# "Revealed: the aftershave that turns women on" - Guys, read this! **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [April 10, 2015, 8:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168 "2015-04-10T20:57:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2015, 5:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/81 "2015-07-05T17:46:31Z")
Its a potential allergen for a very small percentage of people. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2015, 5:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/82 "2015-07-05T17:52:48Z")
Attention-seeking girl from yesterday is back - and this time she’s in a low-cut top and rather ostentatiously fanning her reddening cleavage. Is a fine day out but not that fine! 😃 And several other good social/flirty/chatty/sexy hits today. With a good wide age range. Again its 2 sprays 2x TUTH and two **tiny** dabs of the ASAQ Jasmine. Literally the end of the applicator’s worth, then spread out with my fingertip. Scent/concentration is good and strong, so you hardly need any of the stuff but it fades quite rapidly, after 2-3 hours, so I’ve just restored it with a third dab to the top of my head. 🙂 ETA - Looked-up after typing the above to find a tousle-headed blonde woman maybe around 40, walking slowly past me, staring hard - I returned her gaze and she kept it whilst walking in an arc past me. Rather obvious or what! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2015, 7:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/83 "2015-07-09T07:24:53Z")
> [@Jdub](#): > > So why ban it? For the same reason we ban fishing with hand grenades - some people think it’s not sporting! Just ordered a couple of OZ of full strength hedione plus less quantities of jasmine, rose, and castoreum. I wonder how the hedione will mix with NPA and Eau Sauvage? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2015, 5:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/84 "2015-07-09T17:03:29Z")
Castoreum is interesting stuff - Its used in Chanel Antaeus, which was my choice for a sexual/attractive cologne before Chrome and it had delivered well over several years. Antaeus is definitely more sexual in effect than Chrome or Hedione but its a rather robust scent which severely limited the amount of places I could use it - It was night/dates only really. Work or general wear was out. It was also a very good one to dilute NPA with and its strength meant you could dilute the NPA at a considerably higher strength than a more normal cologne - Which is great at my age. 🙂 Just reduced two of the three young ladies (late 20s, slightly posh) in my local coffee roaster to gibbering, smiling, flirty confusion, whilst the third (youngest/newest) looked-on nonplussed. Two sprays 5.mcg TUTH plus two 1cm spots of Swiss Jasmine - Great fun! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 4:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/85 "2015-07-10T16:38:00Z")
Well, the first of my oakmoss oil arrived - My initial assessment of the scent was that it was like being holed-up in a small tent in the rain, with an **incredibly smelly and muddy pair of hiking boots!** I reckon this one is going to need significant dilution to let the attractive notes out. The other bottle is a less full-on prep that should be suitable for wear straight from the bottle - I… HOPE…! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 11:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/86 "2015-07-16T23:36:59Z")
I’m looking forward to get some hedione. Since I am not a perfume user, I wish to dilute it in some neutral base that will not conflict with mones. Can someone explain to me what ‘perfumer’s alcohol’ is. Is it either propylene glycol, or dipropylene glycol? If so, which one of the two is best? If it’s none of those substances, why can’t I find any mention of alcohol on perfumer apprentice in any of the sections. Do they offer that alcohol for sale? Thanks in advance. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 12:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/87 "2015-07-17T00:38:14Z")
Its SD40 alcohol. PG/DPG is what we commonly refer to as oil. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 3:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/88 "2015-07-17T03:51:10Z")
Thanks, I’ll try to get a hold of that. ---
**Author:** ![Slogan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Slogan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Slogan)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 7:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/89 "2015-07-17T07:59:50Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Two sprays 5.mcg TUTH plus two 1cm spots of Swiss Jasmine - Great fun! 😃 The Swiss Jasmin, is that the one produced by Firmenich? ---
**Author:** ![jit47](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@jit47](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jit47)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 4:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/90 "2015-07-17T16:59:20Z")
One mone vendor is removing hedione, because hedione is decreasing the effectiveness of mones. ---
**Author:** ![matrix1973](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/43a26b/32.png) [@matrix1973](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/matrix1973)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 8:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/91 "2015-07-17T20:38:07Z")
> [@jit47](#): > > One mone vendor is removing hedione, because hedione is decreasing the effectiveness of mones. So does this mean I shouldn’t wear my go to Aqua Di Gio (which I understand contains 25% Hedione) so that it doesnt neutralize my mones— [WHEN I GET THEM??? :mad:](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-of-matrix-follow-the-white-rabbit/64679) M$ ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/92 "2015-07-17T20:49:47Z")
> [@jit47](#): > > One mone vendor is removing hedione, because hedione is decreasing the effectiveness of mones. I completely disagree with this statement. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/93 "2015-07-17T20:51:00Z")
> [@matrix1973](#): > > So does this mean I shouldn’t wear my go to Aqua Di Gio (which I understand contains 25% Hedione) so that it doesnt neutralize my mones— [WHEN I GET THEM??? :mad:](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-of-matrix-follow-the-white-rabbit/64679) > > M$ I don’t think that’s the case - just look at mine and mobocaster’s results.. I bet he would agree with me that Hedione definitely ENHANCES pheromone effects. ---
**Author:** ![jit47](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@jit47](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jit47)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 9:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/94 "2015-07-17T21:55:53Z")
> [@matrix1973](#): > > So does this mean I shouldn’t wear my go to Aqua Di Gio (which I understand contains 25% Hedione) so that it doesnt neutralize my mones— [WHEN I GET THEM??? :mad:](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-of-matrix-follow-the-white-rabbit/64679) > > M$ As long as you don’t apply it on top of your application point you should be good…I think. ---
**Author:** ![jit47](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@jit47](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jit47)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 9:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/95 "2015-07-17T21:59:35Z")
> [@Jdub](#): > > I don’t think that’s the case - just look at mine and mobocaster’s results.. I bet he would agree with me that Hedione definitely ENHANCES pheromone effects. Paradox did a report on Hedione screwing up a mone for him.You could ask him. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 4:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/96 "2015-07-18T04:45:16Z")
> [@jit47](#): > > Paradox did a report on Hedione screwing up a mone for him.You could ask him. Oh, one particular mone? I could see how that could happen seeing as Hedione causes certain effects that may be like the opposite of said desire of said mone… Heck, even some mones interfere with other mones. Which mone was it? IS always interferes and ruins my mixes.. But TAC enhances everything! Haha My thoughts are it depends on which mone you’re wearing, but for what it’s worth, Hedione seems to definitely be a sexual/flirty enhancer. I could also imagine, Hedione taking someone’s mix over the top, causing an OD effect. ---
**Author:** ![jit47](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@jit47](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jit47)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 8:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/97 "2015-07-18T08:26:10Z")
> [@Jdub](#): > > Oh, one particular mone? > I could see how that could happen seeing as Hedione causes certain effects that may be like the opposite of said desire of said mone… Heck, even some mones interfere with other mones. > Which mone was it? > IS always interferes and ruins my mixes.. > But TAC enhances everything! Haha > My thoughts are it depends on which mone you’re wearing, but for what it’s worth, Hedione seems to definitely be a sexual/flirty enhancer. > > I could also imagine, Hedione taking someone’s mix over the top, causing an OD effect. It is from another vendor.No it is not a signal molecule…it is an alpha blend.From what I have heard, it has a EST like effect.It is possible it is only bad when added on top/mixed with mones(messing up chemicals bonds maybe…idk). ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/98 "2015-07-18T19:23:21Z")
> [@Jdub](#): > > I don’t think that’s the case - just look at mine and mobocaster’s results.. I bet he would agree with me that Hedione definitely ENHANCES pheromone effects. It enhances some - in a friendly/feelgood/attractive steering way. More moderation maybe in that its properties help put the subject in a better place for a positive response to a sexual and sexually attractive behaviour. However I could see that it might be unsuitable for some mones/combinations, leading to over moderation/ineffectiveness. The amount of smiles/stares/low-level IOIs I’m getting with Hedione/Jasmine on its own and particularly with mones - I’ve mainly been sticking to TUTH for consistency definitely says something to me. And its constant - as things are quiet, I’ve been wearing it around work without mones and getting all sorts of sit-up and beg/attention-getting responses. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![GorchFock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90ced4/32.png) [@GorchFock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorchFock)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 11:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/99 "2015-07-19T11:12:11Z")
> [@jit47](#): > > Paradox did a report on Hedione screwing up a mone for him.You could ask him. I don’t think it is the case either. More likely the addition of hedione simply disrupted the known or assumed effects of the product by changing the ratios of the other mones. I also don’t agree with paradox’s view on EST for example. He repeatedly stated that EST would betafy/desuxalize/castrate any masculine or alpha mix and render them ineffective. I’ve used EST in various mixes and conclude it’s a valuable mone if you know how (much and to pair with) to use it. Mones and their effects remain a highly individual thing ---
**Author:** ![jit47](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@jit47](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jit47)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 4:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168/100 "2015-07-20T04:59:58Z")
> [@GorchFock](#): > > I don’t think it is the case either. More likely the addition of hedione simply disrupted the known or assumed effects of the product by changing the ratios of the other mones. > I also don’t agree with paradox’s view on EST for example. > He repeatedly stated that EST would betafy/desuxalize/castrate any masculine or alpha mix and render them ineffective. I’ve used EST in various mixes and conclude it’s a valuable mone if you know how (much and to pair with) to use it. Mones and their effects remain a highly individual thing Different folks different strokes…I was trying to tell that hedione can make make a mix less sexual and closing bit hard. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168.md?page=4) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168.md?page=6)