# Relationship-nurturing combos? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 28, 2009, 1:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-nurturing-combos/25441 "2009-01-28T01:28:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kismet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc8723/32.png) [@kismet](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kismet)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 1:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-nurturing-combos/25441/1 "2009-01-28T01:28:52Z")
OK, so let’s say that you’ve been dating a guy for a little over a month, and by dating, we mean having practically nonstop really hot sex with, but also bonding over things like cooking dinner together and watching teevee and such. Let’s say this relationship started out with a little MX-274 on and has progressed with MX-274 always present. Any date involves, first thing, touching, extensive kissing, and (if outside the house) plenty of PDA. That there is major physical attraction and compatibility is not in question. Now let’s say we want to shift this into the direction of getting more serious emotionally, kicking over the little switches in the brain that say “hey, I want this girl around for a loooong time”. What would YOU spray? ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 1:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-nurturing-combos/25441/2 "2009-01-28T01:57:51Z")
> [@kismet](#): > > What would YOU spray? EST, no doubt. And betanol (or Instant Honesty). ---
**Author:** ![remmy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/remmy/32/2451_2.png) [@remmy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/remmy)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 2:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-nurturing-combos/25441/3 "2009-01-28T02:59:39Z")
ditto that. and maybe high dose p74. ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 7:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-nurturing-combos/25441/4 "2009-01-28T07:32:27Z")
I’m not sure what’s already in MX274, but judging from my own experience at feeling smitten, the EST and plenty of Instant Honesty would be hard to beat. You might amp them up with some MEO-EST, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and P86. We men are pretty visual and P86 hits us right in the eyes. P86 with Instant Honesty will really do a number on my heart and soul. ---
**Author:** ![kismet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc8723/32.png) [@kismet](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kismet)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 12:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-nurturing-combos/25441/5 "2009-01-28T12:59:28Z")
Is it just me, or does EST cost as much as my left arm? I have a little (low concentration) P86. I haven’t posted much about it here because I have tried it in tandem with the MX-274 and nothing seems different in terms of hits/responses, and also I have a slight suspicion (based on early tests which I haven’t wanted to repeat) that it makes me weepy and paranoid, sorta like PMS in a bottle. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 1:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-nurturing-combos/25441/6 "2009-01-28T13:50:05Z")
> [@kismet](#): > > Is it just me, or does EST cost as much as my left arm? > > I have a little (low concentration) P86. I haven’t posted much about it here because I have tried it in tandem with the MX-274 and nothing seems different in terms of hits/responses, and also I have a slight suspicion (based on early tests which I haven’t wanted to repeat) that it makes me weepy and paranoid, sorta like PMS in a bottle. you know, i think Tisha might have posted something similar but i cant be sure. i havent had any emotional experience with it yet, only positivity and fun, and- this is odd- i cant pin down why i like to wear it. its like i want to wear it,smell it,have it around, but i cant pegdown why. very odd. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 1:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-nurturing-combos/25441/7 "2009-01-28T13:53:50Z")
im with ariadne, 100% . IH and EST, atleast 100mu. i would even add some IS/A , to keep the mix having a sexual vibe. im not sure many guys are thinking of settling when they dont have to wait for hot sex. definately a plus that the hotsex is there, though. the personality that just _goes for it_ in that amount of time as a rule isnt looking for long term, but i hope IH and EST seals the deal for you. ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-nurturing-combos/25441/8 "2009-01-28T21:05:12Z")
I’m a huge fan of the combos suggested above. My favorite is pairing EST, instant honesty and mx135. My h absolutely crushes on me when I’m wearing it. Have fun Kismet! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 9:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-nurturing-combos/25441/9 "2009-01-28T21:47:46Z")
I would just go with IH with it for a while to deepen connections and meaningful conversation. The mix is working well for you and you dont want to add to much to fast. More is not always better with mones. With MX’s I rarely use more then 2 or 3 at a time. It ends up being to many signals and clouds results. > [@](#): > > you know, i think Tisha might have posted something similar but i cant be sure. No not with P86, I find its alot like anol but more mellow and laid back for me. Happy pleasent but it does feel more masculine for some reason. Sort of in a comforting and safe way. I get very little response from others with it though. I need to work more with it. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![kismet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc8723/32.png) [@kismet](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kismet)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 3:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-nurturing-combos/25441/10 "2009-01-29T03:52:33Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > the personality that just _goes for it_ in that amount of time as a rule isnt looking for long term Heh. Maybe I’m a total slut, but most of my serious long term relationships (including w/ my ex-husband, and a couple of others that almost ended in marriage but we couldn’t quite sort out the logistics) started with sex on the 3rd date. Anyhoozle. I have some I/O, MX-135 and the P86…maybe I’ll just tinker around with adding those in wee doses and not fork out for EST just yet 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kismet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc8723/32.png) [@kismet](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kismet)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 3:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-nurturing-combos/25441/11 "2009-01-29T03:59:22Z")
Also, Tisha, re: using too many pheros, I have to say…since I got MX-274, all my other little blue bottles have been sadly neglected. It makes for less interesting reports around here, but I feel like since I started wearing MX-274 I’ve had nothing but good luck. ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 11:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-nurturing-combos/25441/12 "2009-01-29T11:40:33Z")
OMG…I’ve got such itchy fingers right now…I sooo want to go and place another order 🙄 I have had my eye on the Mx274 for a while now, and the more I read about it, then more I want it!!! I HAVE to have it 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SCoupe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scoupe/32/2101_2.png) [@SCoupe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SCoupe)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 1:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-nurturing-combos/25441/13 "2009-01-29T13:48:38Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > im with ariadne, 100% . > > im not sure many guys are thinking of settling when they dont have to wait for hot sex. > definately a plus that the hotsex is there, though. Yes we do . ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 1:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-nurturing-combos/25441/14 "2009-01-29T13:54:51Z")
> [@SCoupe](#): > > Yes we do . i mean as a rule. your the exception from what i have seen in my work. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 3:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-nurturing-combos/25441/15 "2009-01-29T15:14:36Z")
> [@kismet](#): > > Heh. Maybe I’m a total slut, but most of my serious long term relationships (including w/ my ex-husband, and a couple of others that almost ended in marriage but we couldn’t quite sort out the logistics) started with sex on the 3rd date. > > Anyhoozle. I have some I/O, MX-135 and the P86…maybe I’ll just tinker around with adding those in wee doses and not fork out for EST just yet 🙂 starting sex on the third date _only_ means you have recognized great chemistry and then acted on it 🙂 when i say as a rule people who act on it this soon arent looking for a relationship, i mean the ones that dont have sex on the third date may recognize chemistry but purposely hold back because _they are already thinking ahead in terms of a relationship_. _total sluts_ are too busy to post 😃 read up on the TAH in MX135 TAH is the falling in love molecule 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-nurturing-combos/25441/16 "2009-01-29T15:17:20Z")
> [@Xiphoid](#): > > OMG…I’ve got such itchy fingers right now…I sooo want to go and place another order 🙄 I have had my eye on the Mx274 for a while now, and the more I read about it, then more I want it!!! I HAVE to have it 😃 i couldnt stand waiting and i ordered it. its pretty much everything everyone has said so far… i love it for a social mix. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 6:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-nurturing-combos/25441/17 "2009-02-01T06:59:42Z")
> [@kismet](#): > > Is it just me, or does EST cost as much as my left arm? Believe me, Est is worth every penny and more. This is the one pheromone I don’t ever want to be without again. Definitely Est + beta androstenol or [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). Diane ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 10:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relationship-nurturing-combos/25441/18 "2009-02-01T22:08:08Z")
- > [@](#): > > Is it just me, or does [EST](https://phera.com/) cost as much as my left arm? - You can get EST elsewhere for a little bit less than the “reporting users” price ($147 for 30mL of 100mcg) here at A.P.R., but I would have a lot less confidence in the quality of what you’re really getting. I’ve bought elsewhere and haven’t had any real problems though I am not convinced the concentration/spray was exactly accurate. Now that it is back in stock here, I’d get it here if possible.