# \[Research\] Vagina lovers: Who can best describe the aroma at it's most attractive?

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [November 22, 2008, 3:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/research-vagina-lovers-who-can-best-describe-the-aroma-at-its-most-attractive/23156 "2008-11-22T03:36:39Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 10:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/research-vagina-lovers-who-can-best-describe-the-aroma-at-its-most-attractive/23156/21 "2008-11-24T10:15:44Z")

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Several years ago, I went to a Malay restaurant in London and had a dish called pulut durian, a sort of porridge made with the infamous Durian fruit. The chef also brought out a small piece of the ripe fruit. It smells like vomit soaked dirty socks but to me the flavour (not taste) was the closest I can get to how several of the ladies I enjoyed in the past smelt.

Fresh sweat, touch of vanilla with orange blossom honey.

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**Author:** ![bluegreenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b77776/32.png) [@bluegreenblue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bluegreenblue)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 12:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/research-vagina-lovers-who-can-best-describe-the-aroma-at-its-most-attractive/23156/22 "2008-11-24T12:01:46Z")

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Plastic wrappers from CDs

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**Author:** ![chadwick](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chadwick/32/2129_2.png) [@chadwick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chadwick)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 8:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/research-vagina-lovers-who-can-best-describe-the-aroma-at-its-most-attractive/23156/23 "2008-11-24T20:07:48Z")

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you ever smell a roast beef sandwich, while having a really stuffed up nose, due to a cold.  
or  
imagine a peach cobbler pie mushed into a velvet pillow  
or  
just watch an 80’s porn.. their pube maintenance was lacking,  
they had the phero bush power

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**Author:** ![ladynerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8dc957/32.png) [@ladynerd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ladynerd)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 1:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/research-vagina-lovers-who-can-best-describe-the-aroma-at-its-most-attractive/23156/24 "2008-11-25T01:21:46Z")

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It’s all about the microflora

As both a woman and a vagina lover, I have some thoughts on this subject.

I think it is telling that so many people make analogies to wine, vinegar, and damp beach towels (on the good side) and cheese, rot, old fish, etc. (on the bad side). What do all of these things have in common? They are all fermented. That is, all of these things have smells created by bacteria and yeasts. Like the smell of sweat, the detectable odor of a vagina is created by the mini ecosystem of invisible creatures that live there.

Because nasty things like infections and diseases are caused by bacteria and yeasts, the very idea of that stuff has kind of a bad rap. However, there are many healthy and beneficial bacteria and yeasts that live in our bodies (and our vaginas). It seems very likely to me that the smells produced by those bacteria and yeasts–which vary from person to person–would play a strong role in attracting a mate.

Vaginal bacteria has a strong connection to overall bacteria in your body (especially the digestive tract) and many schools of medicine believe that a healthy digestive system is the foundation of immunity and good health. So I think it would make a lot of sense from an evolutionary fitness standpoint for the most attractive women to be the ones with the best-smelling vaginal bacteria (and hence the strongest immune systems, best genes, etc). It also explains one reason why women have pubic hair: to grow more of that attractive bacteria and diffuse its smell. (I think at least one guy on this thread said that a woman he was with shaved her pubes and had a disappointing lack of scent.)

I’m not too familiar with the problems surrounding copulin products. The issue is that synthetic copulins aren’t convincing enough? I wonder how much better they would work if the [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) was delivered through an authentic vaginal bacteria smell.

If I had to make the perfect copulin mix, I don’t think I would try to assemble the smell by adding an acid note, a salty note, a honey note, an oceanic note, etc. I think I would culture the bacteria and yeast from some healthy ovulating vaginas, then try to isolate the smell of that stuff. OR MAYBE! I would even try putting some real live bacteria and yeasts into a product. Our noses are very sensitive, it might need to be the real deal and not just a similar smell. If you did create a product that was literally alive with that bacteria/yeast, I would experiment with making it an oil or gel, and maybe add some sugars into the mix to keep the bacteria/yeast alive and active.

OK that’s my crazy idea for the day!

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**Author:** ![UKClubber](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ukclubber/32/920_2.png) [@UKClubber](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/UKClubber)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 7:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/research-vagina-lovers-who-can-best-describe-the-aroma-at-its-most-attractive/23156/25 "2008-11-25T19:13:12Z")

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I was redirected to this thread by bella from here [Question on menstrual cycle](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-on-menstrual-cycle/23234)

I dont know if this will help but what i smell in the best way i can describe it is:

A very deep slightly vanilla but very rich. For some reason when i think of it i think of deep purple/red it also makes me excited and smiley when trying to remember it lol(probly the couplins). Its really hard to explain as i cant link it to anything else which is why i have decsribed it with colours etc not smells. Its not completley sweet more like a very weak vinegar i suppose but with vanilla and something very rich but i cant think of anything right now.

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**Author:** ![Hazard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hazard/32/1153_2.png) [@Hazard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hazard)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 12:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/research-vagina-lovers-who-can-best-describe-the-aroma-at-its-most-attractive/23156/26 "2008-11-26T00:29:17Z")

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There is definately an acidic note in there… i think copper helps to describe it a tad…

I would have to say it’s damp… whatever smell you create… it needs to smell damp. Go get a paper towel… soak it in HOT water… then squeeze the water out. Take a big wiff… now think about the dampness and not the “wet paper” smell… that what you need to “feel” with the product… smell wise… for rite now… i think an acidic blood/copper smell best describes it - as long as you can create that “dampness” to go along with it…

i’ll report back whenever the wife lets me get a closer smell LOL

~Haz~

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**Author:** ![Hazard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hazard/32/1153_2.png) [@Hazard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hazard)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 12:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/research-vagina-lovers-who-can-best-describe-the-aroma-at-its-most-attractive/23156/27 "2008-11-26T00:31:56Z")

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MAYBE a hint of rose in there too…

I’m going to have to buy some copper… squirt some vinegar and blood on it and see how that smells LOL

come to think of it… blood can smell a bit like copper… so maybe an acidic blood smell with a hint of rose?

~Haz~

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 1:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/research-vagina-lovers-who-can-best-describe-the-aroma-at-its-most-attractive/23156/28 "2008-11-26T13:12:32Z")

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I love to enjoy my girlfriend in a lingual and olfactory way, so I have some experience here.

First off, I tend to smell her [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) more than anything else. I know this because I can feel interesting things happening in my brainal cavity. It feels similar to the effects of IS (TAA) except that instead of just being in my brain, when she matches me genetically, I feel it in my stomach/loins as well.

Every woman smells different, and every woman smells different from day to day. I have only really smelled four whom I really responded positively to. What did they all have in common?

They all had a light scent.

They all had to varying degrees a somewhat faint scent of fish sauce. Definitely a scent on the border of stink, but yet somehow I responded, and even had a hard time getting enough.

It’s a sort of cross between fish, stink, sweet and foxy. The scent of what I call “foxfire” is faintly similar… and that has heavy pine resin notes to it.

The woman who had the best scent I ever encountered was able to literally get me high on it. I’d be stuck with my face in it, revving up my engine like it was in neutral, yet somehow unable to disengage my tongue. She had no fish scent. Hers was more like a very minute undertone of fish with mostly the light scent of androstenol and ocean.

I think really to be honest, it’s not the smell, it’s the pheromones. I can only describe it as being a scent that reaches into my deep brain and says, “Ripe, ready female. Breed this.” The effect is strongly reminiscent in parts of three particular things:

1. The way TAA makes my brain feel.
2. The way Alpha Androstenol makes my mind feel.
3. The way EOW in very minute doses makes my “masculine response” respond.

Hope this helps. 🙂

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**Author:** ![traderneil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eb9ed0/32.png) [@traderneil](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/traderneil)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 11:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/research-vagina-lovers-who-can-best-describe-the-aroma-at-its-most-attractive/23156/29 "2008-11-26T23:56:10Z")

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11/26/08 HAPPY THANKSGIVING FROM SIN CITY

HI: Folks:

HOW THE SCENT OF A WOMAN AFFECTS ME:

ANIMATE,AROUSE,FIRE,INFLAME,INSPIRE,INTOXICATE,ROUSE,  
STIMULATE,THRILL,TITILLATE,TURN ON,PROVOKE & STIR UP.

I have found that some ladies exhilarate their own type of Sexual Musk.It is not just a scent but rather an image that they project. For example think of Tina Turner, Diana Ross, Pam Greer. True they are celebrities,but thats not what I mean..I have met many ladies with that kind of sexual presentation they are happy and comfortable with their sensuality.I get excited just seeing them. I must talk to them,touch them,and hug them,kiss them, and Im never disappointed.

When I think of these ladies I don’t smell them but I do see their Aura of Sexual Musk…and it does excite me to think of how wonderful it would be to sleep with them…I Visualize them.

I don’t think we could create a scent that could duplicate a living female  
scent. When I meet and kiss ladies at the gym they say" O I am all Sweaty" and I say so what,thats when its at its best. (Thats how it is when your done in bed)

I think the only thing that really matters is personal hygene. If a woman gives off a clean fresh scent then everything goes…

Summary: Sexual Musk& Clean and Fresh Scent = A Happy Traderneil 😃😃😃

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 2:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/research-vagina-lovers-who-can-best-describe-the-aroma-at-its-most-attractive/23156/30 "2008-11-27T14:31:15Z")

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> [@bluegreenblue](#):
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> Plastic wrappers from CDs

Okay, I’m still trying to figure this one out. I sniffed the wrapper from a new CD yesterday and smelled nothing, much less anything reminiscent of the feminine.

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/research-vagina-lovers-who-can-best-describe-the-aroma-at-its-most-attractive/23156/31 "2008-11-27T20:21:24Z")

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To me, it smells like sweet ass sweat- like the one between the cheeks.

I wonder if the sweat produced there has any significance.

It could be because it’s so close to the vagina, but I found out that this may not be the case.

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**Author:** ![teb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc29f/32.png) [@teb](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/teb)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2008, 1:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/research-vagina-lovers-who-can-best-describe-the-aroma-at-its-most-attractive/23156/32 "2008-11-29T13:44:59Z")

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cumin the seasoning.

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**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2008, 8:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/research-vagina-lovers-who-can-best-describe-the-aroma-at-its-most-attractive/23156/33 "2008-12-02T08:23:15Z")

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Okay, so I’ve been thinking long and hard about this since you first posted. Here is my final (middle-aged, female-nose) analysis:

Take a drop of EoW, spread it on a girl’s skin. Let it dry and then wait 45 minutes. Take a good long whiff… Hell, you are a guy! Take two!

What you will smell is a light, fruity, slightly sweet, slightly acidic, very mildly musky, slightly salty (reminiscent of the sea after a storm), irresistible scent. _That_, my friend, is what a clean, healthy, fertile vagina smells like. 😃

If you only wait a short time, say 20 minutes, it still has a Parmesan cheese scent to it, so wait enough time for that to dissipate.

If you also add a bit of puppy breath scent (can you get or make that?), and just a slight hint of copper to that, you will get what a clean, healthy, fertile, _bred_ vagina smells like. 😃😮😃

Oh, btw, I’m suggesting you put it on a girl to test because who knows what those natural funky boy pheromones would do to the smell of this? 😃😛😃

Diane

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**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2008, 10:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/research-vagina-lovers-who-can-best-describe-the-aroma-at-its-most-attractive/23156/34 "2008-12-02T10:26:48Z")

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I’d also like to add something about tone. Even though all the elements are light, this is what I would consider a very complex package of scents. To me, EOW, after sufficient dry down time smells just like girl. But, the caveat is that I haven’t spent a ton of time with my nose that close to anyone’s vagina, so what follows is strictly about the cops provided in EOW.

Guys with good sniffers, or ladies with that penchant will have to verify if this is also true about the scent of a vagina that is in close proximity for a sufficient length of time. 😉😛😃

If you place your nose right over very well dried down EOW, and leave it there while you breathe normally, what you will notice is that each of the elements dance in and out of perception. I don’t know if that is because of olfatory loading or if these molecules are really that light. But you don’t get the full appreciation of the full complexity of the scent unless you wait for it. And I think that is one of the reasons this scent begs for deep breaths, and lots of them.

So, try it… 🙂… and you’ll see what I mean.

Diane

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 5:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/research-vagina-lovers-who-can-best-describe-the-aroma-at-its-most-attractive/23156/35 "2008-12-04T17:45:05Z")

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It occurs to me that this thread borders on laughably pointless, because copulins (healthy ovulating female) is going to smell different to each sex, and every member of that sex. Although I must say it is very interesting.

For instance, LAM smells like rotting palmetto to me… anyone agree? I doubt it.  
Neither EOW, diluted nor straight, wet nor dry, nor LAM smells nothing like any woman I have ever been with. EOW seems to come closest to that “almost stink” that seems to get me going, though.

I have done experiments recently with these two. I put a drop of LAM in my mustache and beard before going to bed, theory being that if I wake up aroused, it works. I did the same thing with (a significantly smaller amount of) EOW.

LAM: 0, EOW: 1 Maybe LAM doesn’t last as long as I have had my bottle.

Nobody else has said anything about this feral “almost stink” that I talk about… It’s a raw, animalistic, nasty and purely sexual scent. Not nasty as in “Ewwww, nasty! Yucky!” but nasty as in a feral “I’m in raw heat, I need it NOW… See this? This is where it goes! Come here and f\*\*\* me RIGHT NOW, you \*%^&$#!” In other words, a scent that instantly awakens and arouses the Inner Animal to act on it’s primal purpose.

I don’t know if nobody else mentions this because they don’t want to offend anyone (and certainly no offense is intended, that’s just how it registers on my brain) or because they don’t perceive it that way. I suspect that the reports we have been getting may be more describing non-ovulating ladies… or showing that everyone experiences these pheromones so differently that trying to describe them in some common fashion is futile.

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**Author:** ![Hazard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hazard/32/1153_2.png) [@Hazard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hazard)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 10:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/research-vagina-lovers-who-can-best-describe-the-aroma-at-its-most-attractive/23156/36 "2008-12-04T22:58:57Z")

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I still havn’t had a chance for an upclose smell since my posting so im useless right now LOL… Any of the ladies willing to (temporarily) donate their bodies to science? I wont touch… i promise 🙂

I’ll get back to this thread once i get a fresher wiff in my mind…

~Haz~

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/research-vagina-lovers-who-can-best-describe-the-aroma-at-its-most-attractive/23156/37 "2008-12-04T23:17:41Z")

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Guy in college did this and I’ll remember it until the day I die.

Take a bag of blackeyed peas, boil them for 20 minutes. Drain them, but keep the water. Don’t care what you do with the beans (but remember there are starving children all over the world)… But you must keep the water.

After the water you boiled cools down, Take a single long stem rose and dip it in the water for about 30 to 45 seconds. Take it out and smell the rose. Perfect vagina every time.  
We repeated this a few times, some with different procedures.

You want a woman on her period vagina?  
Take a product called Copper Anti-Sieze (any hardware or auto shop) and dab some on the base of the rose. Smell the top. Bloody Mary.

You want a sweaty just got home from the gym vagina?  
Salt the water before you boil. Sweaty Sally.

We did this one night at a party, put the rose (original style) in front of my buddy’s face (he was hammered) and he actually started to tongue the rose!

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**Author:** ![Hazard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hazard/32/1153_2.png) [@Hazard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hazard)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/research-vagina-lovers-who-can-best-describe-the-aroma-at-its-most-attractive/23156/38 "2008-12-04T23:23:42Z")

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> [@lizard473](#):
>
> Guy in college did this and I’ll remember it until the day I die.
> 
> Take a bag of blackeyed peas, boil them for 20 minutes. Drain them, but keep the water. Don’t care what you do with the beans (but remember there are starving children all over the world)… But you must keep the water.
> 
> After the water you boiled cools down, Take a single long stem rose and dip it in the water for about 30 to 45 seconds. Take it out and smell the rose. Perfect vagina every time.  
> We repeated this a few times, some with different procedures.
> 
> You want a woman on her period vagina?  
> Take a product called Copper Anti-Sieze (any hardware or auto shop) and dab some on the base of the rose. Smell the top. Bloody Mary.
> 
> You want a sweaty just got home from the gym vagina?  
> Salt the water before you boil. Sweaty Sally.
> 
> We did this one night at a party, put the rose (original style) in front of my buddy’s face (he was hammered) and he actually started to tongue the rose!

OMG LOL - i mite have to try this and see if it works! finally something concrete to test out… and not too hard to do either

~Haz~

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**Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 12:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/research-vagina-lovers-who-can-best-describe-the-aroma-at-its-most-attractive/23156/39 "2008-12-05T00:59:08Z")

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> [@teb](#):
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> cumin the seasoning.

This is interesting to me because I recently ate a meal at a Vietnamese restaurant that apparently had lots of cumin in it (I HOPE 😕 ) hah. anyway, I actually could not eat it because the smell was so intense, it smelled like I was immersed head-first between a girls’ legs doing my thing… lol.

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**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 1:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/research-vagina-lovers-who-can-best-describe-the-aroma-at-its-most-attractive/23156/40 "2008-12-05T01:19:48Z")

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> [@douche](#):
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> This is interesting to me because I recently ate a meal at a Vietnamese restaurant that apparently had lots of cumin in it (I HOPE 😕 ) hah. anyway, I actually could not eat it because the smell was so intense, it smelled like I was immersed head-first between a girls’ legs doing my thing… lol.

I think the point about noses being different is valid. I have a bottle of ground cumin, just took a big whiff of it. It just smells like chili to me, not like girl funk at all. Personally, I hate the smell of cumin and I loathe chili, but my husband likes it. 😛

Diane

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