# Riding dirty with p83 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 20, 2012, 10:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/riding-dirty-with-p83/54981 "2012-03-20T22:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Roy\_Dillon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/roy_dillon/32/1380_2.png) [@Roy\_Dillon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Roy_Dillon)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 10:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/riding-dirty-with-p83/54981/1 "2012-03-20T22:44:08Z")
šŸ˜‰ So my 20mcg [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) arrived this morning FEDEX priority by 10:30 AM (awesome service by AD as usual..thanks!) & was very eager to add it to my mix for the day, so thats what I did; 1s IO back of neck, 2s IH hair, 1s TUTH to lower abs, 1 teensy drop A314 to crook of elbows &ā€¦1s P83 each side of neck. Iā€™m freaking ready to ride at this point, right? So off I go to catch some breakfast at this joint Iā€™ve been dining at but havenā€™t been there for 5 days; theres a hot new manager there that has been giving me some nice attention & I want to see the effect of THIS mix on her. The 20 year old waitress sniffs me & starts grinning & talking tongue tied then blushes, takes my order & turns around to look at me grinning as she walks away to place my orderā€¦weā€™re defo off to a good start! I havenā€™t spied the hot manager yet, but when my food is served by the still grinning, stammering cute waitress, suddenly there she is at my table using her lithe body to block the waitress out of her way šŸ˜› She speaks grinning & asks how my weekend was & where have I been? so I ask ā€œwhich question should I answer first?ā€ & she gets embarrassed & I donā€™t answer but ask her how her weekend was instead & did she get into any trouble? She answers ā€œit was OK, I told my BF I wanted to do something fun but I was disappointedā€¦ā€ so first I hear of her BF is in a somewhat negative tone. Long story short, she hangs at my table for 15 minutes straight giving me big cute smiles so I neg her a little & say ā€œYou had braces when you were younger didnā€™t you?ā€ & she says yes & I say ā€œthey did a great job leaving that tiny gap between your two front teeth, looks so naturalā€ & she gets kinda flustered & asks if its too noticeable & I quip ā€œNaw, its charming, no oneā€™s perfectā€ & quickly change subject by complimenting her black pants while quickly looking right at her snatch šŸ˜ƒ then up to her eyes. She subconsciously responds by pressing her hips towards me & I look again then back up to her eyes & mouth.Sheā€™s getting DIHL & moves body closer to me & keeps rapping, closing the distance, pushing those thin sexy hips at me ever so slightly. The whole time at my table her feet & body are STRAIGHT at me & I sensed she wanted to sit down as she started to make that kind of motion but then BAM the entrance gets slammed with patrons & she says ā€œIā€™m sorry, but Iā€™ll be backā€ and off she goes to help ring up peeps. I catch her looking sideways at me then DOWN (good sign) & then when custys are gone I get up to pay my bill & she helps me & asks ā€œwill you be in again this week, Iā€™m off Friday & Saturday?ā€ & I tell her ā€œIā€™ll be back in as my schedule allows, but you are awfully cuteā€ & she grins huge showing those cute front teeth w/gap between them. I can tell shes down for whatever! I would say the P83 definitely helped things along, tremendous hits & great convo & IOIā€™s the whole timeā€¦nice šŸ˜‰ Oh yeah & as Iā€™m paying the cute waitress comes to the register just to smile at me šŸ˜• as she did nothing else business wise & my mgr shooed her away to clean a table! I was hoping for a hair pulling, blouse ripping cat fight! LOL P83 works it for me šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![maxx55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8491ac/32.png) [@maxx55](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maxx55)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 9:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/riding-dirty-with-p83/54981/2 "2012-03-21T09:17:35Z")
Out of curiosity, how old are you? ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 10:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/riding-dirty-with-p83/54981/3 "2012-03-21T10:32:47Z")
I like what you have experienced and look forward to this summer myself. Iā€™m kind of on a self-imposed exile. I told Mickaelia how I wanted to shed the player vibe I have in Memphis and focus more on myself. [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) reminds me (especially with stories like yours) just how much fun is to be had with mones. Very happy you posted this and because you did, you have earned reporting user status. Congratulations and keep reporting. ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_Dillon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/roy_dillon/32/1380_2.png) [@Roy\_Dillon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Roy_Dillon)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 5:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/riding-dirty-with-p83/54981/4 "2012-03-21T17:01:15Z")
> [@maxx55](#): > > Out of curiosity, how old are you? Iā€™m in my fifties but honestly look like Iā€™m 40-43? or so since babes in their 20ā€™s - 60ā€™s find me attractive. I am always shocked when a 20 something or hottie in her thirties gives me IOIā€™s. Iā€™m getting waaaay more attention from younger women now that my phero sig says ā€œyouthful & sex godā€šŸ˜‰ whether at the gym or on the street. Loving. It. My youthful appearance is due no doubt to my motherā€™s family tree genetics coupled with regular workouts since I was 27 (which releases HGH) & intelligently researched supplements that I take. Makes a difference my peeps ā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_Dillon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/roy_dillon/32/1380_2.png) [@Roy\_Dillon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Roy_Dillon)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 5:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/riding-dirty-with-p83/54981/5 "2012-03-21T17:03:17Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > I like what you have experienced and look forward to this summer myself. Iā€™m kind of on a self-imposed exile. I told Mickaelia how I wanted to shed the player vibe I have in Memphis and focus more on myself. P83 reminds me (especially with stories like yours) just how much fun is to be had with mones. > > Very happy you posted this and because you did, you have earned reporting user status. Congratulations and keep reporting. :)Thanks a million Steve! Means a lot, a real honor, Iā€™ll try not to disappoint in my new position! You guys at AD r truly rocking it šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 8:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/riding-dirty-with-p83/54981/6 "2012-03-21T20:42:11Z")
> [@Roy\_Dillon](#): > > Iā€™m in my fifties but honestly look like Iā€™m 40-43? or so since babes in their 20ā€™s - 60ā€™s find me attractive. I am always shocked when a 20 something or hottie in her thirties gives me IOIā€™s. Iā€™m getting waaaay more attention from younger women now that my phero sig says ā€œyouthful & sex godā€šŸ˜‰ whether at the gym or on the street. Loving. It. > My youthful appearance is due no doubt to my motherā€™s family tree genetics coupled with regular workouts since I was 27 (which releases HGH) & **intelligently researched supplements that I take. Makes a difference my peeps** ā€¦ Iā€™d be curious as to what supplements youā€™re taking, and do you actually FEEL A DIFFERENCE after supplementing them into your daily intake? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_Dillon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/roy_dillon/32/1380_2.png) [@Roy\_Dillon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Roy_Dillon)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 10:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/riding-dirty-with-p83/54981/7 "2012-03-21T22:10:58Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Iā€™d be curious as to what supplements youā€™re taking, and do you actually FEEL A DIFFERENCE after supplementing them into your daily intake? > > Thanks! Hey M&M, u must be interested cos your description says:Senior Memberā€¦jk.. Actually thanks for asking because taking the proper supplements has kept me both LOOKING & FEELING youthful. First off exercise releases HGH regardless of your age, so if you have been exercising regularly (weight training & cardio in my case) you will be releasing copious amounts of your own endogenous HGH over extended periods of time that you choose to maintain an exercise program. Exercise is the foundation. To enhance the natural production of HGH I take a Life Extension Foundation supplement at night (4 caps) containing 1000 mg glutamine/1000 mg glycine just before bed (along w/1.5 mg melatonin to enhance awesome sleep), sleep being when your pituitary gland excretes its own HGH in abundance. Upon awakening I take 4 caps of a daytime HGH secretagogue formula containing arginine, ornithine & choline. These supplements night & day coupled with regular exercise have boosted my natural HGH levels as measured by my IGF-1 serum levels to that of a 30 year old man. This accounts for my zest, excellent health & youthful appearance. So yes, I do feel the effects of these particular supplements every day. I also take carnosine (which extends your life span by lengthening your DNA telomerase) & resveratrol (for the same reason of ā€œlife extensionā€). To stay healthy & flood my body with antioxidants I also take curcumin, milk thistle, green tea extract, SOD, Alpha lipoid acid, acetyl l-carnitine, carnitine & CLA(to burn fat), fish oils, co Q-10, & a good multivitamin. I will also cycle 7-keto DHEA to boost my testosterone levels (for muscle gain & to maintain 30 year old test levels, as measured by my blood serum levels). Yes I take a lot of shit but it all serves a purpose & just like mones, I have found my ā€œsweet spotā€ of nutritional supplementation as evidenced by my looks, health & over all sense of well being. It helps me stay feeling,looking & acting alpha despite my age. And when I bed a woman she KNOWS sheā€™s been fucked by the very best šŸ˜› šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 7:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/riding-dirty-with-p83/54981/8 "2012-03-26T07:36:55Z")
> [@Roy\_Dillon](#): > > Hey M&M, u must be interested cos your description says:Senior Memberā€¦jk.. > Actually thanks for asking because taking the proper supplements has kept me both LOOKING & FEELING youthful. First off exercise releases HGH regardless of your age, so if you have been exercising regularly (weight training & cardio in my case) you will be releasing copious amounts of your own endogenous HGH over extended periods of time that you choose to maintain an exercise program. Exercise is the foundation. > To enhance the natural production of HGH I take a Life Extension Foundation supplement at night (4 caps) containing 1000 mg glutamine/1000 mg glycine just before bed (along w/1.5 mg melatonin to enhance awesome sleep), sleep being when your pituitary gland excretes its own HGH in abundance. Upon awakening I take 4 caps of a daytime HGH secretagogue formula containing arginine, ornithine & choline. These supplements night & day coupled with regular exercise have boosted my natural HGH levels as measured by my IGF-1 serum levels to that of a 30 year old man. This accounts for my zest, excellent health & youthful appearance. So yes, I do feel the effects of these particular supplements every day. > I also take carnosine (which extends your life span by lengthening your DNA telomerase) & resveratrol (for the same reason of ā€œlife extensionā€). > To stay healthy & flood my body with antioxidants I also take curcumin, milk thistle, green tea extract, SOD, Alpha lipoid acid, acetyl l-carnitine, carnitine & CLA(to burn fat), fish oils, co Q-10, & a good multivitamin. I will also cycle 7-keto DHEA to boost my testosterone levels (for muscle gain & to maintain 30 year old test levels, as measured by my blood serum levels). > Yes I take a lot of shit but it all serves a purpose & just like mones, I have found my ā€œsweet spotā€ of nutritional supplementation as evidenced by my looks, health & over all sense of well being. It helps me stay feeling,looking & acting alpha despite my age. And when I bed a woman she KNOWS sheā€™s been fucked by the very best šŸ˜› šŸ˜ƒ Guessing, as my funds wonā€™t allow the whole store, that if you only had two products out of your stash, would it be the HGH day and night time? If so, how long have you been taking these products? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_Dillon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/roy_dillon/32/1380_2.png) [@Roy\_Dillon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Roy_Dillon)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/riding-dirty-with-p83/54981/9 "2012-03-26T16:45:21Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Guessing, as my funds wonā€™t allow the whole store, that if you only had two products out of your stash, would it be the HGH day and night time? If so, how long have you been taking these products? > > Thanks! LOL, true dat, I am all in with this stuff but its only cos Iā€™ve had amazing results & get hit on by much younger ass so it defo works for me šŸ˜ƒ You r right, I would recommend the HGH secretogogues AM & PM if I could only advise you on two supplements. Try them for 90 days & they will revolutionize your life my friend. Better skin, muscle tone, less fat, and a crazy ā€œI want to fuck you right now girlā€ gleam in your eye that the females are VERY drawn to tho they donā€™t know WHY (the very best part!). I KNOW the HGH enhancers ramp up your game if you are 35+ years of age (u young studs donā€™t need it, plz donā€™t waste your $$$ at this point, buy mones instead & good books on inner game). Go chase the money & the skirts my friends!šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_Dillon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/roy_dillon/32/1380_2.png) [@Roy\_Dillon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Roy_Dillon)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/riding-dirty-with-p83/54981/10 "2012-03-26T16:50:00Z")
> [@Roy\_Dillon](#): > > LOL, true dat, I am all in with this stuff but its only cos Iā€™ve had amazing results & get hit on by much younger ass so it defo works for me šŸ˜ƒ > > You r right, I would recommend the HGH secretogogues AM & PM if I could only advise you on two supplements. Try them for 90 days & they will revolutionize your life my friend. Better skin, muscle tone, less fat, and a crazy ā€œI want to fuck you right now girlā€ gleam in your eye that the females are VERY drawn to tho they donā€™t know WHY (the very best part!). I KNOW the HGH enhancers ramp up your game if you are 35+ years of age (u young studs donā€™t need it, plz donā€™t waste your $$$ at this point, buy mones instead & good books on inner game). > Go chase the money & the skirts my friends!šŸ˜› Oh yeah & Iā€™ve been on the HGH train for 3 years nowā€¦it just builds on itself results wise šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/riding-dirty-with-p83/54981/11 "2012-03-27T17:45:35Z")
> [@Roy\_Dillon](#): > > Oh yeah & Iā€™ve been on the HGH train for 3 years nowā€¦it just builds on itself results wise šŸ˜‰ You say **H** GH ā€¦ is that and Life Extensionā€™s GH Pituitary Support Day and Night formula one in the same? If so, is that the only HGH product youā€™ve taken in your 3 years of supplementing? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_Dillon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/roy_dillon/32/1380_2.png) [@Roy\_Dillon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Roy_Dillon)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 9:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/riding-dirty-with-p83/54981/12 "2012-03-27T21:30:25Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > You say **H** GH ā€¦ is that and Life Extensionā€™s GH Pituitary Support Day and Night formula one in the same? If so, is that the only HGH product youā€™ve taken in your 3 years of supplementing? > > Thanks! Hi M&M, actually LEā€™s Day & Night formulas are two separate products, one taken in PM & one upon awakening (on empty stomachs to absorb amino acids w/out obstruction by stomach contents). I have found these particular products to be VERY effective & cost effective as well. There are a lot of GH inducing products on the market but you donā€™t need to pay the high costs associated with most of them. I have primarily used the LE products the past 3 years exclusively & will continue to do so due to their efficacy & reasonable price. If you choose to utilize these secretagogues please give them at least 3-6 months consistent usage to achieve the great results you desire.šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 6:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/riding-dirty-with-p83/54981/13 "2012-03-28T06:29:38Z")
> [@Roy\_Dillon](#): > > Hi M&M, actually LEā€™s Day & Night formulas are two separate products, one taken in PM & one upon awakening (on empty stomachs to absorb amino acids w/out obstruction by stomach contents). I have found these particular products to be VERY effective & cost effective as well. There are a lot of GH inducing products on the market but you donā€™t need to pay the high costs associated with most of them. > I have primarily used the LE products the past 3 years exclusively & will continue to do so due to their efficacy & reasonable price. If you choose to utilize these secretagogues please give them at least 3-6 months consistent usage to achieve the great results you desire.šŸ™‚ After doing a bit of research, Iā€™ve decided that Iā€™m gonna give Secratatropin HGH, all in one, a shot. If time permits, will you give it a looking over, and tell me what you think? Thanks for the eye opener! I hope that it makes a difference for this old man. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_Dillon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/roy_dillon/32/1380_2.png) [@Roy\_Dillon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Roy_Dillon)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 6:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/riding-dirty-with-p83/54981/14 "2012-03-28T06:55:30Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > After doing a bit of research, Iā€™ve decided that Iā€™m gonna give Secratatropin HGH, all in one, a shot. If time permits, will you give it a looking over, and tell me what you think? > > Thanks for the eye opener! I hope that it makes a difference for this old man. šŸ˜‰ Sounds good! What does Secretatropin HGH contain? & how often/when do you take it? M&M, what is your age? These products really do work regardless of your age (the good news)! šŸ˜‰ One ā€œself effectā€ from the HGH produced by your pituitary is that you WILL start to FEEL youthful again & before you know it you will also begin to ACT & then LOOK youthful as well! Give the secretagogue some time to see if it doesnā€™t also boost your testosterone levels (this can & does happen as well). If it doesnā€™t boost your test levels adequately then there are GREAT products out there that do boost test naturally and they arenā€™t very pricey (more good news). As you feel more energetic & alive your inner & outer game really explodes! šŸ˜› Best wishes dude! ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 8:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/riding-dirty-with-p83/54981/15 "2012-03-28T08:12:31Z")
> [@Roy\_Dillon](#): > > Sounds good! What does Secretatropin HGH contain? & how often/when do you take it? M&M, what is your age? These products really do work regardless of your age (the good news)! šŸ˜‰ > One ā€œself effectā€ from the HGH produced by your pituitary is that you WILL start to FEEL youthful again & before you know it you will also begin to ACT & then LOOK youthful as well! Give the secretagogue some time to see if it doesnā€™t also boost your testosterone levels (this can & does happen as well). If it doesnā€™t boost your test levels adequately then there are GREAT products out there that do boost test naturally and they arenā€™t very pricey (more good news). > As you feel more energetic & alive your inner & outer game really explodes! šŸ˜› > Best wishes dude! Ingredients: [![](http://www.supplementing.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/tabbed_gallery/shgh1_0.png) ](http://www.supplementing.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/tabbed_gallery/shgh1_0.png) 5 pills before bed 54 ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_Dillon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/roy_dillon/32/1380_2.png) [@Roy\_Dillon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Roy_Dillon)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 8:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/riding-dirty-with-p83/54981/16 "2012-03-28T08:33:24Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Ingredients: > > [http://www.supplementing.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/tabbed\_gallery/shgh1\_0.png](http://www.supplementing.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/tabbed_gallery/shgh1_0.png) > > 5 pills before bed > > 54 Hey guy, that is an awesome formula (contains the same ingredients as LEā€™s day & night formulas) & then some! Plus the tribulus, ashwaganda & DHEA all help boost your testosterone levels - thats a sick compound bro, nicely done! Just be sure to take on a completely empty stomach at bedtime, donā€™t eat ANYTHING for at least 1-1/2 hours before taking 5 pills or the aminos wonā€™t upload in correct strength & timing to tickle your pituitary to release its HGH. Another trick to employ (this one really works!) is to take melatonin at the same time you take the HGH supps; melatonin is a natural hormone that our pituitary releases to help us fall & stay asleep - by taking some at bedtime you really sleep deeply & THAT encourages your pituitary to release even MORE HGH (in conjunction with being ā€œencouragedā€ by the HGH sups). Its a dynamite combo & you will wake up feeling refreshed & reborn! Melatonin is very cheap ($5 a bottle for 120 tabs), I take 1 1/2 mg nightly but your dose will pry be different, but start at 1 mg & gradually go up (just like mones) till you find your sweet spot, youā€™ll know it when you find it! However, donā€™t take melatonin if you suffer from any epileptic condition, that is a serious warning. Cheers mate šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_Dillon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/roy_dillon/32/1380_2.png) [@Roy\_Dillon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Roy_Dillon)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 8:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/riding-dirty-with-p83/54981/17 "2012-03-28T08:39:44Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Ingredients: > > [http://www.supplementing.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/tabbed\_gallery/shgh1\_0.png](http://www.supplementing.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/tabbed_gallery/shgh1_0.png) > > 5 pills before bed > > 54 Bro weā€™re the same ageā€¦šŸ†’ ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_38](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@Mark\_38](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mark_38)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 7:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/riding-dirty-with-p83/54981/18 "2012-03-28T19:16:13Z")
Was looking at the Secretatropin HGH myself, it is a bloody shame Australia has such strict rules and I cant get it into the country. So the the search continues for something that actually works and that I will be able to bring into the country ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_Dillon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/roy_dillon/32/1380_2.png) [@Roy\_Dillon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Roy_Dillon)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 8:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/riding-dirty-with-p83/54981/19 "2012-03-28T20:14:37Z")
> [@Mark\_38](#): > > Was looking at the Secretatropin HGH myself, it is a bloody shame Australia has such strict rules and I cant get it into the country. > So the the search continues for something that actually works and that I will be able to bring into the country Do you have access to any of the ingredients listed on their label, perhaps at a health food store or bodybuilding nutrient store? If so, just take the available amines at those listed mg dosages & you will get the HGH release you desire. You donā€™t need each & every supplement listed to achieve a great result. Just a suggestion, good luck! ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_38](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@Mark\_38](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mark_38)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 9:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/riding-dirty-with-p83/54981/20 "2012-03-28T21:31:50Z")
> [@Roy\_Dillon](#): > > Do you have access to any of the ingredients listed on their label, perhaps at a health food store or bodybuilding nutrient store? If so, just take the available amines at those listed mg dosages & you will get the HGH release you desire. You donā€™t need each & every supplement listed to achieve a great result. Just a suggestion, good luck! It is definitely an option I will look into Ray, from the ingredients listed on their website I can not see any substances that are prohibited in Australia and I can not read the list posted by M&M to see if there are any additional. I am thinking that buying the separate individual ingredients may turn out expensive and also thinking I will end up having to take a bucket load of pills which I will struggle to do at bedtime. But will stop on the way home tonight and see what is actually available here [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/riding-dirty-with-p83/54981.md?page=2)