I’m not sure your response makes sense… I may just be sleep deprived at the moment, but I don’t understand why you seem to be taking offense at what I said.
Maybe it’s because I didn’t get to try your mix!!! 
No, Catlord, I didn’t take offense at what you said, it was MY way of saying that NONE is the sexual mone, and I don’t THINK there will ever be a mone to take its place. Like, Tacitus, I say it is the ultimate as for sexual is concern; but like Signor Harris said, the other mones can be sexual … meaning, if you’re enjoying yourself and she’s enjoying herself (the Instant Lines), tht good time can be lead to sexual stuffin.
I reserved all rights to be wrong; but no my favorite Mad Scientist, no offense taken. 
Distinguish between social, sensual, and sexual
you can kind of move through the spectrum from social to a place where there are sensuous possibilites and further on to the boiling sexual… maybe its an American cultural thing, we’re not too clear about how to handle the sensual middle ground… I think a lot of other cultures have figured out how to hang out for extended periods in sensual places without feeling compelled to get sexual… and frankly, there are a lot, a whoppin’ lot of sexy women I don’t want to go to extremes with just because I don’t want to get mixed up in their lives too deep, but might like to hang out around in a more light way… age differences could be too great, or you know that it would be difficult some other way, but you can still have a level of sensuality with them, you can taste many things you don’t automatically want to devour.
I don’t disagree that androstenone is a very sexual mone, but I do believe it is not the end-all, be-all. I currently believe, based on my experiences, that androstenone by itself is the equivalent of a cave man clubbing a woman over the head, whereas a well crafted mix is like a paragraph that a woman can read about you without ever realizing it. In my case, the androstenone doesn’t do what I want, and the Seduction mix seems to. It makes sense to me that copulins would be at least as sexual as androstenone, even though technically speaking, it’s not a pheromone at all - because it comes directly from the sex organs of a woman.
It also makes sense to me that, like androstenone, copulins - and even copulins based mixes - are not the end all, be all. Copulins seem to repel some people just as effectively as does androstenone.
My current point of view is that if you craft a mix that has all the right “notes”, you can trigger exactly the response you want in in the right people. Not everyone, not even most people. As they say… there’s more than one way to skin a cat. Copulins based mixes are showing themselves very effective among women who are at least bi-curious, for me. Heterosexual women tend to shy away if they’re involved; some young women and some “biological ticking clock” heterosexual women respond well, too. But I don’t think we’ll ever have a one size fits all mone or even mix.
M&M I think it will be very hard to beat Androstenone as something which makes sex more animalistic and passionate. That, and making people attentive and respectful/fearful of the -None wearer, are about the only things that it manages to consistenly do.
However I am sure the -None signal in every day life is far from sexual for a lot of people. It is a signal of ‘dominance’ or ‘dominance by force’ as MHarris once said. Some people are attracted to that and some are not. Some find it very sexual, no question. But I am sure that we will have something or have a combination of things which increases sexual arousal without scaring off a lot of people which seems to happen regularly when some people wear -None (like me for example 
).
Visionary
Androstenone “says” something that is very crude. It reminds me of a cave man clubbing a woman and dragging her home. It’s a dominance by force that can actually turn a lot of women off simply because it is so crude.
AA314, on the other hand, is refined, smooth, elegant and classy. I find that those women who are turned off specifically because androstenone is crude, respond beautifully to AA314.
Has anyone tried -None with P79?
From Rob’s and other posters’ posts, P79 sounds like it increases desire to actually **do **something. I wonder how that would combine with -None and how that would compare with NPA/m which seems to make people actually do something about their response to -None, whether it be by increased aggression or increased sexual arousal.
Visionary
None + P79
Yes, tried this, although civilized with a large helping of alpha-nol… funny thing about -none when it is tamed with alpha-nol… all the aggression goes away but the sexualation stays very much intact… with P79 this is increased even more… lovely young creature wanted me to sodomize her…
Hmmm… sodomy aside, looks like I need TUTH, IO, p79 and A314. Check.
Fix my car, buy mones? Dental work, buy mones? Visit the distractant who is now living seven hours away, buy mones? Dammit, Michael, why are you doing this to me?! lol
heh.. just had dental work done today on a routine cleaning. All the women there are HOT =) I used a couple drops of A314 and a few sprays P79 to sexualize and give it that “lets do it” vibe as thats what it seems to do. The hygenist was a good looking short asian woman (probably could be my mom) but she looked great nonetheless, and so I’ll be seeing her again shortly. The rest of the female dental staff that was free kept on looking for excuses to stop by and hang out around the room and later on afterwards during break (I am doing a yearly full physical health assessment). Etc. I need to take up some medical profession… there are alot of honeys
You have got to tell us the dosage, carrier, concentrations, all the works etc…
I’ve been looking for something like this for a loooong… time 
Wasn’t too complicated…
a mix of strong -none, way strong, mellowed with a three or four drops of 2 mg/ml -rone (leaving an open question of how alpha-rone and beta-rone might differ in this regard… one nuance I haven’t delved into, 4-5 drops of 2 mg/ml alpha nol, one 100 mu squirt of P79… and maybe one 100 mu squirt of P74, but I’m not sure about that one…
Some real important contextual tricks this ol’ dog has picked up on the way… lighting matters more that we folks give it credit for… I experiment with lights as much as with mones… white light or greenish fluorescent wattsavers just suck the wazoo for erotic purposes… just destroy the mood right off the bat… so you must have the light quite low, there is an ideal brightness, not quite candlelight dim, enough to see what you’re doing, but no brighter than that… so i experimented with every form of colored light bulb from black light purple to the deepest cherry red, and I consistently get the best results with a 25 watt clear (as in unfrosted) orange bulb with a lampshade… now why is that… almost certainly the hypothalamus is receiving light information, and it is rumored that certain reddish frequencies trigger endocrine activity… which explains why “mind machines” with the blinking goggles have different results with red versus yellow verus green versus blue LED lights… anyway… experience over time has shown that pure red is too much of something, almost distracting in its redness, a little unnatural, where orange makes the skin look very healthy, and yellow, forget yellow, you look like a martian in yellow light… so as I narrowed down to orange and tried it here and there I noticed that the right combination of pheromones at the right level of illumination, at the right wavelentghts of illumination, was producing particularly satisfying, organic, animalistic sex without having the negative effects of going out and drinking alcohol, which IMHO really brings down the whole quality level, fucking drunk is just not where its at… not at all…
Hey Tacitus I’m curious about Red vs Orange. I know you gave a brief on red, but I like to use regular red light bulbs and a black light bolt in my room alot as a main light source. Even though Red is distracting, what other qualities do you think it gives in comparison to orange as well as levels of intensities? I have only Reds… and the store sells blues but I’ve seen no oranges around.
My thoughts exact-cal-ly, Signor! You just put it into better words.
That’s why I’m still waiting around this town. And the full recipes, as well! 
Missssster Tacitus, I so enjoy the outcome of your Mad Mixing … you really should start your own journal, and make an effort to write exactly what you do daily, tease!
Was that a few sprays of the the 100 mcg P79, Rob?
Annnnd … where did you apply your sprays? Clothes or skin?
Thanks!
I think this is a matter of experimentation of time… it could be that deep red or deep violet, while beautiful, are so far out on the ends of the visible spectrum that the brain has an extra workload trying, in vain, to normalize its color perception… the closer you are to normal visual experience, the core parts of the brain relax as they don’t have to try and make sense of the “data” … the colors that seem to be the most stably erotic are those that you would see at a beautiful sunset, which has always had emotional, romantic, and erotic overtones… even the light of a wood fire is more orange than red… you can throw fire coloring minerals, such as strontium salts, onto a wood fire and it will burn with a strange cherry red color that is interesting but somehow off key too… real fires burn with orange light… so I expect this connects with many instinctive layers in us… you could tinker with this and mix a red light with and orange light and maybe find an optimal red-orange … black light bulbs and tubes can be used most effectively if they are used as a contrastive backdrop to a red-orange light source, as the redness will look all that much more red in comparison… the basic nut of it is that well thought out lighting is incredible sexy and will make you erotic experiences a lot more satisfying… so think this through… you should have one good clear light for getting in and out of your clothes with a handy switch, this is your before and after lighting, and then you should have your low level sex lights all ready to go, and if you’re really sharp you’ll have one extra transitional light on a dimmer, for this I actually prefer a good blue light which has a kind of etherial, skylight note to it… so you come in, put your stuff away, click off the bright white light, leaving the dimmable blue light with the low sex light in the background, play around a little bit, move over to the bed, then dim the blue light off… this makes a really nice, smooth transition to the low orange sex light… sort of gently massages the mind to what is coming next… then after, as you come out of the after sex buzz, you gently transition into the cooler blue energy, the eyes and the mind adjusts, before you flip on the bright whites… here’s the big secret of good sex at all levels of the game… it is about elegant transitions between states, and the master players take advantage of this by making those transitions as interesting and fun as possible… like her brain is going, on some primordial brain level… this is so wonderful to make these experiential changes… sex and seduction IS the art of the transition…
Awesome =) looks like I’ll have to find a good lighting setup for my room now. I’ve been experimenting with different colors for awhile, though more for my own personal moods. The closest thing I have to orange light are my lavalamps.
I think the orange light idea is a real great idea.. but the question is is what sort of lamps do you use to project your light? Lately I’ve switched to using those torchlamps.. you know the type with the upside down saucer that beams the light towards the ceiling, because it seems to kind of make the room glow. It’d be interesting to hear what sort of lighting system you use.
LOL… the king of light fixtures here !
I’ve been through so many light fixtures, bulbs, etc… I forget half of them… a simple lamp with a cloth shade on the nightstand by the bad with a 15 watt clear orange is simple and effective. You might try a red bulb on one side of the bed and an orange on the other so you get some nice color overlaps… you don’t want to achieve the lighting showroom look though, it should seem natually decorated… overhead lights in the center of the room are usually ugly and to be avoided… another idea that might be really nice would be a 75 watt blacklight bulb on one side and an orange on the other… there are so many choices, like you could get a GE 150 dichroic reflector bulb that uses metal film technology to produce ultrapure color, they make a blue dicro that is so much deeper blue than any paint or stain coated bulb and aim this up at the ceiling from above eye level so yo do get the glare from the bulb and put this on a slide dimmer by the bed… you might have to find a good fixture to hold this like a floorlamp that is designed to handle higher wattage… but dichro colors come in yellow, blue, red, and green and they are on a whole different level… blacklight tubes like a 22 watt 2 foot tube is nice but the UV from the tube causes the humor in your eyeball to fluoresce and can create a strange optical buzz… I think now, I’d put two UV blacklight bulbs on a dresser , table or something on a wall opposite the bed with an orange globe light with a really soft bulb light 5 watt in that, so you’d have an orange ball floating in a violet field, make that your purple backdrop, well, they’re expensive, there are some nice black paper lampshades lined with gold leaf that throw off the most suptuous luxe golden color… the thing is you want zones or rich color distributed around the room without glare or hotspots… it should be like walking into an erotic psychedelic love cloud of delicious body-mind sensations that can shift with your moods… oh yeah… don’t use dimmers on your intimate
sex lighting because dimmers produce this noxious singing tone in the filaments.. only use a dimmer on a light you plan on turning completely off… you need to also pay good attention to the acoustics and soundfields so you create imaginary travel to distant lands…
what happens when you translate that into russian, then to franch
and back to english ? :
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That was fun… let’s try this one
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