# Reduce -none aggression and A1 depression

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/reduce-none-aggression-and-a1-depression/2023>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 13, 2007, 4:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/reduce-none-aggression-and-a1-depression/2023 "2007-02-13T16:25:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2007, 4:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/reduce-none-aggression-and-a1-depression/2023/17 "2007-03-10T04:15:26Z")

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> [@PheroQuirk](#):
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> TAK seems to let me get away with large amounts of none (do search on Instant Jerk + TAK). I haven’t yet noticed this at all with P86 or P79.

Quirk,  
have you tried high-dose P86 with Androstenone? I am talking 50 mcg or more at a time with some Androstenone. That’s how much Tacitus uses and he seems to be saying it is a great mellower (see below). Does P86 on its own still make you feel ‘jangly’ or is it comparable to TAK for you as a mellower? Have you tried lower doses at all with P86 on its own and with -None - maybe 50 mcg is too much for you as per your post below?

> [@the inscrutability of p86](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-inscrutability-of-p86/630/4):
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> Hmmm… 50mcg (applied midway thru day on prev-applied base of a314 and Shine). Jangly, tuned in more than usual to stress of family getting ready for christmas guests. Not much anxiolytic there at all for me on this occasion. Some sense of distancing too.

PheroQuirk:  
“Hmmm… 50mcg (applied midway thru day on prev-applied base of A314 and Shine). Jangly, tuned in more than usual to stress of family getting ready for christmas guests. Not much anxiolytic there at all for me on this occasion. Some sense of distancing too.”

> [@Let's visit the Orgasmotron !](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lets-visit-the-orgasmotron/1572/8):
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> I am starting to think that the Photosonix dual hemisphere training is, in itself, a potent sexual enhancer because the sex becomes a “whole mind/whole self” experience… and there is a great synergy between the mind holism pheromones (esp estratatreanol IMHO) and the what6ever it is, meditative training that the Photosonix is doing to the mind… BTW, the new machine is called the Nova 100 I think, their best one, and the codes for which programs are different… I can send you the right codes for t…

Tacitus:  
“…with the acceptance mix, maybe the the balance of 50 [mu](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) of [p86](https://pheromonelabs.com/) makes it behave… no probs whatsoever…”

> [@Invisibility Pheromones (wear to make you unnoticable)?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/invisibility-pheromones-wear-to-make-you-unnoticable/1448/3):
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> How much TAK, dienol, 75 and 86 herr doktor tacitus?

Tacitus:  
“…I’ve found [P86](https://pheromonelabs.com/) to be a superb mellower of situations, others have had different results…”

> [@P79 + P83 with bright shiny mones in the background](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-p83-with-bright-shiny-mones-in-the-background/1176/12):
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> The singing may have been a sense of relief from background anxiety… P86 is not exactly TAK… my opinion is that it feels better, “rounder”, quite soothing… it might serve well as an buffer when you want calm erotocism versus too stoked up passions running amok

Tacitus:  
" [P86](https://pheromonelabs.com/) is not exactly [TAK](https://pheromonelabs.com/)… my opinion is that it feels better, “rounder”, quite soothing… it might serve well as an buffer when you want calm erotocism versus too stoked up passions running amok"

> [@P79 + P83 with bright shiny mones in the background](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-p83-with-bright-shiny-mones-in-the-background/1176/10):
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> Ah, yessss… P86… well, kids, P86 is kind of a super TAK… it isn’t an energizer or an erotociser… it IS a very consistent sedative or calmative pheromone… sometimes I actually use it as a sleep aid.. it won’t make you sleepy directly, it will substantially quiet you down… very centering… anti-anxiety… I’ve always thought of P86 as the Prozac of pheromones… where P88 is really weird stuff, clearly in the oddball camp… one of the pheromonodelics… in small doses will add a potent sense of social awa…

Tacitus:  
"Ah, yessss… [P86](https://pheromonelabs.com/)… well, kids, [P86](https://pheromonelabs.com/) is kind of a super [TAK](https://pheromonelabs.com/)… it isn’t an energizer or an erotociser… it IS a very consistent sedative or calmative pheromone… sometimes I actually use it as a sleep aid.. it won’t make you sleepy directly, it will substantially quiet you down… very centering… anti-anxiety… I’ve always thought of [P86](https://pheromonelabs.com/) as the Prozac of pheromones… "

> [@An Uncool Goober Monk on Pheromones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-uncool-goober-monk-on-pheromones/830/39):
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> Don’t fish off the company pier dude my general thinking is the ONLY pheromones I’d want to use in the WORKPLACE are the non-sexual, mind clearing or pro-communicative types… low dose of P87 or P88 comes to mind… absolutely NOT the andronstenone of -none like substances… IME, many people have either poor impulse control or less than ideal levels of self awareness and are not overly conscious of how “past the envelope” of professional behavior they can be… remember, and remember well, that any d…

Tacitus:  
“… BTW [P86](https://pheromonelabs.com/) can be useful as a social level headed -pheromone… it seems to reduce aggression and spontaneously inappropriate behavior…”

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