# Refined P83 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 1, 2011, 1:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/refined-p83/53566 "2011-12-01T13:13:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 8
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 1:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/refined-p83/53566/8 "2011-12-02T01:51:33Z")
You misunderstand the use of refining. you purify p88 you should have p93. Jasmins explanation of p88 was that it was a rough synthesis and p93 was a stricter lab procedure to return a purer yield of that molecule. P88 was said to have active impurities as a result of this rough synthesis. If its an impurity its in such a small amount along with who knows what other impurities active or inactive are in there. > [@P88 - The Urge to Merge](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p88-the-urge-to-merge/33120/30): > > Reverse Engineering the Effects of P88 Jasmin has ended our wait for P88 with [a post, I’m sure, nobody expected](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rough-synthesis-vs-perfect-p88-vs-p93/40741/1). In brief, P88 is an irreproducible batch of P93 from a now defunct lab. P88’s distinctive qualities are the result of unknown impurities. Hence my quest to determine what those impurities might be. More than just Androstenone and P93 At first, I thought Androstenone might be a key component. It is the relatively prevalent, grandfather pheromone molecule, a reasonable place for … What you should really be asking is why dont they identify that “impurity” and make it. The problem with the rough synthesis as explained by jasmin is that its not always repeatable. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/refined-p83/53566)._