# Recipe Central **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 24, 2009, 3:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/recipe-central/26424 "2009-02-24T03:31:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 23
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 1:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/recipe-central/26424/23 "2009-02-26T01:53:20Z")
> [@Sillykitty](#): > > Of course!! I always cite the author of anything, otherwise that would be plagiarism, which I absolutely abhor!! Citing is good. But this is more than being about plagerism. I’m more concerned with full contact, when possible, _before_ posting, and a thorough compilation of potential effects - both positive and negative. Here’s an example from my own latest mixes: I am a big fan of P80 and I use it in place of Androstenone - which I have had bad reactions to. Some of my sexy mixes contain both P80 and P79. P80 has always been considered a strong masculine pheromone, and P79 has been variously classified, most often as an intensifier, but also as a wildcard. These two molecules in my mix work for me and for my husband in very good ways. But the two together have the potential for some startling, and potentially frightening effects. Bella’s husband applied P80 and P79 and ended up throwing her on floor and spanking the living daylights out of her. It’s in her journal if you want to read about it. > [@Da Bella da Ball Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/84): > > … > > Wolf: > -2 drops **Raw Power** - spread to sides of neck under/jaw line > -1 Scent of Eros For Men gel pack - spread as above and behind neck > -2 sprays **AMMO/2X** - both to neck > -1 spray Instant honesty/4X - to back of head > > Bella: > > - 1 scent of Eros gel pak For Women spread inside arms up into pits and a little behind neck > - 2 Sprays Instant Sexiness/B - 1 to to neck and 1 split wrists > - 2 sprays MX 135 - both to neck/chest > - 2 sprays Instant Honesty/4X - to back of head > … > > Pheromones added later… > > Wolf: > -2 sprays **AMMO** /2X - 1 to neck, 1 to lower abdomen > -1 spray **p80/7.5mcg** - to neck…like I said…gotta watch him… > > Bella: > -12 drops EoW > -1 scent of Eros gel pak For Women spread inside arms up into pits and a little behind neck > -2 spray Instant Sexiness/A - both to chest/neck > -2 Sprays Instant Sexiness/B - both to neck/chest > -2 sprays MX 135 - both to neck/chest > -3 drops Extreme Honesty 20mcg/drop - 2 between shoulder blades…drip/dry where it may and 1 drop in cleavage… > -15mcg TAF to neck/chest > … > > This all takes about 45mins before I head downstairs…what? ya think this all happens Instantly?..lol. I walk into the living room where Wolf has our drinks and music’s playing from a stack of CD’s. He’s sitting in his chair waiting for me…sipping looking at me over his glass. I sit down on the footstool in front of him and pick up my drink. He’s still quiet…looking at me intently…sumthin’s goin’ on here and I can’t quite put my finger on it. We sit there for a few minutes. OK…sigh. > > Me… “I’m sorry about the smoking.” > He says… “I’ve heard it before. We’ve talked about this.” > “I know, I know…you don’t like it.” > “Don’t like it? I hate it …you know I do. I can see I have to do something about it.” > “What can you do about it?”…those fateful words. “I just have to not do it.” > “It appears you need incentive.” > “What?..do I have a quota to meet?” I blather on…I must be possessed…“Are you my f’in’ MOTHER?” Oh, God. Me…and my big mouth…we’re a pair. I’ve tried and tried to seperate us many times…to no avail. Maybe a few more lessons like this…? All this time I shoulda been praying…_Holy MOTHER of God!_ > “NO..I’m NOT your mother…but I’m, sure as hell, gonna show you whose your Daddy! You need to be straightened out!” > > Uh oh…😮…THAT LOOK! He grabs me by the arms and in one motion…I’m looking at the hardwood. No. Not _that_ hardwood. WTF! Wolf commences to firmly and repeatedly make his point…undeterred by my, rather vocal, protests! “If this happens again…I won’t be so nice about it!” Holy shit! I believe him!..a man of his word he is. Soon the knots in the hardwood start looking like stars! “Ow! I’m sorry!” “Not as sorry as you’re gonna be!” O..M..F..G..! I’m impressed! I also think I need a nurse! LOL. > > Next thing I know I’m sitting upright on the footstool looking at him DIHL. I’m sure I was a sight…:o Holy f\*\*k! What just happened!? He’s looking at me…“Have I made my point?” NOW I’m speechless…I nod. He takes me by the shouders and pulls me onto his lap. Two seconds later…we’re in the clinch. He scoops me up and literally carries me upstairs. What happened next?..Oh my…Good God Almighty…let’s jus say I should be in confession…we should _both_ be in confession…Jeeezus. Where the f is Reverend Evolver when ya need him? > > I should tell you while all this was transpiring…Wolf was never mad. His demeanor was, in fact, rather calm…matter of fact and quite..ah…determined. Though is voice is distinctive, easily heard, and tres deep…he never really raised it. Well, he did raise it at one point…so he could be heard over me…lol. > > _Here’s the kicker_…‘member when I saw Wolf standing at his dresser spraying?..‘member when I told ya sumthin’ was up that I couldn’t quite put my finger on? Ya…unbeknownst to me he not only resprayed AMMO…he also sprayed on **2…count 'em…2…sprays P80/7.5mcg** …\*aaand \ ***1 spray _P79/12.5mcg!_** WHO THE FUCK KNEW??? Surpirse, surprise…that’s my Wolfie!..like I said…gotta watch him. I mean we’ve tried P80…in this mix..ah..NO P79…and it…let’s say added it’s own forceful? element…which we both liked. We’ve also added P79 to this mix..no P80…which I reported on earlier in my journal. Even though the P80 has this…don’t quite know how else to put it…hammer effect…the P79 seemed to put a real/it’s own directive on things…his mood? It was calm, forceful and driven at the same time… > …my little head was spinning. Anyways it didn’t start out OR end up, quite, as expected…that’s fo’ shizzle…well, not the first part anyways! 😛 > > … > > I think rather than anything new to report on the effects of P80, thus far, this report reinforces what little I could search out on this molecule and mostly what Tacitus concluded…go easy..heh…Colonel my a\*\*…more like Rear Admiral!..and prolly dun mix it wit no/less P79…?..and maybe too much reapplying AMMO? I jus DK. Frankly, the man has been known to surprise me…butt! I have some further observations and thoughts on this…IDK what to call it…but i’m tired of typing. > > … > Bella\*… > > \*\*\*For the entire post go here: \*\*[Da Bella da Ball Journal - #84 by Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/84) So Musky reported something similar using P80 with no P79, when he ended up be uncharacteristically aggressive with his wife: > [@So\_Musky](#): > > Day 3 > Location: Home > Amount: **20 mcg of P80** , and my Musky Loves His Wife combo (2 sprays of IFM, 2 sprays of Instant Honesty, 2 sprays of **TUTH** , **4 sprays of P83** , 2 drops of A314) > > Ok, I wear that combo a fair bit when I feel like getting lucky, but this time… Oh man, I don’t know what came over me. I blame the P80 and the P83. I probably shouldn’t have deviated from the testing, but I wanted to see how it would fit in a combo. > > I was working at the home office this morning and the wife went and dropped off the kids. I showered and put on the above combo. I was feeling very aroused. She got home and I was watching her pick stuff up and she noticed I was staring. Converation went like this; > > She said to me “You look like somethings wrong or you want to say something.” > I responded, “Yea, I want to bend you over the couch and f–k the living daylights out of you.” She started to say something, but I interrupted and said “First, I want you to go get a shower and shave, just how I like it, and when you’re done I’m gonna punish you for it.” > She didn’t know what to stay, and was kind of stuttering. So she said “You are?” > I said, “Yes, and I’m _not_ asking.” > She said “Fine, but I want you to do the shaving.” > > Ok this may not seem like much to some of you guys out there, but I never talk to my wife like that. After her shave, it was lunch time 😃 (pardon my crudeness, ladies) and then an hour and a half of rough, dirty, illegal in some states, sex. There wasn’t a place I didn’t penetrate and not a place she didn’t beg me to hit again. That was just the type of sex we needed. It really did well for us. I didn’t realize how much she enjoyed that really aggressive sex. > > **For the entire post go here:** [Reflections on P80 - #4 by So\_Musky](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/reflections-on-p80/25295/4) My husband and I have not had a similar episode. But our aggression is ramped up sexually in appropriate and fun ways. But I wouldn’t want any of my recipes containing P80 and P79 to be posted to the recipe section without thorough and adequate warning to the potential effects for this type of aggression from these molecules. Both of these episodes quoted above, the participants were also wearing Androstenone, and it could be (but not certain) that Androstenone with P80 (one with P79 and one with P83) thrown in cause this over the top aggression. But we don’t know. And there’s the rub. But the constant here was P80. When I first decided to use P80 and P79 together, I went in knowing there was a potential for trouble. So I went slow, started very dilute, and raised the dosage of each molecule individually until I got the response from myself and my husband that worked for us at the level of intensity that we wanted. I’m still pushing the envelope and as soon as I hit the cut off I’ll report on that too. Something like this, though, how can you cookbook it? I don’t think you can. In cases like this you still have to find your own sweet spot, and whether _this particular molecule_ or _that particular molecule_ works well with you personally or not. And the potential for trouble makes posting warnings about it required, imo. Diane --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/recipe-central/26424)._