# "Revealed: the aftershave that turns women on" - Guys, read this! **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [April 10, 2015, 8:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168 "2015-04-10T20:57:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Smellymen2002](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@Smellymen2002](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smellymen2002)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2015, 12:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/41 "2015-06-25T00:29:39Z")
> [@Jdub](#): > > I’m loving this Hedione. The scent is great and it makes my little sexy girl never want to leave my presence but not in a possessive way.. > > Also, I feel it gives me feelings if happiness and motivation. Did you get yours at perfumers apprentice as well? ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2015, 2:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/42 "2015-06-25T02:50:07Z")
> [@Smellymen2002](#): > > Did you get yours at perfumers apprentice as well? Yes. And I recently received my perfumers alcohol which the Hedione mixed with nicely. I got the alcohol from etsy. ---
**Author:** ![Meister\_Pharaoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Meister\_Pharaoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Meister_Pharaoh)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2015, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/43 "2015-06-25T03:28:52Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Here are a few current brands that use Hedione: > > Carolina Herrer 212 Men Summer “Limited Edition” > > Milton Lloyd Fame & Glory for Men. > > Givenchy Pour Homme, Blue Label. > > Paco Rabanne Invictus - Note that this one also contains Oakmoss, the famed component of Andron and AD’s now discontinued Game Scent. Hmmm…! 🙂 > > Paul Smith EDT > > Moschino Uomo EDT. > > Voyage d’Hermes Unisex Parfum. > > Azzaro Chrome for Men - Turns out I’ve been using this one as a cover for some years and yes, even without pheros, it has got the shirt ripped-off my back on more than a few occasions and many very positive comments/responses - but it does best with Sexual/Status mixes and for mixing NPA. If I may add to it, Eau de Sauvage EDT Acqua di Gio EDT L’eau D’Issey pour homme EDT CKOne Any others? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 5:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/44 "2015-06-27T17:36:17Z")
> [@Meister\_Pharaoh](#): > > If I may add to it, Go for it! The more quality Hedione products we can list between us all the better. As well as helping/saving money for people who may already have them but not know, it will take the wind out of the sails of second-raters selling solely on claims of containing it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/45 "2015-06-27T17:57:37Z")
On the basis of my first day’s results, there is definitely mileage in natural Jasmine as well. And its a light scent, lighter and cleaner than my existing Hedione product. I even reckon I could get away with wearing this at work at the Hospital site - where A314 oil is the only other scent light enough to use! 🙂 This also means that it could be used to bolster any number of other cover scents, without greatly affecting them. But my initial results are good - Light, sociable, engaging , flirty. Started by wearing two spots approx 1.5cm each side, below the ears. Scent settled to subtle, almost soap-levels in approx 45mins, then I added a spray of 2x TUTH and went out. Later added two more similar-size spots on each wrist when the initial scent had faded to barely detectable - approx two and a half hours but I don’t think I needed to - however results were not affected. Indicator of a wide effective dose range perhaps? Hits galore - Of the friendly/easy/jokey/playful/flirty variety. TUTH is apt to be harsh/hard-hitting, esp in daytime and around younger women but today, none of that. So i would say definitely attractive moderation properties. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 7:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/46 "2015-06-27T19:17:10Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > On the basis of my first day’s results, there is definitely mileage in natural Jasmine as well. > > And its a light scent, lighter and cleaner than my existing Hedione product. I even reckon I could get away with wearing this at work at the Hospital site - where A314 oil is the only other scent light enough to use! 🙂 > > This also means that it could be used to bolster any number of other cover scents, without greatly affecting them. > > But my initial results are good - Light, sociable, engaging , flirty. > > Started by wearing two spots approx 1.5cm each side, below the ears. Scent settled to subtle, almost soap-levels in approx 45mins, then I added a spray of 2x TUTH and went out. Later added two more similar-size spots on each wrist when the initial scent had faded to barely detectable - approx two and a half hours but I don’t think I needed to - however results were not affected. Indicator of a wide effective dose range perhaps? > > Hits galore - Of the friendly/easy/jokey/playful/flirty variety. TUTH is apt to be harsh/hard-hitting, esp in daytime and around younger women but today, none of that. So i would say definitely attractive moderation properties. 🙂 So would you say the jasmine works as good or better than Hedione? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 7:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/47 "2015-06-27T19:54:01Z")
I’ll reserve judgment for a bit yet, till I’ve taken it out more and in a wider range of environments - But initial results are pretty promising. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ekscentra\_temp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e480ec/32.png) [@Ekscentra\_temp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ekscentra_temp)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 8:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/48 "2015-06-27T20:32:51Z")
> [@Meister\_Pharaoh](#): > > If I may add to it, > > Eau de Sauvage EDT > > Acqua di Gio EDT > > L’eau D’Issey pour homme EDT > > CKOne > > Any others? Nearly every designer fragrance made within the past twenty years uses Hedione, Iso E Super, and a bit of Alpha -nol. The list would be many pages long, easily. ---
**Author:** ![Meister\_Pharaoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Meister\_Pharaoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Meister_Pharaoh)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/49 "2015-06-27T20:55:28Z")
Been testing different combinations of mones + hedione. Since the usage of mones isn’t an exact science, it’s hard to tell what the effects of hedione are on them. However, my observations tell me that hedione aids in projection and lifting the usefulness of whatever is being applied. I am not entirely convinced that applying hedione directly is necessary. Good quality colognes containing hedione has seemed to work just as fine - I tested it with Eau de Sauvage and Acqua di Gio; both of which paired very well with Ammo and IS. The Eau de Sauvage in particular got several compliments. I wonder if there’s an OD limit for hedione. Will test and report. ---
**Author:** ![Meister\_Pharaoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Meister\_Pharaoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Meister_Pharaoh)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 8:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/50 "2015-06-27T20:56:43Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Here are a few current brands that use Hedione: > > Carolina Herrer 212 Men Summer “Limited Edition” > > Milton Lloyd Fame & Glory for Men. > > Givenchy Pour Homme, Blue Label. > > Paco Rabanne Invictus - Note that this one also contains Oakmoss, the famed component of Andron and AD’s now discontinued Game Scent. Hmmm…! 🙂 > > Paul Smith EDT > > Moschino Uomo EDT. > > Voyage d’Hermes Unisex Parfum. > > Azzaro Chrome for Men - Turns out I’ve been using this one as a cover for some years and yes, even without pheros, it has got the shirt ripped-off my back on more than a few occasions and many very positive comments/responses - but it does best with Sexual/Status mixes and for mixing NPA. > Ekscentra > Nearly every designer fragrance made within the past twenty years uses Hedione, Iso E Super, and a bit of Alpha -nol. The list would be many pages long, easily. Could we perhaps find a number of colognes with a high concentration of hedione? I assume, of course, that more is better. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 9:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/51 "2015-06-27T21:43:46Z")
> [@Meister\_Pharaoh](#): > > Been testing different combinations of mones + hedione. > > Since the usage of mones isn’t an exact science, it’s hard to tell what the effects of hedione are on them. However, my observations tell me that hedione aids in projection and lifting the usefulness of whatever is being applied. > > I am not entirely convinced that applying hedione directly is necessary. Good quality colognes containing hedione has seemed to work just as fine - I tested it with Eau de Sauvage and Acqua di Gio; both of which paired very well with Ammo and IS. The Eau de Sauvage in particular got several compliments. > > I wonder if there’s an OD limit for hedione. Will test and report. I have been feeling the same way - as if just having a Hedione containing cologne would suffice.. But… I have come to find that Hedione can have different effects at different dosages. For instance, since using Hedione (in a 25% Hedione, 75% perfumers alcohol) I’ve found that about 2-4 sprays (from a 30ml spray bottle) has got to be WAY more Hedione than you would get out of a few sprays of a designer cologne, and what’s more is that with that much Hedione on, the effect mostly notable to me with the opposite sex is that it feels almost impossible to get rid of her.. Even if she ha somewhere important to be. This, I have never seen with aqua di gio. But… At lower dosages (say like in a designer cologne) I find I get better dihl responses. So after about 2 weeks of testing Hedione, I’ve come to the conclusion that dosages can certainly affect the outcome. I suppose perhaps many sprays of the designer brands can have the same effect. I imagine a heck of a lot more. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 9:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/52 "2015-06-27T21:54:51Z")
> [@Meister\_Pharaoh](#): > > Could we perhaps find a number of colognes with a high concentration of hedione? I assume, of course, that more is better. I’m no expert, but from my studies and research, the majority of colognes have at least 70something percent alcohol, and Hedione will often be one of many ingredients. I highly doubt you’ll be able to find a higher percentage Hedione containing cologne than to make your own. ---
**Author:** ![Ekscentra\_temp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e480ec/32.png) [@Ekscentra\_temp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ekscentra_temp)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 9:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/53 "2015-06-27T21:56:31Z")
> [@Meister\_Pharaoh](#): > > Could we perhaps find a number of colognes with a high concentration of hedione? I assume, of course, that more is better. You could always make your own mix - your favorite fragrance + a bit of hedione. The only thing it doesn’t seem to pair well with are most florals. CKOne and Eau Sauvage are perhaps the most well-known fragrances with high concentrations of hedione. I assume most of those listed just happen to contain hedione, and not in high concentrations at that. And no, more is not necessarily better. Less will still act to enhance diffusion while providing the same level of pheromonal benefits. Too much hedione, as with Iso E Super, can overbuffer mixes. ---
**Author:** ![dccj1985](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b3f665/32.png) [@dccj1985](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dccj1985)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2015, 1:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/54 "2015-06-28T01:16:34Z")
I bought the 80 ML bottle. I m not even sure how to apply it. Other than applying it on as aftershave? I may be applying way too much 😛 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2015, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/55 "2015-06-28T19:32:55Z")
Day two of my Jasmine went in much the same way as my first. This time it was 4 1.5cm spots of Jasmine - each side of my neck and wrists, with a tiny bit of Arabian Rose oil to fill-out the scent into something that didn’t need a cover and 2 sprays 2x TUTH. Only one significant neg/OD - and she was young, probably under twenty and got out of my vicinity **fast** but otherwise, women from their mid 20s-up tended to respond very well indeed and with none of the harshness/shock I’d expect from TUTH in daytime - A bit of DIHL in some (mostly younger) but quickly overcome and then into friendly/flirty/chatty/full-on eye contact/big smiles and the occasional bit of light kino. One 30s woman did get a bit carried away and went into raptures about how good I was smelling. With an obvious suitor looking-on somewhat bemused! She had high-neck minidress on, so some of the more obvious signs of arousal were less clear - although her eyes, hands and hair-flicks told me plenty. As did her thighs - bare legs and fair skin did nothing to hide her flushing - and I had been checking them out as I got closer! 😉😃 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2015, 11:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/56 "2015-06-28T23:35:38Z")
I’m not entirely convinced that the Jasmine oil I’ve been using isn’t itself bolstered with Hedione but I’ve been convinced enough now to order two more natural Jasmine preps - One of particularly high quality/purity, so it will be interesting to compare. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![El\_Laberinto](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/el_laberinto/32/307_2.png) [@El\_Laberinto](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/El_Laberinto)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 10:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/57 "2015-06-29T10:54:25Z")
I just got my Hedione. Will test it in few days. Can you guys tell me what is your sweet spot and how do you apply your Hedione? ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/d/de7a3a6ec95a799fbe9d2d037064d6129130e448.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 1:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/58 "2015-06-29T13:31:54Z")
> [@El\_Laberinto](#): > > Can you guys tell me what is your sweet spot and how do you apply your Hedione? Way to early to even suggest something like that - you really are in on the ground floor with the rest of us here! 🙂 Try reading from page-2 of this thread-on, you will see what different methods/doses people are using. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 1:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/59 "2015-06-29T13:35:28Z")
Same 4 1.5cm spots of Jasmine as yesterday, 3 drops A314 Rev 32 - And a roomful of mainly Korean women, from early 20s to probably 50s. Mainly in the 20s-30s though. That was fun! Great light flirty/chatty interaction but still with excellent status responses, deference, compliance etc. Absolutely no social hesitancy on any part. I didn’t expect it but with no-notice, I was asked to attend and assist with a visit by a fairly senior South Korean Diplomat. Who himself was very pleasant and affable. Wonder why! :o 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 3:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/60 "2015-06-29T15:34:45Z")
> [@El\_Laberinto](#): > > I just got my Hedione. Will test it in few days. Can you guys tell me what is your sweet spot and how do you apply your Hedione? > > [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/frUxOXQ.jpg) My guess is there is no ‘sweet spot’ for Hedione. I’m thinking having about 1 sprays of 12.5% Hedione concentration (in conjunction with mones) produces a lot of the dihl for me.. But, anything above 1 spray of 50% Hedione concentration (in conjunction with mones) produces more of an emotional bonding and sexual effect, with a great deal of motivation. So I would say it all depends on what you’re going for. The way I apply is mix a concentration of it in perfumers alcohol and make my own spray using one of the 30ml spray bottles so it matches all of my pheromones. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168.md?page=2) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168.md?page=4)