# Report + 2nd order = advice please!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/report-2nd-order-advice-please/18277>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [August 26, 2008, 2:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/report-2nd-order-advice-please/18277 "2008-08-26T14:13:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![El\_Supremo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/43a26b/32.png) [@El\_Supremo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/El_Supremo)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 2:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/report-2nd-order-advice-please/18277/1 "2008-08-26T14:13:18Z")

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Hi,

A few weeks back I made my first order of pheros (I got togo bottles of ammo, instant openess and a freebie of spaceland [which I havn’t tried yet but thanks all the same Amy!]).

I’ve worn them a few times (usually 1 spray of each) whilst out and about namely clubs, ice skating and when my recent trip to Paris. The most notable possible success occurred when I took an old female friend (we’re both 21) from university ice skating - she was much more chatty than usual and I just couldn’t shut her up! I’m guessing instant openess had something to do with it. Whilst in Paris I had quite a few looks from girls etc also.

However, I cannot definitively say that these encounters etc were down to the pheros. I thought they would have been but everytime I wear them out in the club/bars I don’t get any more attention than usual (I expected the pheros to work best in this sexually charged atmosphere).

Therefore, the question I have is this: am I using these products correctly (I use 1x spray of ammo to the front of the neck and 1x spray of instant openess to the back of the head)? Should I use other pheros such as turn up the heat when clubbing (I’ve heard great things about it!)?

Any help or guidance would be extremely appreciated!

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**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 4:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/report-2nd-order-advice-please/18277/2 "2008-08-27T04:29:26Z")

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Io will gives you more conversation (since it main purpose of this is to make people talk a lot more), so no doubt it influenced your female friend to talk more than usual.

You should try 2 sprays of ammo by itself and see if you have more results. Then do the same with io.

Wait a little bit longer before trying out turn up the heat, since ammo and io results should be easier to notice usually 🙂

Good luck!