# Returns: is it a dick move to return a to-go bottle of Instant Openness or iShine? **URL:** \ **Category:** Store Announcements & Feedback\ **Created:** [June 18, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/returns-is-it-a-dick-move-to-return-a-to-go-bottle-of-instant-openness-or-ishine/14078 "2008-06-18T19:32:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SiriusC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/siriusc/32/1764_2.png) [@SiriusC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SiriusC)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/returns-is-it-a-dick-move-to-return-a-to-go-bottle-of-instant-openness-or-ishine/14078/1 "2008-06-18T19:32:06Z")
Hey, would it be a dick move to return a to-go bottle of something that didn’t satisfy me? Specifically I’m talking about [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) & iShine. There were moments where I thought they _might have_ worked, but that could’ve been a placebo effect. But there were more moments where they just flat-out didn’t work. No one was more “open” with me & I still felt like a bum when using IShine. My other products were fine, though. I’m asking if it’s a dick move because I just ordered bottles of Instant Openness & IShine w/double strength. I WANT these things to work & the feedback is incredible so I wanna give it another shot. Everyone here is so nice & seems so keen on these products. I’m just not at all happy with my initial run. And it looks douchey if someone orders something for a 2x refund then orders the same thing again. ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 9:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/returns-is-it-a-dick-move-to-return-a-to-go-bottle-of-instant-openness-or-ishine/14078/2 "2008-06-18T21:17:30Z")
Why don’t you try something else? Maybe ih instead of io. Not sure about return a product then buying the exact same thing again 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 9:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/returns-is-it-a-dick-move-to-return-a-to-go-bottle-of-instant-openness-or-ishine/14078/3 "2008-06-18T21:38:43Z")
I am unsure what the rule is on that, I have never returned anything but it does seem strange to return a product and get the same thing at the same time. How much Instant Shine and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) did you use at once ? 2X is the same formula doubled. Just a few tips in case you do get it again. Instant Shine may be harder to grasp if you dont have self effects and hang around upbeat people. Generally people tell me they see it when they around someone who isnt a pleasant person and then they have there “Oh shit I see it” moment. After that its easy to pick up the subtle changes even in upbeat people. Ishine also makes people hover around you and invade your space. Instant Openness is fun and friendly, Some people will get really chatty but you have to be open to it or they will back off. Its just human nature. You need to be congruent with the mix. This section of the database should help some > **[Social Success Pheromone - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/)** > > A314 cologne is a powerful blend of 17 pheromones that enhance your confidence and gives you amazing social experiences you will never forget Tisha ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/returns-is-it-a-dick-move-to-return-a-to-go-bottle-of-instant-openness-or-ishine/14078/4 "2008-06-18T21:42:28Z")
Well for my opinion, You can go to Androtics support & submit a ticket about this to them but i still recommend you ask Lady Tisha AKA Tisha 23 about this. I’m sure she will check this thread soon enough. Ok this is a bit weird but her post come right after i post my post in your thread earlier & wait for it to be moderated 🙄 Check the post above me. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2008, 10:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/returns-is-it-a-dick-move-to-return-a-to-go-bottle-of-instant-openness-or-ishine/14078/5 "2008-06-18T22:21:21Z")
> [@SiriusC](#): > > And it looks douchey if someone orders something for a 2x refund then orders the same thing again. > [@tisha23](#): > > I am unsure what the rule is on that, I have never returned anything but it does seem strange to return a product and get the same thing at the same time. > > Tisha I believe he was asking about returning the product under the 200% money back guarantee, and saying that he has already ordered bottles at the 2X strength. Here is a link the the page in the store explaining how the 200% money back guarantee works and what needs to be done to qualify to receive double your money back: [Double Your Money Back Guarantee :: Androtics Direct/SmartMones](https://a314.com/) ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 4:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/returns-is-it-a-dick-move-to-return-a-to-go-bottle-of-instant-openness-or-ishine/14078/6 "2008-06-19T04:20:39Z")
> [@PhatSounds](#): > > Well for my opinion, You can go to Androtics support & submit a ticket about this to them but i still recommend you ask Lady Tisha AKA Tisha 23 about this. I’m sure she will check this thread soon enough. Ok this is a bit weird but her post come right after i post my post in your thread earlier & wait for it to be moderated 🙄 Check the post above me. Just so you are aware Tisha23 has nothing to do with the store. She is a hostess of the forum and as such does not make decisions about anything to do with returns. While I can appreciate your wanting to help, please make sure you are offering the right help 🙂. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 4:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/returns-is-it-a-dick-move-to-return-a-to-go-bottle-of-instant-openness-or-ishine/14078/7 "2008-06-19T04:24:07Z")
> [@SiriusC](#): > > Hey, would it be a dick move to return a to-go bottle of something that didn’t satisfy me? Specifically I’m talking about Instant Openness & Instant Shine. There were moments where I thought they _might have_ worked, but that could’ve been a placebo effect. But there were more moments where they just flat-out didn’t work. No one was more “open” with me & I still felt like a bum when using IShine. My other products were fine, though. > > I’m asking if it’s a dick move because I just ordered bottles of Instant Openness & IShine w/double strength. I WANT these things to work & the feedback is incredible so I wanna give it another shot. Everyone here is so nice & seems so keen on these products. I’m just not at all happy with my initial run. And it looks douchey if someone orders something for a 2x refund then orders the same thing again. The 200% refund needs to meet qualifications that can be found in the store. Returns are for those who are not satisfied with the items they bought. If you are not satisfied please submit a ticket to the support suite as linked in my signature. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 1:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/returns-is-it-a-dick-move-to-return-a-to-go-bottle-of-instant-openness-or-ishine/14078/8 "2008-06-19T13:15:05Z")
> [@SteveO](#): > > Just so you are aware Tisha23 has nothing to do with the store. She is a hostess of the forum and as such does not make decisions about anything to do with returns. While I can appreciate your wanting to help, please make sure you are offering the right help 🙂. Ok I will keep noted about this, my apologies there SteveO:o ---
**Author:** ![SiriusC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/siriusc/32/1764_2.png) [@SiriusC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SiriusC)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 5:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/returns-is-it-a-dick-move-to-return-a-to-go-bottle-of-instant-openness-or-ishine/14078/9 "2008-06-22T17:50:01Z")
Thanks for all the advice. I laughed at how retaded it is to want to get a refund on something then buy the same thing double dose. I count the first batch of what I bought as trial & error and we’ll see how these full bottles go. As always I’m optimistic!