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/re-question-about-mcg-spray/50383/11 "2011-05-20T20:02:17Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Because John Sebastian is a slacker. > > But really I wonder if they can update that so it’s not misleading. 😛 I’d have to get the copy from Jasmin to make sure its appropriate. I’ll see what I can do.