# Revisiting mx297: two sprays before a massage and a very flirty masseuse

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [November 23, 2012, 12:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revisiting-mx297-two-sprays-before-a-massage-and-a-very-flirty-masseuse/57346 "2012-11-23T00:47:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![millwark](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/millwark/32/560_2.png) [@millwark](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/millwark)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2012, 12:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revisiting-mx297-two-sprays-before-a-massage-and-a-very-flirty-masseuse/57346/1 "2012-11-23T00:47:38Z")

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Well, I’ve always been a fan of this stuff. The scent I’ve got is Akuto if I’m not mistaken. Maybe someone can chime in on that.

So anyhow, I’ve always been a massage type of guy after a long day. It just sucks the stress right out of me. So this past Tues was no exception. Rough day…stressing the presentation of a new guitar build to a client and it went well, but anyways…

I was approaching the place I frequent, so I applied 2 sprays of mx297…one between my wrists and on at the back of my neck. 😃 You know she’s gonna get a nice strong whiff of that.

This woman is in her mid 20’s and I do not know her name, but she was cute, hot and very flirty. She was also professional. It took maybe…20 minutes, but the barriers were down, and she was coming in close. She wanted something, but you know…she’s a professional. 🙄

She was working my upper thighs and doing a great job, when she started getting in a little closer than she normally does. I mean…pinky against the nuts maybe once or twice…ok, but she’s clearly half grabbing them with 3 or 4 fingers. I wasn’t complaining…and neither was ahhemmm you know. This stuff makes me feel pretty awesome too! I get just as horny, so I just let it happen.

She ended up giving me a quick playful squeeze of my uh youknowwhat and just smiled real big, but seemed somewhat embarrassed. 😮 I just smiled back and knew what could happen if I pursued things further. That’s the real power right there, knowing what lurks in the stuff that Androtics creates. I just wish for a 30m bottle or two of this stuff to show up on my doorstep one day. Wishful thinking maybe…:o MX297 is absolutely without a doubt, my all time favorite product.

These [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) are mighty powerful people. Use em to better the world…one cute Asian at a time! 😛

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**Author:** ![alexjustdoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alexjustdoit/32/5176_2.png) [@alexjustdoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alexjustdoit)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2012, 1:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revisiting-mx297-two-sprays-before-a-massage-and-a-very-flirty-masseuse/57346/2 "2012-11-23T01:05:28Z")

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Oh goodness, that doesn’t help the Asian massage stereotype 😃 good stuff, just about the most blatant hit I’ve heard.

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**Author:** ![millwark](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/millwark/32/560_2.png) [@millwark](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/millwark)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2012, 3:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revisiting-mx297-two-sprays-before-a-massage-and-a-very-flirty-masseuse/57346/3 "2012-11-23T03:33:36Z")

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> [@alexjustdoit](#):
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> Oh goodness, that doesn’t help the Asian massage stereotype 😃 good stuff, just about the most blatant hit I’ve heard.

And absolutely no offense meant. The woman is fantastic at what she does…every credit to her, and she’s paid well! 😉

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**Author:** ![Liquid\_Mind44](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/liquid_mind44/32/1984_2.png) [@Liquid\_Mind44](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Liquid_Mind44)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2012, 4:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revisiting-mx297-two-sprays-before-a-massage-and-a-very-flirty-masseuse/57346/4 "2012-11-23T04:16:49Z")

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Good result

I’ve had mixed results with [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) so far - namely the bad self effects.  
Did you find this to be the same with you?

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**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2012, 10:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revisiting-mx297-two-sprays-before-a-massage-and-a-very-flirty-masseuse/57346/5 "2012-11-23T10:35:30Z")

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mx297 is great if you want friendship and can act congruent with that.. i’ve tried pairing it up with ammo , IS etc but friendship and emotional feelings is all I get. makes you charismatic in self effects, has a horrible castration effect the day after where you feel like a woman naked in emotions.

I once was so impressed with the results of mx297 because I saw it was getting women opening up to me I ordered 5 togos the day after I tried it once. then later I realized I was being friended by all these women, they all found me too boyish with it, and it was causing my balls to fall off.

I don’t wear it anymore.

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**Author:** ![Liquid\_Mind44](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/liquid_mind44/32/1984_2.png) [@Liquid\_Mind44](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Liquid_Mind44)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2012, 10:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revisiting-mx297-two-sprays-before-a-massage-and-a-very-flirty-masseuse/57346/6 "2012-11-23T10:39:59Z")

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> [@dsouza](#):
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> mx297 is great if you want friendship and can act congruent with that.. i’ve tried pairing it up with ammo , IS etc but friendship and emotional feelings is all I get. makes you charismatic in self effects, has a horrible castration effect the day after where you feel like a woman naked in emotions.
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> I once was so impressed with the results of mx297 because I saw it was getting women opening up to me I ordered 5 togos the day after I tried it once. then later I realized I was being friended by all these women, they all found me too boyish with it, and it was causing my balls to fall off.
> 
> I don’t wear it anymore.

Yeah seems to be the case. However have you thought about pairing it with TUTH or -none just to add a sexual edge?

Im thinking of wearing 297 tonight with a custom mix which has -none in it.

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**Author:** ![millwark](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/millwark/32/560_2.png) [@millwark](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/millwark)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2012, 12:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revisiting-mx297-two-sprays-before-a-massage-and-a-very-flirty-masseuse/57346/7 "2012-11-23T12:21:34Z")

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In all honesty, mx297 comes with sexual edge built right in…

I’m a diehard mx297 user and have been since sliced bread came out. What it’s really about is being able to harness the effects of mx297 mentally. It’s like that with many, if not all [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/).

So with mx297, you can mix it with other things if you’re after certain results, but humbly in my opinion it can stand up on its own. For me, it’s a great stand alone product…one of the few out there that doesn’t need to be improved. It could be, but works great on its own…if it hasn’t been changed.

I’ve noticed that it breaks down barriers with women, let’s other men know that you’re the big dog in town but with friendly overtones, can be really sexual or just friendly/flirty, smells alluring if not mysterious, and lastly but not least…I love the self effects. I enjoy the “balls so huge that they are dragging on the ground behind you” effect rather appealing.

I think we should start a thread about how to handle and harness the effect of pheros. So many great products, that with the right amount of knowledge could be used for world peace.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2012, 1:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revisiting-mx297-two-sprays-before-a-massage-and-a-very-flirty-masseuse/57346/8 "2012-11-23T13:15:33Z")

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> [@Liquid\_Mind44](#):
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> Yeah seems to be the case. However have you thought about pairing it with TUTH or -none just to add a sexual edge?
> 
> Im thinking of wearing 297 tonight with a custom mix which has -none in it.

TUTH or plain androstenone are my favourites for paring with [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) etc. All my best results with the stuff have been with one or the other.

They add a good sexual kick but detract least from the MX297 vibe.

However, I also agree with millwark - MX297 stands up very well on its own and I always let it do its work alone for a while to let the closeness, comfort and rapport build - then I add the sexual!

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2012, 1:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revisiting-mx297-two-sprays-before-a-massage-and-a-very-flirty-masseuse/57346/9 "2012-11-23T13:18:50Z")

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> [@millwark](#):
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> Use em to better the world…_ **one cute Asian at a time!** _ 😛

I, withOUT a doubt, M to the Mest, absolutely love the sound of that!!! It just sounds so damn DELICIOUS!!! Yummer!! 😉

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**Author:** ![millwark](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/millwark/32/560_2.png) [@millwark](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/millwark)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2012, 6:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revisiting-mx297-two-sprays-before-a-massage-and-a-very-flirty-masseuse/57346/10 "2012-11-23T18:26:24Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> TUTH or plain androsterone are my favourites for paring with MX297 etc. All my best results with the stuff have been with one or the other.
> 
> They add a good sexual kick but detract least from the MX297 vibe.
> 
> However, I also agree with millwark - MX297 stands up very well on its own and I always let it do its work alone for a while to let the closeness, comfort and rapport build - then I add the sexual!

I might be overly sexy already then, because when I use TUTH, it’s way to overpowering for everything…I mean that. There is not a time when I found that it worked…probably made me out to be Colin Farrell on crank, meth, speed, testosterone injections, and crack. On that stuff, I can’t even compensate for its effects.

Androsterone in my experience, is the Clint Eastwood kinda vibe…definitely not sexual in nature, at least based on my testing. For example, whenever I’m gonna be dealing with an older person…like my father in law for example, they love that stuff. It makes me seem more mature for my age. It gives me more credibility. I find that to be the case 99 percent of the time. That is what I use it for.

You could ostensibly add it to a mix to attract older women…cougars for example, but it seems to affect people more in a cool respectable older man sort of way. And let’s face it, cougars go with younger men because they are younger…not older. Most of the time, I don’t want to appear older than I am. It does have its uses though. Definitely part of my regimen.

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revisiting-mx297-two-sprays-before-a-massage-and-a-very-flirty-masseuse/57346/11 "2012-11-23T18:35:21Z")

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I think that’s a typo. Mobo always wears TUTH or -None.

I’ve been wrong before, and I’m sure he’ll come back and verify my GUESS WORK. 😉

If I may, how old are you, Mil; and how many mcgs of TUTH are you talking about?

Thanks

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revisiting-mx297-two-sprays-before-a-massage-and-a-very-flirty-masseuse/57346/12 "2012-11-23T18:57:57Z")

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Curse of the iPad spellcheck there - I typed Androstenone! 😠

Post edited to make sense.

I **do not** find rone to be a good companion to [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/).

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2012, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revisiting-mx297-two-sprays-before-a-massage-and-a-very-flirty-masseuse/57346/13 "2012-11-23T19:03:14Z")

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> [@millwark](#):
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> I might be overly sexy already then, because when I use TUTH, it’s way to overpowering for everything…I mean that. There is not a time when I found that it worked…probably made me out to be Colin Farrell on crank, meth, speed, testosterone injections, and crack. On that stuff, I can’t even compensate for its effects.

Yup - [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) and TUTH or none did get some pretty wild results - that TBH was a good half the fun of the combo. Add the sexual and just watch the whirlwind hit! 😃

Age could well be a factor here - I’ve also long held that a younger guy with a decent natural none production would not generally need to be adding anything to this.

And the other important factor with MX297 is that it can moderate just about anything in a very social and engaging direction.

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**Author:** ![millwark](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/millwark/32/560_2.png) [@millwark](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/millwark)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2012, 1:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revisiting-mx297-two-sprays-before-a-massage-and-a-very-flirty-masseuse/57346/14 "2012-11-24T01:28:14Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> Curse of the iPad spellcheck there - I typed Androstenone! 😠
> 
> Post edited to make sense.
> 
> I **do not** find rone to be a good companion to MX297.

Makes a bit more sense now. 🙄

As far as my age…old enough to know and young enough not to care…? I forget how that goes…😃

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2012, 5:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revisiting-mx297-two-sprays-before-a-massage-and-a-very-flirty-masseuse/57346/15 "2012-11-24T17:34:45Z")

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> [@millwark](#):
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> Makes a bit more sense now. 🙄
> 
> As far as my age…old enough to know and young enough not to care…? I forget how that goes…😃

Okay. Well, may we know what age range you chase?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 8:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revisiting-mx297-two-sprays-before-a-massage-and-a-very-flirty-masseuse/57346/16 "2012-11-25T08:34:57Z")

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For a change, its [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/)/P75 for me today - 2 sprays/7.5mcg.

Good solid kino greeting, hug and flirty chat with a pretty blonde early 20-something and her older Polish pal was more animated towards me than I’ve ever seen her before. Fun! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Liquid\_Mind44](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/liquid_mind44/32/1984_2.png) [@Liquid\_Mind44](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Liquid_Mind44)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 9:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revisiting-mx297-two-sprays-before-a-massage-and-a-very-flirty-masseuse/57346/17 "2012-11-25T09:25:52Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> For a change, its MX297/P75 for me today - 2 sprays/7.5mcg.
> 
> Good solid kino greeting, hug and flirty chat with a pretty blonde early 20-something and her older Polish pal was more animated towards me than I’ve ever seen her before. Fun! 🙂

What are your sweet spots mob?

I was told higher than 2.5 mcg on [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) can have bad effects on males as they get the envy out and snub you.

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 10:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revisiting-mx297-two-sprays-before-a-massage-and-a-very-flirty-masseuse/57346/18 "2012-11-25T10:09:16Z")

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STOP listening and fearing what everybody say, and TEST THE PRODUCTS TO FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF. I’m willing to bet that there are lots of people missing out on the best mixes for them because they read/fear what someone else SAID happened to them, or fear the word OD. As of this very second, as best as I know, NO ONE HAS DIED from an OD or using too much [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/). 🙄 There are people have used 30 mcgs, and had fun! I’m one of them. The arrival of P96 anyone? 😕

Test! Test! Test! It’s the ONLY way. 😉

Two sprays of 297, too, Mobo?

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 12:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revisiting-mx297-two-sprays-before-a-massage-and-a-very-flirty-masseuse/57346/19 "2012-11-25T12:49:30Z")

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> [@M\_M](#):
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> STOP listening and fearing what everybody say, and TEST THE PRODUCTS TO FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF. I’m willing to bet that there are lots of people missing out on the best mixes for them because they read/fear what someone else SAID happened to them, or fear the word OD. As of this very second, as best as I know, NO ONE HAS DIED from an OD or using too much P75. 🙄 There are people have used 30 mcgs, and had fun! I’m one of them. The arrival of P96 anyone? 😕
> 
> Test! Test! Test! It’s the ONLY way. 😉
> 
> Two sprays of 397, too, Mobo?
> 
> Thanks!

Can you get mx297 other than akuto scent? I am not a fan of akuto - it reminds me of some Indian/Arabic incent

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**Author:** ![Liquid\_Mind44](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/liquid_mind44/32/1984_2.png) [@Liquid\_Mind44](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Liquid_Mind44)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2012, 12:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revisiting-mx297-two-sprays-before-a-massage-and-a-very-flirty-masseuse/57346/20 "2012-11-25T12:54:33Z")

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> [@CoolKat](#):
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> Can you get mx297 other than akuto scent? I am not a fan of akuto - it reminds me of some Indian/Arabic incent

Yes MX390 which should be FF21 or ammo summer fragrance.

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