# Rise of an Alpha **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [July 27, 2010, 2:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337 "2010-07-27T14:56:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 3:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/281 "2011-03-16T15:27:53Z")
Can’t leave this thread for a moment without you wiseguys acting up. 🙂 So I didn’t get much exposure for MXJW1 yesterday. I had an interview this morning. I decided on 1 drop of a314 rev 23 and 4 sprays of MXJW1 sans -none. So I wasn’t expecting the intimidation factor. The recruiter that I interviewed with was definitely intimidated. I almost got worried that I came off too strong. 1 drop of a314 usually doesn’t cause me this much of a problem. Maybe my body language was off. At some point I changed the atmosphere and transition to more relaxed by telling a story. I told a few jokes and the guy started telling me about his family and upbringing. Nice bonding moment. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/282 "2011-03-16T17:35:53Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > Can’t leave this thread for a moment without you wiseguys acting up. 🙂 > > So I didn’t get much exposure for MXJW1 yesterday. I had an interview this morning. I decided on 1 drop of a314 rev 23 and 4 sprays of MXJW1 sans -none. So I wasn’t expecting the intimidation factor. The recruiter that I interviewed with was definitely intimidated. I almost got worried that I came off too strong. 1 drop of a314 usually doesn’t cause me this much of a problem. Maybe my body language was off. At some point I changed the atmosphere and transition to more relaxed by telling a story. I told a few jokes and the guy started telling me about his family and upbringing. Nice bonding moment. But what were you wearing? ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 5:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/283 "2011-03-16T17:52:02Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > But what were you wearing? Funny guy. I was wearing jeans and a long sleeve polo yesterday. Today I am wearing navy slacks, black shoes and belt to keep it dressy, a blue and white vertical striped dress shirt, and black Kenneth Cole watch. I’m noticing more of the intimidation factor as I go through out the day. Men seem completely unsure of what to do. I’m not wearing any -none today so I’m wondering which molecule is doing this. I went to Home Depot for a moment to get a vegetable planting sheet and got more head snaps. My clothing could be part of it, since it’s a home improvement warehouse. Women are glancing over there shoulders and watching me walk by. Some talk to me. Those that do go into consistent hair play, with coy smiles, and glances. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 10:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/284 "2011-03-16T22:03:52Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > Ok I feel like musing and thinking out loud. You guys chime in when you see an opening. When Steve was explaining P96 in his report he mentioned P96 beings like glue and went on to explain his theory of highs and lows of molecules in a mix. Basically something like -none would a base at say a number 7, while other molecules say TAA would be a number 1, and other molecules would feel in the middle. So each molecule would be on each other creating a good mix, but you couldn’t jump from a 7 to a 1 successfully without something to fill in the gaps. He thinks that P96 helps to fill in the gaps. I agree. > > So I started thinking about the M3 model based on something I read from Radman and something else I read from Warren recently. I also remember both Jasmin and Trisha discussing molecule weights and distribution. Androstenone being extremely heavy. Perhaps that’s why Steve gave it a heavier number, it appears as a foundation. So based on the M3 model and molecule weight, the lightest mones would be for attraction, the next set would be for comfort, and the heaviest would be seduction. My thought is that since lighter molecules travel faster and farther they would be more likely to attract. As you get closer you would need to be come more comfortable, and when you are really close then you can be seduced. > > Some mixes literally pull people across the room. I think it’s because when they are built, they are built with that theory in mind. Some mixes seem to attract well, but then instantly repels when a person gets close enough causing a lot of push and pull. > > So here goes my theory, mones that have the ability to cause OD can be pushers or seducers based on the amount used and what they are used with. So here is my theory: > > Base (seducers) > P75 > Androstenone > P93 > Androsterone > > Bonding molecules (comfort) > TAC > P74 > P76 > P102 > P130 > A1 > > Social and attraction: > > TAF > P79 > TAA > Anol > Bnol > > Then there are a few molecules that seem to trascend or fill the gap. They seem to have multiple capabilities. > > Such as: > P96 > P75 ( I include this one because I believe it also acts as an attractant) > P83 ( I think p83 is a light molecule. I have read and seen it attract from across the room. It creates a velcro effect and it’s ability to disinhibit sexual desires is probably due to comfort. It’s definitely an effective seducer) > P86 ( I have never tested, but I believe based on what I have read that it is both an attractant and comfort mone) > > So based on what my understanding of the M3 model is, a good mix would need just a little attractant and social to get attention, heavy comfort molecules, and a small amount of seduction molecules. > > There is one molecule that throws me off. That molecule is TAK. I can’t tell where it fits. It appears to be rather heavy, causes comfort, but seems to be attractive too. So maybe it goes into the same category as the fillers. Then there is TAC. TAC seems to be rather heavy also. Has anyone done any extensive tests with TAC by itself or without -none? > > Obviously these aren’t all of the molecules, just the one’s I’ve tested enough to know a little about. I like what you are getting out of that post. Right on about my initial observations. I am actually formulating it a bit more by attempting to assign a number to each item. It’s a bit difficult not knowing what they actually are, but I think it can serve the community well when its done. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 10:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/285 "2011-03-16T22:06:27Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > I was being more facetious lol I heard, through the grapevine, they didn’t like you and wanted to bring you down a notch. They basically called you some type of trouble maker. It’s OK though P51, I was left in the cold too 🙂. At least they didn’t call me names like they did you though. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2011, 2:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/286 "2011-03-19T14:57:40Z")
So I wore 4 sprays of MXS to the forearms yesterday. Hmm… not sure about hits. I did have one chick that’s a guard here talk to me for a while. She just kept wanting to talk. I was in hardcare work mode yesterday, and didn’t see much else. I did run into Barnes and Noble to look up a book. Ended up sitting down for several minutes, but didn’t notice anything. I took a shower last night and have used lotio on my forearms twice, and I can still smell this stuff. Man it’s like I can’t get it off. I wonder if the mones are still there. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/287 "2011-03-19T15:49:36Z")
Hmm… I missed Thursday’s post too. Thursday was 4 sprays of MXJW1 with 5mcg’s of -none. Was a pretty busy day. Actually I noticed my desire to be completely involved with whatever I was doing. I’m sitting in a new building for a while. I had 2 black ladies drop by and say hi. Quick conversation with an air of friendly flirtation Went to lunch with a friend of mine. He and I had a great conversation. Just really open. A lot of mirroring. The waitress originally paying him more attention, but after the second time she came by all eyes were on me. She started to flirt a little. I gave her some crap about something and she was huge smiles. Appears to be a friendly mix. Not sure about what happened when I wore it with A314. It seemed to intensify the status when I wore it with a314. So here are the numbers for those that care. p74 .75 mcg/spray p102 2.65 mcg/spray tak .3 mcg/spray tac 1.51 mcg/spray taa .94 mcg/spray bnol 1.13 mcg/spray p83 1.89 mcg/spray I added 2.5 mcg/spray of -none per 2 sprays of the mix. I’m not happy with the amount of p83 in the mix. I think it needs to go up. I do notice some of the tak effects even at this amount which is interesting. I need to test P102 on it’s own more so that I have a better feel for it. I will continue to toy with this and a few other ideas. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/288 "2011-03-28T20:24:57Z")
Monday Yea baby!!! 2 drops of a314, 10mcg of p74, 12 mcg of anol, 10 mcg bnol Venue: 1 hour interview This was golden. Me and 2 VP’s in the room. They are both self made millionaires from businesses they have owned in the past. I not only held my own, but built rappor quickly and began leading. They were impressed, using words like “high-caliber candidate” when describing me. It got to the point that if one would ask a question, the other would answer positively for me, unless I spoke up. It was ridiculous. Don’t get me wrong, I did study their body language. I was very honest. I didn’t over sell myself. But they did sell their company to me. I did end up interviewing them, which I think is important in an interview. They brought in the manager I would be working for. He wasn’t suppose to interview me until a second interview. Things went ultra smooth with him. I actually got some great vibes from him. You should have seen the body language moving, me mirroring this guy, then the other guy, then me leading. It was like dance. Yet it was very genuine. I think I may actually be able to trust them. After the interview I went to grab some coffee. This is my second time at this place. I wore some 10mcg -none with heavy TAC and [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) the last time I was there. There is a barista there that cannot be ignored. She wears the best jeans. Anyway, I walk in and I’m still wearing my suit but no tie. She doesn’t pay me much attention at first, she has a customer at the window. She comes over and I start asking her for a bagel and a coffee like the last time I was there but sweeter. She grabs her pony tail and gives it a little tug then runs her hands down her hair. I’m ignoring all of this. She starts rubbing her neck and tells me she can make it sweeter. I say ok thanks. She rings up my bagel, and then asks me what I want to drink again. So I calmly without showing any signs of mirth tell her again. She like oh yea. The chick is sucking me into her soul with her eyes. It was like in the movies when girls fall in love with the local jock. I give her a small smile and she returns it greatfully. She moves off and makes my coffee glancing at me every once in a while with that full deep look. You know the one that says “Wow you’re hot!”. This wasn’t lust, this wasn’t DIHL, this was fairytale land. I felt good giving her that moment. I hope she enjoyed it. LOL ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 9:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/289 "2011-03-28T21:34:06Z")
So you got the job and the girl (proverbially of course for the girl) ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 10:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/290 "2011-03-28T22:14:46Z")
Just what type of jeans are the perfect jeans? Great report. Congratulations on the interview. Lets just hope that mgr didn’t feel threatened by your alpha high-caliber candidate vibe. It happened to me right before I took the job for Terminex. I really wanted that other job too. It was just perfect for me and they called in the mgr too. Two weeks later they sent me a form letter. I just knew that guy couldn’t handle my vibe. By that time I had gotten a better job at Terminex anyway as one of several Director of Sales. Second day into that Job, Jasmin hired me. Things always have a way of working out in the end for the best. Remember that whatever happens its all going to be all right 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 12:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/291 "2011-03-29T12:15:33Z")
Perfect jeans? Well perfect jeans is what I used to sell on my website, however these were very impressive. Meaning they fit her just right and had the right highlights in the right areas. Women have a hard time finding jeans that match their body just right. This chick had jeans that fit her perfectly. Didn’t think about the manager issue. Hoping that the [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) helped with that. I hope I didn’t over do it. I ended up interviewing the manager… It was a great interview though. If I were selling something I would have walked out with contracts. This is partially a sales support position, so I would use it again for this job. So what you are saying is that Jasmin is going to hire me? ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 9:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/292 "2011-03-29T21:15:13Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > Perfect jeans? Well perfect jeans is what I used to sell on my website, however these were very impressive. Meaning they fit her just right and had the right highlights in the right areas. Women have a hard time finding jeans that match their body just right. This chick had jeans that fit her perfectly. > > Didn’t think about the manager issue. Hoping that the P74 helped with that. I hope I didn’t over do it. I ended up interviewing the manager… > It was a great interview though. If I were selling something I would have walked out with contracts. This is partially a sales support position, so I would use it again for this job. > > So what you are saying is that Jasmin is going to hire me? I know those jeans very, very well. Every once in a while you’ll see a pair and wonder if they were custom fit to her body. Then all the while you’re thinking just how perfect they are on her, they would even be more perfect crumpled up in a heap on the floor by your bed 🙂. Yeah I really do think like that. Onto a more serious note though: what happened to your store? It’s none of my business and I’ll understand if you don’t want to post it or PM or whatever, but I do not recall reading anything about it. Last I heard you were going wholesale. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 1:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/293 "2011-03-30T13:36:19Z")
Yesterday I wore 20 mcg of -none, 50 mcg p83, 25 mcg of anol, and 10 mcg of TAC applied at 9am. Hmm… At work things were normal enough. I could sense a little discomfort from some people. Certainly no one wanted me behind them. But good social interaction. Spent most of my time with males. A lot of people wanted to talk to me as I let them know that Thursday is my last day. 4:30pm On the way home I stopped to get a card for my wife at the grocery store. Sigh… I have hit these girls with a lot of mones. They tend to enjoy the flirting and leave it at that, but there is this one 24 year old blonde that seems to be smitten with me. I’ve mentioned before that she has pretended to be my “girlfriend” while I was talking to my wife on the phone. Well I have been trying to cool it with her lately. Most days when I go in she isn’t there. But today she was and she was the only line open. You should have seen the body posture shift. From standing up straight and being professional to creating angles with her skinny frame to give the illusion of hips. But mostly she works her eyes, her neck, and chin. I think I mentioned something to her that should have been a professional statement, but her response was “I’m too much of a bad girl for that” and she bit her lip and gave me a side glance. Every time she spoke to me she would go up on her toes and lean across the register to about a foot away to say it. I’m sure this was observed by the whole store. I tried to ignore her, but come on. I don’t know what I ended the conversation with, I was just buying a card for my wife, but I had to get out of there. I think I told her that she has to stop this, which of course made her laugh and encouraged her more. This chick was oozing ‘Fuck me’ out of her cell in her body. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 1:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/294 "2011-03-30T13:55:21Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > Yesterday I wore > > 20 mcg of -none, 50 mcg p83, 25 mcg of anol, and 10 mcg of TAC applied at 9am. > > Hmm… At work things were normal enough. I could sense a little discomfort from some people. Certainly no one wanted me behind them. But good social interaction. Spent most of my time with males. A lot of people wanted to talk to me as I let them know that Thursday is my last day. > > 4:30pm > > On the way home I stopped to get a card for my wife at the grocery store. Sigh… I have hit these girls with a lot of mones. They tend to enjoy the flirting and leave it at that, but there is this one 24 year old blonde that seems to be smitten with me. I’ve mentioned before that she has pretended to be my “girlfriend” while I was talking to my wife on the phone. Well I have been trying to cool it with her lately. Most days when I go in she isn’t there. But today she was and she was the only line open. You should have seen the body posture shift. From standing up straight and being professional to creating angles with her skinny frame to give the illusion of hips. But mostly she works her eyes, her neck, and chin. I think I mentioned something to her that should have been a professional statement, but her response was “I’m too much of a bad girl for that” and she bit her lip and gave me a side glance. Every time she spoke to me she would go up on her toes and lean across the register to about a foot away to say it. I’m sure this was observed by the whole store. I tried to ignore her, but come on. I don’t know what I ended the conversation with, I was just buying a card for my wife, but I had to get out of there. I think I told her that she has to stop this, which of course made her laugh and encouraged her more. This chick was oozing ‘Fuck me’ out of her cell in her body. You are a good man JosieW. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 2:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/295 "2011-03-30T14:20:16Z")
Wednesday 20 mcg of -none (which is probably a bad idea since i wore it yesterday), 5 drops of a314 rev 25, 10 mcg of p74 (which is probably not needed), 10 mcg of TAC, 25 mcg of anol, 50 mcg of p83 Went to see my new favorite barista this morning. I need to start my jean line up again. This chick would sell anything I put on her. I come in and she lights up. Seriously I love the smile that came across her face. I’m dressed nice today with a leather jacket, black pants, black and white striped shirt. She pulls her pony tail and runs her fingers through it while watching me. She asked how I was doing, and we start talking. Apparently we have moved into the comfort stage a bit. We talk about the wonderful weather (it’s pouring raining) She takes my order. I think this chick has some good body language intuition, or maybe something in A314 helps to heighten that. She watched me very carefully while I talked. She does the head tilted slightly down thing with her eyes looking up and a coy smile on her face. While i was ordering several cute teeny boppers came in. I’m guessing they are at least 18 since it was school hours, but I could be wrong. When I got my order I turned around and looked at the teenagers. Every one of them had been quiet since they got near me although they were talkative coming into the door. Everyone of them had huge pupils. Who knows what was happening in their minds. I’m getting solid respect hits here at work, with attention from females as well. I don’t normally work here, but I’ve been here all week. This is the most positive female attention I’ve gotten since I’ve been here, but all from younger women. Older women just seem to be more accomodating. Younger women turn completely around in their cubes when I walk by. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 11:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/296 "2011-04-03T23:19:19Z")
Pulled out the MXJW1 mix today 8 sprays and no -none We were headed to an outside ice cream shop and I hadn’t worn mones all day. So I began to notice some changes in my wife’s demeanor. She was being very agreeable. The teenager from across the street came with us. Her mom had a pleasant convo with us while we were in the car waiting for her. When we got to the ice cream place my wife was being affectionate. Even wanted to sit in my lap. That doesn’t happen much in public. I noticed some attractive latina’s there that kept their eyes on me. The wind was blowing my trail right towards them. When they left both of them turned their heads towards me and looked at me as they walked by. Their men seemed indifferent. A hot mom showed up with her son and husband. I caught her looking a few times too. Just a quick report. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 1:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/297 "2011-04-08T01:44:00Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > Pulled out the MXJW1 mix today 8 sprays and no -none > We were headed to an outside ice cream shop and I hadn’t worn mones all day. > So I began to notice some changes in my wife’s demeanor. She was being very agreeable. The teenager from across the street came with us. Her mom had a pleasant convo with us while we were in the car waiting for her. When we got to the ice cream place my wife was being affectionate. Even wanted to sit in my lap. That doesn’t happen much in public. I noticed some attractive latina’s there that kept their eyes on me. The wind was blowing my trail right towards them. When they left both of them turned their heads towards me and looked at me as they walked by. Their men seemed indifferent. A hot mom showed up with her son and husband. I caught her looking a few times too. Just a quick report. Probably to busy with the wife on your lap 😉 ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/298 "2011-04-13T16:16:03Z")
Haven’t seen ya around. Wondering how it turned out for that position you were interviewing for. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 12:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/299 "2011-04-15T00:28:23Z")
I was wondering the same thing myself. Where yah been ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/300 "2011-05-19T19:48:47Z")
How ya doing, Josie? Been missing your posts. I hope your fine… ☹ Wishin’ you well, my friend!! [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337.md?page=14) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337.md?page=16)