# Results from yesterday night

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/results-from-yesterday-night/24419>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [January 1, 2009, 11:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/results-from-yesterday-night/24419 "2009-01-01T11:42:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Gam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@Gam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gam)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 11:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/results-from-yesterday-night/24419/1 "2009-01-01T11:42:33Z")

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Ok, so i asked for a bit of help yesterday night - silvester. here is the thread:

> [@OK, Tonight I NEED to make out with a girl](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ok-tonight-i-need-to-make-out-with-a-girl/24407):
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> its been exactly one year sice i lasted kissed a girl frowning so, tonight i must make out with a girl hehe.i got these pehroes all in togo bottels: AMMO ISHINE IO TUTH IFM im 19 years old.. i would like to know how much to put on and where to put on. untill ow i havent seen any resualts with my pheroes open_mouth so i really need some help with my dosages. thanks for the help m8’s. ill report back with the results slight_smile

i also got a help from dss from his thread “[Pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) Suck!!!”.

ok, so untill yesterday i didnt see anything from pheromones, i really had to take a pheromone bath to see some results like i did yesterday, and i have to say, i did see some results!  
So i go into this dance bar, as I come in I go to the bar with 3 of my frinds, and we all take a beer, but untill the barman gave us the beer, there were a few girls sitting next to us at the bar, 2 diferent groops, on my right, this girl like a few inches away from me just was glancing at me a few times, and i could tell she was interested.. im not shure but this was really wird haha it was kind of nice having a girl look at me. now the on my left, a bit ferther away there was this other girl… guys, I have NEVER been looked at by a girl like this girl was looking at me, she gave this smile that ment “hay there cutey”. I kind of freeked out and i ignored here! I didnt know what to do.. so i need some help on that part still… haha.

anyway at the dance floor i didnt see anything special, i tried dancing with about 10-15 differnt girls, all rejected me, untill there was this one girl that i tried to dance with her, and i thought she didnt want to dace with me so i kind of gave up on her, then i sow her kind of dancing with this other guy, but she was looking at me every once and a while when i came near her, so after that when she was not dancing with him i kind of got closer and i put my hand out and she took it, i asked her what her name was and she asked for mine. but then I sow that she didnt really want to dance with me, it was really wird, maybe she was shy so i left her on purpuse, because i wanted her to feel like I have other options if she dosent want me. then we passed by each other a cople of times, she smilled at me, and then she came up to me at the dance floor and asked me if i wanted to dace… and then we started dancing, and it kind of took me a long time to kiss her because she always looked away from me and not strate into my eys, and when she did look at me she gave me this cute emberresed smile. but I did kiss her in the end, and she had to go so i got her number.

guys, you hae to understand that i didnt kiss a girl in a whole year!! this was really great! now i still dont understand how is it that so like i tryed to dance with like 20 girls and all of them rejected me, i mean, with out pheroes if you go and try 20 different girl eventually somone will want you.. you see i thought that pheroes will make it easier or at least more girls would answer to my flrting.

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**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/results-from-yesterday-night/24419/2 "2009-01-01T13:30:34Z")

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Would you let us in on what you’ve worn pherowise??

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**Author:** ![Gam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@Gam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gam)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/results-from-yesterday-night/24419/3 "2009-01-01T16:51:04Z")

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> [@bubblebob](#):
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> Would you let us in on what you’ve worn pherowise??

ofc! here:  
IFM - 2 on back of neck and 1 split on wrists cover with 2 sprays of IS  
IO - 3 sprays on my chest 1 on each side on one in the middle.  
rub with back of wrists.  
ISHINE - 2 more on my chest and half on my cheacks.  
[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) - one on my neck/chest and one on palse points.  
TUTH -half on my chest.

and during the evning i felt that i needed to put 2 more sprays of AMMO (one spray an hour).

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**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/results-from-yesterday-night/24419/4 "2009-01-01T17:48:11Z")

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Let me tell you one thing…you did awesome!!!

Why is that? You were rejected how many times? and kept going. Do you know how many guys would have stopped at the first or second rejection.

You just need to improve some of your gaming skills maybe Steve can help you out

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**Author:** ![Gam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@Gam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gam)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 6:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/results-from-yesterday-night/24419/5 "2009-01-01T18:52:24Z")

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> [@denec](#):
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> Let me tell you one thing…you did awesome!!!
> 
> Why is that? You were rejected how many times? and kept going. Do you know how many guys would have stopped at the first or second rejection.
> 
> You just need to improve some of your gaming skills maybe Steve can help you out

yeah i think i"ll give him a call.. so you think its my gaming skills and not the pheromones?

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/results-from-yesterday-night/24419/6 "2009-01-01T19:06:01Z")

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> [@Gam](#):
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> ofc! here:  
> IFM - 2 on back of neck and 1 split on wrists cover with 2 sprays of IS  
> IO - 3 sprays on my chest 1 on each side on one in the middle.  
> rub with back of wrists.  
> ISHINE - 2 more on my chest and half on my cheacks.  
> Ammo - one on my neck/chest and one on palse points.  
> TUTH -half on my chest.
> 
> and during the evning i felt that i needed to put 2 more sprays of AMMO (one spray an hour).

Nice work. 🙂 I usually get the best results from a mix like this one when I use at least 5 sprays of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). I’d suggest not going over 3 sprays of any combination of TUTH and Ammo, though. Try replacing IO with IH, too.

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**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 10:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/results-from-yesterday-night/24419/7 "2009-01-01T22:45:04Z")

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Hi their  
Like Denec has said glad you didn’t stop after the rejections and with pheromones! You will find what works alittle, add something, take something out till you get a combo that is giving you what you want from it. It takes some time don’t give up.

Catlord also said not to go over total 3 sprays of TUTH and Ammo. I am 30 and I found that 3 sprays works for younger girls 21-30 and when add 1 more the older ladies 30-40 are giving me hits.

I have made a mix that is working with great reponses from it, but like I said above it works great but I’m still playing with it. I added I-F-Magic to it and this time girls started to dance where I was and seemed to follow me if I moved away for more space. When I wear this mix the girls get very wild the TUTH and P83 and I think I need to tone the none down.

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**Author:** ![Shedding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Shedding](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Shedding)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 12:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/results-from-yesterday-night/24419/8 "2009-01-02T12:24:02Z")

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Not to be mean spirited. Here is information that took me a long time to collect.

1. Women (as well as young women) like a man who is confident. This usually occurs when you are sure of yourself. Unfortunately this doesn’t happen until you have plenty of experience with women. I would recommend to you to just talk to them and go with the flow of the current - Nothing bad will EVER happen just speaking to a woman.. They might just give you attitude, but that is just their defense mechanism working. Try to lower their shields by adding some quick comments to any denials they might throw at you.

2. The denials - The denials come in two forms. One, they tell you no.. I don’t want you (but you have to check their body language. You can usually tell when they say no.. but really do want to go out) and then there is the second one.. which means “NO.. GET THE F\*\*\* AWAY BEFORE I MACE YOU”. Learn this.

3. The more you learn, the better off you are. Learn about current events, about interesting tidbits of information anything you might be able to use in conversation and use it to your advantage. Here is what happened to me once - I was in a club and two women were drinking. I talked to one and flat out rejected me. I said “You haven’t even spoken to me.. how do you know what kind of guy am I” she said “I am not interested” , her friend said “She only likes smart guys” so I said “ok.. test me. Give me a question you think I might not be able to answer” she said “What is the equation PI”. I said “you mean pi the constant? It is not an equation. It is 3.1415” she said “no.. I want to know the meaning of pi” I then said “Are you sure you want me to explain this in a club? ok.. it means the amount of times the diameter fits into the circumference of the circle” she just stood there and her friend was laughing so hard she couldn’t stop. After that I had a great time at the club.  
It goes to show that knowing a few things help you out. You could just say in a conversation “Sure.. you know the heart beats around 72 beats per minute.. but right now, I feel it beating faster around you” anything to lessen the tension.

4. If it is not working out with the girl you spoke with.. leave it at that and take your loses.

5. Sorry about this one.. but also work on your spelling. It might not help you with women, but at 19, this is fairly important.

6. If the girl flat out looks at you and rejects you, you can always tell her “b\*tch, why are you being so picky. I wasn’t” and move on. And If you really want to insult her, just tell her “you are fat anyways” and even if she is not.. you will have left your mark with her for a long time to come even after she leaves the club.

Hope this helped just a slight bit.

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**Author:** ![Shedding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Shedding](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Shedding)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 12:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/results-from-yesterday-night/24419/9 "2009-01-02T12:26:13Z")

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it seems the forum replaced the constant p.i. with primal instinct hehe.

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**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 5:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/results-from-yesterday-night/24419/10 "2009-01-02T17:33:01Z")

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> [@Shedding](#):
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> it seems the forum replaced the constant p.i. with primal instinct hehe.

yeah i was thinking to myself “whoa he just turned a phero product into a familiar-sounding constant, that’s awesome!” haha

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/results-from-yesterday-night/24419/11 "2009-01-02T18:00:00Z")

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> [@Shedding](#):
>
> Not to be mean spirited. Here is information that took me a long time to collect.
> 
> 1. Women (as well as young women) like a man who is confident. This usually occurs when you are sure of yourself. Unfortunately this doesn’t happen until you have plenty of experience with women. I would recommend to you to just talk to them and go with the flow of the current - Nothing bad will EVER happen just speaking to a woman.. They might just give you attitude, but that is just their defense mechanism working. Try to lower their shields by adding some quick comments to any denials they might throw at you.
> 
> 2. The denials - The denials come in two forms. One, they tell you no.. I don’t want you (but you have to check their body language. You can usually tell when they say no.. but really do want to go out) and then there is the second one.. which means “NO.. GET THE F\*\*\* AWAY BEFORE I MACE YOU”. Learn this.
> 
> 3. The more you learn, the better off you are. Learn about current events, about interesting tidbits of information anything you might be able to use in conversation and use it to your advantage. Here is what happened to me once - I was in a club and two women were drinking. I talked to one and flat out rejected me. I said “You haven’t even spoken to me.. how do you know what kind of guy am I” she said “I am not interested” , her friend said “She only likes smart guys” so I said “ok.. test me. Give me a question you think I might not be able to answer” she said “What is the equation PI”. I said “you mean pi the constant? It is not an equation. It is 3.1415” she said “no.. I want to know the meaning of pi” I then said “Are you sure you want me to explain this in a club? ok.. it means the amount of times the diameter fits into the circumference of the circle” she just stood there and her friend was laughing so hard she couldn’t stop. After that I had a great time at the club.  
> It goes to show that knowing a few things help you out. You could just say in a conversation “Sure.. you know the heart beats around 72 beats per minute.. but right now, I feel it beating faster around you” anything to lessen the tension.
> 
> 4. If it is not working out with the girl you spoke with.. leave it at that and take your loses.
> 
> 5. Sorry about this one.. but also work on your spelling. It might not help you with women, but at 19, this is fairly important.
> 
> 6. If the girl flat out looks at you and rejects you, you can always tell her “b\*tch, why are you being so picky. I wasn’t” and move on. And If you really want to insult her, just tell her “you are fat anyways” and even if she is not.. you will have left your mark with her for a long time to come even after she leaves the club.
> 
> Hope this helped just a slight bit.

You know Shedding has a great post here. Women absolutely love a confident, passionate man who adds value.

How do you add value: Be driven for one. Leave everyone better off than when you started. Especially if they are mean-spirited (no I’m not talking about your post Shedding, or else I wouldn’t have rep you), leave them with a smile. It leaves them guessing and creates mad attraction.

If you really are still unsure how to add value, you need to do an internal audit of yourself. Seek at the truth inside and find your happiness. Try to do those things in life that you enjoy. Remember I am talking about your life here, so no need for babe or friend to know about any issues. That’s not valuable for them. Approach yourself with complete honesty. You’ll know when you are being honest with yourself, but by doing so it creates a contrast. A contrast within oneself sets up internal goals to strive for. When I said driven earlier, everything you do in life, and I mean everything should drive you towards those goals. If you are not heading in the direction of your goals you are only failing yourself.

Don’t sacrifice what you want in life later for the now. As far as any of us know the NOW is all we have. Live your life to the absolute fullest and drive those goals forward. The objective is not to live for the goals, but instead live in the now to lead your life forward towards those goals. Get up and do it man 😃

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 11:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/results-from-yesterday-night/24419/12 "2009-01-02T23:08:40Z")

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> [@Shedding](#):
>
> 1. The more you learn, the better off you are. Learn about current events, about interesting tidbits of information anything you might be able to use in conversation and use it to your advantage. Here is what happened to me once - I was in a club and two women were drinking. I talked to one and flat out rejected me. I said “You haven’t even spoken to me.. how do you know what kind of guy am I” she said “I am not interested” , her friend said “She only likes smart guys” so I said “ok.. test me. Give me a question you think I might not be able to answer” she said “What is the equation PI”. I said “you mean pi the constant? It is not an equation. It is 3.1415” she said “no.. I want to know the meaning of pi” I then said “Are you sure you want me to explain this in a club? ok.. it means the amount of times the diameter fits into the circumference of the circle” she just stood there and her friend was laughing so hard she couldn’t stop. After that I had a great time at the club.  
> It goes to show that knowing a few things help you out. You could just say in a conversation “Sure.. you know the heart beats around 72 beats per minute.. but right now, I feel it beating faster around you” anything to lessen the tension.
> 
> 2. Sorry about this one.. but also work on your spelling. It might not help you with women, but at 19, this is fairly important.
> 
> 3. If the girl flat out looks at you and rejects you, you can always tell her “b\*tch, why are you being so picky. I wasn’t” and move on. And If you really want to insult her, just tell her “you are fat anyways” and even if she is not.. you will have left your mark with her for a long time to come even after she leaves the club.

Lol at #4.

#5: Personally, I’d probably make some judgments about her based on stereotypes. Maybe somewhat negative ones. If she refutes them, then you can just respond, so how do you know me with out talking to me? Just like you did with those two girls in #3. I’m not really one to resort to telling girls they look fat. 😛 Also, saying I wasn’t being picky implies to me that I was ‘settling’. I wouldn’t want anyone to think I’m ‘settling’ for them, nor would I want people to think I’m willing to compromise myself for a girl or otherwise.

#3: Lol, for the longest, I was thinking..damn..what the hell is Primal Instinct in a mathematics?? That must be some really esoteric stuff. Then, in a terribly anti-climactic realization, it made sense she was talking about pi(e) 😛 Then my next thought was..she thought that was a question only smart people could answer? Hmmm…sounds like maybe she’s a little hypocritical about her standards. I’m sure she’s smart in other areas. 🙂

Either way, yea, that was a great ‘cut through the bullshit’ scenario. I remember I ran into a girl who I had met a couple years earlier. We both recognized each other and she challenged me, saying ‘I bet you don’t remember my name.’ I looked her straight in the eye and said her name. 😃

But yea, the more knowledge the better, no matter how general it might be. It might mean the difference between cracking a joke about feeling light headed after drinking because hydrogen is the lightest element, and going uhm..yeah I didn’t understand what you just said.

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**Author:** ![jankren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jankren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jankren)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 12:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/results-from-yesterday-night/24419/13 "2009-01-03T00:57:05Z")

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Phero is no magic potion. It only enhances you like good clothes or make up. So all you have to offer is phero then there wont be much change. You also need to look good and have good personality.
