# Refined P83 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 1, 2011, 1:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/refined-p83/53566 "2011-12-01T13:13:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 9
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 2:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/refined-p83/53566/9 "2011-12-02T02:20:34Z")
> [@hoplessly](#): > > You misunderstand the use of refining. > > you purify p88 you should have p93. Jasmins explanation of p88 was that it was a rough synthesis and p93 was a stricter lab procedure to return a purer yield of that molecule. P88 was said to have active impurities as a result of this rough synthesis. If its an impurity its in such a small amount along with who knows what other impurities active or inactive are in there. > > [P88 - The Urge to Merge - #30 by Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p88-the-urge-to-merge/33120/30) > > What you should really be asking is why dont they identify that “impurity” and make it. > > The problem with the rough synthesis as explained by jasmin is that its not always repeatable. I found the article > [@Rough synthesis vs. "perfect" - P88 vs. P93](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rough-synthesis-vs-perfect-p88-vs-p93/40741): > > P88 vs. P93 - Rough synthesis vs. “perfect” (or what chemists call “standard” synthesis) I think we’ve blind tested the two long enough to reveal this. While the bulk of the chemicals in our P line are absolutely unique structures, sometimes we do have two different synthesis paths of what should technically be “the same” molecule. In this case, P93 and P88 have a very unique relationship. P93 is the absolute laboratory standard, meticulously synthesized in small batches with TLC at every syn… I guess the question is: Is [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) a lab refined molecule or a commercial molecule? --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/refined-p83/53566)._