# Replacing AndrosteNone with regard to Attraction, Phase Shifting, and Lust Enhancing **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 27, 2008, 3:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/replacing-androstenone-with-regard-to-attraction-phase-shifting-and-lust-enhancing/8664 "2008-01-27T03:35:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 3
**Author:** ![TRDE59](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/trde59/32/412_2.png) [@TRDE59](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TRDE59)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2008, 5:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/replacing-androstenone-with-regard-to-attraction-phase-shifting-and-lust-enhancing/8664/3 "2008-01-27T05:14:41Z")
P83 seems to be a very effective [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) in the comfort/seduction phases. It’s especially effective the more kino (touching) there is. Usually in the “opening/attraction” phase, there isn’t as much touching, so it’s not as effective (unless you’re at a dance club and/or around a lot of drunk people). P83 is sort of a passive -none. I don’t mean it makes you appear passive, but I mean it doesn’t attract the attention that -none does (at least in my experience). -None will cause arousal in many women out of thin air(but it’s your job to convince her that you’re the cause of it), hence it is “active.” P83 will not, hence it’s “passivity”, but it will enhance these feelings if there’s even a sliver of them there, often to a level greater than that of -none. And it’s effects are multiplied if there’s touching involved. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/replacing-androstenone-with-regard-to-attraction-phase-shifting-and-lust-enhancing/8664)._