# Rise of an Alpha **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [July 27, 2010, 2:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337 "2010-07-27T14:56:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 3:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/221 "2011-01-11T15:51:17Z")
Ahh damn it lol ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 4:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/222 "2011-01-11T16:53:44Z")
Olam, you are killing me. I feel bad enough as it is. I honestly think if I could get into this field as a career somehow I would. I love testing and learning about pheromones. I may try again in the future with a different scent. I still need to write up reports on P96, p74, and p93. My modified P96/MX353 formula seems to have some fallout. Actually I think the p96 creates the fallout and MX353 drives the need for more interaction. Last week Pheebs decided to talk to D about me. I had told Pheebs about my interaction with D and her response to the pheromones. So they were messaging each other after the New Year and Christmas break. Pheebs brought my name up for some reason. The conversation turned to how great a guy I am. Now both women are aware of me being married. I’m not entirely sure why Pheebs was talking me up. She said she wanted to see what the effects were. It had been at least a week since D’s exposure. Pheebs said that she didn’t think there would be any backlash. D is a light flirt, but would never cross boundaries. Well D instant messaged me that day. Started talking about Christmas and the usual. Conversation turned to her seeking approval and showing IOI’s over instant messaging. Hinting at her age and looks and whether she still had it. Conversation got into exercising during lunch and then a subtle hint about working out together. I was not driving the conversation, as I was a little worried about how this would go. In other words the risks were too high for me to even test for attraction. I did however remain friendly. The next day she messaged me again about some work stuff. Which led into more coversation about her and working out. Which led into more flirtation and a subtle invitation to stop by and see her. I didn’t take the bait. Another coworker that has known D for several years happened to mention that he too had talked to D about me. She knows that we work together and she brought me up in conversation. He also raved about how great a guy I am. So obviously the mix worked on D. What’s interesting though is that I happened to mention D to both Pheebs and my other coworker and they both talked me up to her like they were setting me up. Which I find really odd seeing as how they are both very interested in my marriage and that I stay married. I don’t know if by expressing any interest by mentioning her made them think that I wanted them to set me up. Yet that would also be well outside of their normal boundaries. Maybe I’m over thinking it. Maybe it’s all coincindence. I’m thinking about stopping by to see D later this week wearing just A314. This may not improve the situation. Perhaps I should ignore her instead and consider the testing complete. ---
**Author:** ![TheBoogieMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theboogieman/32/1136_2.png) [@TheBoogieMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheBoogieMan)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 10:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/223 "2011-01-11T22:59:37Z")
Yeah man you should definitely try the putatives in another scent. Maybe just get a to-go of one in something like [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) and see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/224 "2011-01-13T20:06:48Z")
> [@zest](#): > > I have some A1 on the way. What dosages have you been trying? Have you noticed any of the negatives? I have no clue. I believe 1 drop of full strength from A1 is 40 mcgs. I’m probably wrong. That’s what I have used. 1 drop. I haven’t hit the depression wall that comes along with A1. However I have tried higher doses and I did hit the antisocial not being able to speak wall. Seriously A1 at a high dose feels very heavy. This needs to be tested futher, however whenever I paired A1 at more than 1 drop with [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) at 7.5mcgs I never felt any of the negatives, but I also don’t see any difference between A1 at 1 drop and 2 drops. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 10:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/225 "2011-01-13T22:05:18Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > I have no clue. I believe 1 drop of full strength from A1 is 40 mcgs. I’m probably wrong. That’s what I have used. 1 drop. I haven’t hit the depression wall that comes along with A1. However I have tried higher doses and I did hit the antisocial not being able to speak wall. Seriously A1 at a high dose feels very heavy. > > This needs to be tested futher, however whenever I paired A1 at more than 1 drop with P93 at 7.5mcgs I never felt any of the negatives, but I also don’t see any difference between A1 at 1 drop and 2 drops. [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) and A1 together?! Yikes, for me that would put me in the fetal position in the corner. P93 has nasty side effects for me at moderate doses (~25mcgs!), and when I first started experimenting with mones the A1 in the dial bodywash put me in a sour mood. I didn’t even know why at the time until I read about it here. I can’t even imagine combining those two personally! ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 3:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/226 "2011-01-14T03:14:27Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > P93 and A1 together?! Yikes, for me that would put me in the fetal position in the corner. P93 has nasty side effects for me at moderate doses (~25mcgs!), and when I first started experimenting with mones the A1 in the dial bodywash put me in a sour mood. I didn’t even know why at the time until I read about it here. > > I can’t even imagine combining those two personally! I never took p93 that high. Highest I’ve gone is 15mcg. Never saw anything else out of p93 other than it’s help with the A1 downs. ---
**Author:** ![zest](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zest/32/1619_2.png) [@zest](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zest)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 3:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/227 "2011-01-14T03:18:10Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > Seriously A1 at a high dose feels very heavy. Thanks for the input. I think I’m going to start at 12.5 mcg/spray and work my way up. I seem to get more self effects from most things than the average person it seems. I’m going to be careful with this one. I still think it’s ironic what makes women happy makes us super depressed. Go figure. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 2:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/228 "2011-02-01T14:26:05Z")
OK so I still have the Split Androstenol mx’s to test. So I think I will dust my journal off and get on with testing it officially. **Thursday** **Initial application** : 1 spray MX384, covered by 2 sprays of Issey Miyake **Self effects:** Not sure. Maybe a little more emotional. I went to church. **Effects on others:** Well my wife seemed more cuddly and touchy feely. She also seemed a little more wide eyed and interested in what I had to say. Seemed to have an easier time connecting with strangers as well. Had a meeting with a church group that I’m getting involved in. Not sure what was hits because of mones and what wasn’t. The majority of the group has been hit by A314 before. In fact A314 may have been a help in me being asked to the meeting. I will continue testing. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 2:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/229 "2011-02-01T14:55:41Z")
Since I have been a part of this forum, I have learned quite a bit about subconcious human interactions. A314 has been a major player in helping me notice body language and nonverbal signals that I don’t always see. It has helped me change the way I view the world and myself. I have also spent quite a bit of time in books such as Intimate Communion and The Way of the Superior Man. Recently I joined a group called Men’s Fraternity-Quest for Authentic Manhood. This is a Christian group that studies societies view of men, societies view of the ideal man, and God’s original plan for man. It’s a good study so far. A few weeks ago I took my wife for a weekend away for the first time since we started having children. I guess it’s been 4 years. We went to a cabin in Tennessee. I took no mones with me. We got snowed in. There are a couple of things I noticed about myself and her interaction with me that I have not seen in a while. First of all it was my friends cabin and we were away from home. Immediately upon arriving she slipped into submission. It was interesting. It wasn’t head bowed, cowering submission. It was regal. She expected me to take care of her. She leaned on me for all of her needs. It actually got very cold there. I kept fires going and made sure she stayed warm in blankets. She gladly cooked for me and stayed cuddled up. We did manage to get down the mountain and into town. She stuck close by me keeping her arm looped in mine. We ended up eating at one of our favorite restaurants in the area. Walked in and got seated immediately. So my wife and I begin to have a light discussion about weather and people walking around. Then it moves into one of those deeper level conversations about my plans for our family in the future. At some point she begins to bring up a few things she doesn’t like about a project I’m working on. She begins to give her opinions, which I invite. They are in a different direction than what I have in mind so I let her know. So now she begins to argue with me about my project, a Christian website btw, and how it would make sense to run it through our church. She becomes adamant about her opinions. Normally I would get very angry and fight back. This time I didn’t. Instead I leaned back in the booth, tilted my head back, put my arm up on the back of the booth, and smiled while I listened to her. That’s the me I have been looking for. That’s the me that I missed. The me that is so confident that nothing ruffles my feathers. The me that has so much force behind his direction that he can not be deterred. We continued the discussion and I explained my reasonings to her. I never got upset or frustrated. I smiled the more upset she got. Finally I began to see her resolve fall away. Then I just poured out my love for her and thanked her for caring so much. Things have been slowly changing in our home every since. Not necessarily easier. Somehow I have gained more responsibility and more authority. I guess a cool head always wins in the end. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 10:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/230 "2011-02-01T22:29:37Z")
Great story my friend. Although I am going to guess you were in Gatlingberg or close by and didn’t even think to call your old buddy SteveO. I forgive yah, really I do…☹ ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/231 "2011-02-03T21:05:41Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Great story my friend. Although I am going to guess you were in Gatlingberg or close by and didn’t even think to call your old buddy SteveO. I forgive yah, really I do…☹ Yes I was in Gatlingburg. But 2 things. First, this was our first trip away from kids every, so I wasn’t calling anyone. Second, you live all the way in Memphis. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/232 "2011-02-04T17:07:07Z")
**Tuesday Initial application**: 1 spray MX385 at 8am to the forehead, covered by 2 sprays of very sexy **Self effects:** Didn’t really notice much. Noticed that I don’t like the smell of MX385 or MX384 for that matter. **Effects on others:** I don’t remember seeing much of a change in people. It was a regular workday. I don’t know if I noticed any more interactions then normal. **Wednesday** **Initial application** : 1 spray MX386 at 4pm to the forehead, covered by 2 sprays of very sexy **Self effects:** Really hate the smell of this one. It stinks **Effects on others:** I may have noticed an increase in nervousness with other people. Conversations seemed to happen with just a glance. Of course I was in a church setting for the majority of the interval. I went to a teen ministry to help out. I greeted the kdis at the door. Unfortunately I don’t know how they normally react yet. Some seemed to be nervous, but no one rejected a hug or handshake. Might have seen a slight increase in trust and acceptance by teens. When I initially checked in the lady behind the desk didn’t realize that I wasn’t a student. I’m 33 yrs old I don’t look like a teen anymore. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 5:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/233 "2011-02-04T17:09:00Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > Yes I was in Gatlingburg. But 2 things. First, this was our first trip away from kids every, so I wasn’t calling anyone. Second, you live all the way in Memphis. SO it was just you and the wife. Selfish man, selfish 😃 I could have been there in just 8 hours! Always thinking of yourself. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 5:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/234 "2011-02-04T17:23:03Z")
**Thurdsay** So I ordered TUTH for the first time. IJ has been my favorite -none commercial product to date. I have tried AMMO and wasn’t impressed. I ordered TUTH and got a free 30ml molecule K in [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) scent. Thanks AD. I’ve been wanting to try it. I sold the neroli version I had before I could get any good tests in. **Initial application** : So I did what we always tell people not to do. I sprayed on 1 TUTH to forehead, 2 drops of a314 rev 26 behind ears, and 1 spray os IS/B to forehead. This was at 11:30am. 🙂 **Self effects:** Ok so I have used rev 26 a314 a lot recently. I’m used to it’s effects. To me it seems to be more sexual then rev 23. I have tested IS/B in the past as well. I know women like it and guys aren’t sure what to do with it. I have combined a314 and IS/B before with good results from men and women. So when I started getting a head rush, changes in senses, and a “perspective” change I knew it was the TUTH. If anyone else has reported this, I never saw it. It was as powerful as the rush I get from IJ, but waaaayyyy more confusing. I felt like I was outside of my body. I would walk towards my goal, and automitically scan the area for threats or anything else. Honestly it reminded me of some of my p75 tests. Nothing I did felt natural until I removed it. Oh and my smile disappeared. **Effects on others:** No ghosting whatsoever. Well I don’t think there was. The problem is that for the most part I didn’t really notice people. Not in the sense that I didn’t know they were there. I had no real interest in engaging them. There was a 40 year old employee in the bookstore that I went to that seemed to be circling the section I was in for several moments. She wasn’t looking at me. She wasn’t helping anyone. She wasn’t doing anything, but she kept walking around in my area. There was a blonde that was headed my way in the same bookstore. Tall, HB7, short skirt, nice shoes, well put together. She probably thought she was a 9. I looked at her, and then went back to the book I was reading from one of the tables in the aisle. She walked past me and stopped at the same table to my left. I ignored her for some reason excpet to notice that she stopped. Then after at least 5 minutes I noticed that she hadn’t opened the book she was looking at. She had looked at the cover for 5 minutes. I glanced over to her again. She flipped the book over and began to study the back cover and I’m assuming she was reading about it. It was a fitness book btw. I’m counting it as a hit. She finally left after I began reading my book and ignoring her again. She never looked my way. I can’t understand the distancing that I felt. I had no desire to interact with anyone. That’s new to me. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 2:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/235 "2011-02-08T14:37:58Z")
\*\*Monday \*\ ***Initial application** : 1 spray MX387 to hair, cover scent of Issey Miyake. I need to note that MX387 smells 800 times better then the other bottles. I think I could wear it without a cover scent. **Self effects:** I felt something a bit different, but I’m not sure what it was. Maybe a bit more in tune? **Effects on others:** It seemed to be a good day. Everyone I talked to continued to conversate with me. Had a heart to heart talk with a coworker that is also a friend. We have been working together for the last 3 years and we discussed my relationship with management, how they view me, and my desire to stay here. Basically management loves me, but I don’t feel that way because I no longer want to work here. Was about a 20 minute sincere conversation. Not like we never have good talks, but we were both really too busy to take 20 mins and do that. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 2:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/236 "2011-02-08T14:50:45Z")
**Tuesday** **Initial application** : 2 sprays MX385 to hair at around 4:30pm **Self effects:** OK this gave me a self effect. Things seemed to slow down just a bit. I felt a little disassociation from my body. Kind of like I was moving a second behind. Then I felt an increase in sensitivity in my skin. Everything seemed more sensual. I got a tingling in my lips and scalp. **Effects on others:** I sprayed on right before going into the groccery store. The female workers there lit up. Smiles, big eyes, and hellos. I’m used to some attention from the women at this store now. The poor ladies have been hit with a lot. But they still responded. The older male cashier did not respond the same way. At first he was happy and in a good mood. Then as he was ringing up the bill he began to become uneasy or even agitated according to his body language. The tone in his voice became more constricted. He faced away from me and stopped looking in my direction. When I got home, my wife was looking incredible. She always looks good. She was wearing new clothes, so I can’t tell if it was the effect of the mones on me or the fact that she just looked fantastic. My youngest child was a little hesitant to come to me. He had just woken up before I came in. Normally he runs to me. He still came to me, but he paused a few times. Later that evening we got together with a large group of couples for dinner and some socializing. It was an easy atmosphere to mingle even though we only knew a few people. I found it very easy to move through smaller social groups and meet people. The people that I met were very interested in what I do for a living. I was very interested in everything the had to say also. It seems that the MX may have also made me more receptive. We got home late and I showered and washed the stuff out of my hair. I went to sleep at around 10:30pm. My wife finally joined me after 12am. I know this because she woke me up. Let’s just say that the skin sensitivity was very real and had not yet gone away. It was a great ending for the night for both of us. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/237 "2011-02-08T16:50:16Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > **Tuesday** > **Initial application** : 2 sprays MX385 to hair at around 4:30pm > **Self effects:** OK this gave me a self effect. Things seemed to slow down just a bit. I felt a little disassociation from my body. Kind of like I was moving a second behind. Then I felt an increase in sensitivity in my skin. Everything seemed more sensual. I got a tingling in my lips and scalp. > > **Effects on others:** I sprayed on right before going into the groccery store. The female workers there lit up. Smiles, big eyes, and hellos. I’m used to some attention from the women at this store now. The poor ladies have been hit with a lot. But they still responded. The older male cashier did not respond the same way. At first he was happy and in a good mood. Then as he was ringing up the bill he began to become uneasy or even agitated according to his body language. The tone in his voice became more constricted. He faced away from me and stopped looking in my direction. > > When I got home, my wife was looking incredible. She always looks good. She was wearing new clothes, so I can’t tell if it was the effect of the mones on me or the fact that she just looked fantastic. My youngest child was a little hesitant to come to me. He had just woken up before I came in. Normally he runs to me. He still came to me, but he paused a few times. > > Later that evening we got together with a large group of couples for dinner and some socializing. It was an easy atmosphere to mingle even though we only knew a few people. I found it very easy to move through smaller social groups and meet people. The people that I met were very interested in what I do for a living. I was very interested in everything the had to say also. It seems that the MX may have also made me more receptive. > > We got home late and I showered and washed the stuff out of my hair. I went to sleep at around 10:30pm. My wife finally joined me after 12am. I know this because she woke me up. Let’s just say that the skin sensitivity was very real and had not yet gone away. It was a great ending for the night for both of us. JW, This is part of the -nol pack right? How’s the scent for you? How did your wife react to the natural mone scent of the Androstenol? ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/238 "2011-02-09T20:06:25Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > JW, > > This is part of the -nol pack right? > > How’s the scent for you? How did your wife react to the natural mone scent of the Androstenol? Yep sure is. I don’t like the scent. It smells sickly or something. I cover it. ☹ My wife doesn’t notice it when it’s covered, but uncovered I want to throw up. With the excpetion of MX387. That one is much lighter. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2011, 8:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/239 "2011-02-09T20:33:22Z")
Ok before I forget. Up until about 1 hr ago I was wearing 2 drops of a314 rev 26. I was having a normal rev 26 day. Lots of smiles from ladies, some hair play, passionate about getting work done. Actually passionate about everything. Men for some reason just want to be more friendly, however I lose the absolute Alpha edge. Instead I have to compensate with body language and tone. I also tend to be more friendly and joke more. Now about 1 hr ago I sprayed on 10mcg of [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) scented molecule K to my forehead. I have tested TAK before. I can’t remember what I tested it with. I do not remember a self effect before now. However I am definitely having a strong sef effect now. First off the stuff smells fantastic. I feel like a cat with catnip. I actually feel a bit high. I am extremely social. I am finding it easy to balance every issue that comes my way and put it to rest without so much as a sweat. My communication is also definitely better. But most importantly, it feels awesome. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 2:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/240 "2011-02-15T14:48:44Z")
TUTH is pretty amazing as long as you don’t wear it to a marriage conference. sigh… Took my wife to a marriage conference this past weekend. Got some great insight into the female mind. Also dealt with some issues that I didn’t realize were issues. There were some 400 couples there so it was a pretty large conference. Had fun the entire time. The couples speaking are hilarious. The thing is, I was playing around with TUTH Thursday early afternoon. Only one spray. We went to the conference about 4-5 hours later. I thought we were just regestering. I didn’t realize that we would have a session that night. Plus my wife was on the end of her cycle so I added about 40 mcg of A1 too. The other problem was that I forgot that I had added mones at all when I got to the place. So I kept having these odd conversations with some of the guys there. They were all puffed up and sometimes arrogant. Some of the people I knew kept giving me weird looks. It was about an hour or 2 later that I realized what was going on when my wife kept being so affectionate and other women around me kept looking at me. Ok talk about feeling awful. I’m there in a group of people who want to make the best of their marriages and I’m attracting several women in my vicinity. I didn’t wear any mones the next day, but the residual effects were still there. We had an unexplained popularity boost with all of the couples there. I wonder if any of the guys got lucky that night because of my mones. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337.md?page=11) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337.md?page=13)