# Relationship Mix, Shine x2 or p83?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-mix-shine-x2-or-p83/43075>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [November 4, 2010, 7:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-mix-shine-x2-or-p83/43075 "2010-11-04T07:58:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![pheromojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheromojo/32/368_2.png) [@pheromojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheromojo)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 7:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-mix-shine-x2-or-p83/43075/1 "2010-11-04T07:58:48Z")

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Now before you say anything, I know IS and p83 are nothing alike. I’m just on a budget and am trying to consider the best addition to my collection for the time being until I purchase both. This is not a thread trying to see which is a “better” product.

My current relationship mix is simply A-1\*(which I absolutely LOVE, though I get no depression from it…you may be different)\* and some double strength IH. I’m young and blood type O, so I havent tried my ammo to go around her yet, especially cause this particular girl can be irritable at times as it is, and I dont ever want to seem like I’m coming on too strong either. Basically the possible negatives have me scared to use it, but I _might_ consider sneaking a spray of it in this weekend to see the results.

So my question is, which to go with next? I’ve been looking at Shine double strength for a while now and until I started reading up on the putatives, it was in my shopping cart waiting till I had the spare funds. BUT now, i’ve been hearing that p83 acts as a dis-inhibitor/intensifier??? seems like it might be good to help those feelings escalate which are being made apparent through A-1 and IH. Then again, Shine supposedly is fantastic for use with both A1 and IH, but I’m not sure how beneficial it would be to me for my specific intentions. I dont exactly give off a brooding and somber vibe, though everyone could always use a little shine. 🙄

Thoughts?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 10:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-mix-shine-x2-or-p83/43075/2 "2010-11-04T10:48:06Z")

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Both are great at helping you get close to someone.

Personally I would say that adding [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) to my choice of pheros did a lot to move things along and with a few people. I see its space-reducing/disinhibitor properties clearly. however I have recently picked-up the IS again and that seems to have brought a new level of fun and pleasure to my interactions.

I just don’t want a repeat of the last time I used IShine and TUTH together! 😮😃

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**Author:** ![Sully462](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d26b3c/32.png) [@Sully462](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sully462)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 5:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-mix-shine-x2-or-p83/43075/3 "2010-11-04T17:12:28Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> I just don’t want a repeat of the last time I used IS and TUTH together! 😮 😃

Should I be afraid to ask why? I’m a noob and just bought both products… what kind of a crazy time am I potentially in for?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 5:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-mix-shine-x2-or-p83/43075/4 "2010-11-04T17:31:06Z")

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I’d have to trawl back through the posts but in essence, I ended-up with an incredibly horny woman who absolutely welded herself to me - even to the point of coming-in and straddling me when I went to the toilet for a shite but she was saying - **“Lets leave the sex tonight, this conversation is such a turn-on in itself!”**

And we did talk and we talked and talked horny - All bloody night! 😮 :o 😃

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**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-mix-shine-x2-or-p83/43075/5 "2010-11-04T17:38:47Z")

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Wow a tough one here. I really like [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/), I did a lot of testing with it and you can find the results in my journal.  
IS is great too. I forget how good it is until I toss some one and get in the car with my girl and next thing she’s just rolling…but then not patting myself on the back I’m a funny guy. It just really helps.

I’d have to go with P83, that’s just me. You’ll find it works really well somewhere around 20-60mcgs. I picked up a 10mcg bottle and usually go with 40. I’d be interested to hear how your testing went.

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**Author:** ![Sully462](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d26b3c/32.png) [@Sully462](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sully462)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 6:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-mix-shine-x2-or-p83/43075/6 "2010-11-04T18:03:01Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> I’d have to trawl back through the posts but in essence, I ended-up with an incredibly horny woman who absolutely welded herself to me - even to the point of coming-in and straddling me when I went to the toilet for a shite but she was saying - **“Lets leave the sex tonight, this conversation is such a turn-on in itself!”**
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> And we did talk and we talked and talked horny - All bloody night! 😮 :o 😃

Well… that should make things interesting… and, honestly, who actually likes pooping alone?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-mix-shine-x2-or-p83/43075/7 "2010-11-04T19:15:34Z")

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> [@Sully462](#):
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> Well… that should make things interesting… and, honestly, who actually likes pooping alone?

Well, if that’s your kind of specialist interest, fine! 😃

I could have been up to other things but thankfully [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/)/Tuth got this back on track soon after. 🙂

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**Author:** ![samuraitea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/samuraitea/32/1998_2.png) [@samuraitea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/samuraitea)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 8:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-mix-shine-x2-or-p83/43075/8 "2010-11-04T20:53:52Z")

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As well as I [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) is the better move for the relationship, closeness will become more evident, sexual tension may arise… P83 really impressed me with my current mix and I will continue to wear it! My gf reacts to it greatly! Her eyes get dilated to the extreme, she also gets much more cuddly and “close” more willing to be sexual per say…P83!!

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 10:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-mix-shine-x2-or-p83/43075/9 "2010-11-04T22:15:17Z")

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Yes - 30-40mcg [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) seems to be my best dose.

I’m at Model Girl’s tonight I’ll be spraying P83 after our court appearance tomorrow. Nothing nasty, just a tradesman dispute.

Sprayed a little NPA in Antaeus before arrival and as soon as her prim and proper visitor left, she was talking sex!

Tomorrow could be fun if we win. 😉 🙂

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 11:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-mix-shine-x2-or-p83/43075/10 "2010-11-04T23:56:30Z")

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I’ve might have just made it a bit easier for you in your decision. I added you the the reporting user list. You’ve been doing a great job so early entry for yah 🙂.

What you should do, is give me a call when you can and I will talk you through some stuff. We can work something out and with your new discount I’m sure it wont break the bank 🙂

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**Author:** ![samuraitea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/samuraitea/32/1998_2.png) [@samuraitea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/samuraitea)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 12:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-mix-shine-x2-or-p83/43075/11 "2010-11-05T00:00:22Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> I’ve might have just made it a bit easier for you in your decision. I added you the the reporting user list. You’ve been doing a great job so early entry for yah 🙂.
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> What you should do, is give me a call when you can and I will talk you through some stuff. We can work something out and with your new discount I’m sure it wont break the bank 🙂

The VERY BEST THING you can do! Thanks Steve 😃 !

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**Author:** ![pheromojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheromojo/32/368_2.png) [@pheromojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheromojo)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 4:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-mix-shine-x2-or-p83/43075/12 "2010-11-05T04:01:36Z")

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Steve, if you and I were in the same room with a bunch of p93 and some mystery boy, I think I just might kiss you. 😛

Big might though. I’m not gay at all but you just made my night. 🙂 I’ll be depositing my latest check into the bank tomorrow and making my order then. So [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) it is. But I think I’ll go ahead and get some TAA while I’m at it.

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 4:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-mix-shine-x2-or-p83/43075/13 "2010-11-05T04:41:09Z")

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> [@pheromojo](#):
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> Steve, if you and I were in the same room with a bunch of p93 and some mystery boy, I think I just might kiss you. 😛
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> Big might though. I’m not gay at all but you just made my night. 🙂 I’ll be depositing my latest check into the bank tomorrow and making my order then. So P83 it is. But I think I’ll go ahead and get some TAA while I’m at it.

Congratulations are in order!!! _High Five_!!!

You will go far, my friend!!!

I have TAA and you’ll have fun! I’ve done 10x sprays at 40 mcg with it and it’s fun!

I’ll see your [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) and raise you P90!!! 😃

Looking forward to your reports, bud!

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**Author:** ![pheromojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheromojo/32/368_2.png) [@pheromojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheromojo)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2010, 7:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-mix-shine-x2-or-p83/43075/14 "2010-11-06T19:53:04Z")

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Lol. You got it. My order is in the lab today. I imagine I’ll be getting it early to the middle of next week?

Anyways, the plan is to test it around the casual subjects until next weekend, when I see the real target. Reports to come! 🙂

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 11:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-mix-shine-x2-or-p83/43075/15 "2010-11-08T23:11:35Z")

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> [@pheromojo](#):
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> Steve, if you and I were in the same room with a bunch of p93 and some mystery boy, I think I just might kiss you. 😛
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> Big might though. I’m not gay at all but you just made my night. 🙂 I’ll be depositing my latest check into the bank tomorrow and making my order then. So P83 it is. But I think I’ll go ahead and get some TAA while I’m at it.

LOL, that’s just silly talk my friend 🙂
