# Rise of an Alpha

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [July 27, 2010, 2:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337 "2010-07-27T14:56:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/301 "2011-10-13T19:30:13Z")

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Ground Control to JosieW.  
Can you hear me JosieW, your circuits dead, there’s something wrong  
Can you hear me JosieW  
Can you hear me JosieW  
Can you hear me JosieW

https://www.youtube.com/embed/D67kmFzSh_o?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 7:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/302 "2011-10-13T19:57:51Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
>
> Ground Control to JosieW.  
> Can you hear me JosieW, your circuits dead, there’s something wrong  
> Can you hear me JosieW  
> Can you hear me JosieW  
> Can you hear me JosieW
> 
> [David Bowie- Space Oddity Original Video (1969) - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D67kmFzSh_o)

🙂 what’s up Steve?  
I’m ok. Just living through life’s unexpected mishaps. I put Mone’s down back in April. Threw them all away actually except for some a1, which coincidentally I wore for the first time yesterday. And sure enough I got hits. I even got velcro from effect several ppl. Seems to work best with teens. They won’t stop talking.

I haven’t worn mones in a while and really haven’t needed to. I don’t know what changed, but something did. I took this new job in a small town and things have been crazy. Lot’s of respect hits, lots of trust hits, and women sending me interesting texts, emails, and other stuff. Maybe one day I will get into details. All I know is the effects that I got from wearing mones haven’t gone away for the most part. Not sure if my body language has changed or my chemical make up has changed, but something changed.

I’ve also learned a lot about my wife in the past 6 months. A lot about women in general. Maybe I will go into details some day. 🙄 But I have found that the number one ingredient women look for is authenticity. That’s a game changer.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/303 "2011-10-13T20:22:36Z")

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> [@JosieW](#):
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> 🙂 what’s up Steve?  
> I’m ok. Just living through life’s unexpected mishaps. I put Mone’s down back in April. Threw them all away actually except for some a1, which coincidentally I wore for the first time yesterday. And sure enough I got hits. I even got velcro from effect several ppl. Seems to work best with teens. They won’t stop talking.
> 
> I haven’t worn mones in a while and really haven’t needed to. I don’t know what changed, but something did. I took this new job in a small town and things have been crazy. Lot’s of respect hits, lots of trust hits, and women sending me interesting texts, emails, and other stuff. Maybe one day I will get into details. All I know is the effects that I got from wearing mones haven’t gone away for the most part. Not sure if my body language has changed or my chemical make up has changed, but something changed.
> 
> I’ve also learned a lot about my wife in the past 6 months. A lot about women in general. Maybe I will go into details some day. 🙄 But I have found that the number one ingredient women look for is authenticity. That’s a game changer.

That’s AWESOME to read and very happy for yah. I think people can get caught up in the mones more than they tend to realize that its mostly them. What happens for many of us, it certainly sounds as if it did for you 🙂, is that we see the potential in ourselves. Some of us however only see this as an extension of the mones and NOT of themselves. They therefore rely on the mones to get them the same results. There are others, myself included, know that the mones are only powered by my own intentions. Without me as the catalyst to push the mones even further and thus myself, the mones are only a tool. No hands, no creativity.

I do believe though that with patience and the building of self-confidence the ones who don’t believe they can do it without the mones will eventually see they can. It might simply take a missed opportunity to wear the mones, perhaps they just forgot to apply, and then they get the same results.

I have a friend, Garrison Cohen, who started an entire program to being authentic. Unfortunately many guys in the whole PUA scene get caught up believing you need to be Style or Mystery to make it work. The truth is rather that those people created an image around their genuine selves and as such brought out their own authentic self-image. That’s why Style and Mystery might use similar techniques, but ultimately when you get them, you get them. To many kids are attempting to be carbon-copies.

I’m sure glad you found your authentic self and wish you continued success in life and all your endeavors. However you are still a part of this community and because you might not use mones as much as you did, doesn’t mean you get to just go away 🙂.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/304 "2011-10-13T20:50:04Z")

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You should still hang around though. I learned a lot through your inputs and missed our conversations.

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/305 "2011-10-14T20:26:22Z")

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I echo P51’s sentiment, Josie. I enjoy reading up on your insight and thought provoking commentary. Though you’ve put the mones down for a bit, do make some time to post up what you’ve been up to.

Wish you and your wife the best!

> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> You should still hang around though. I learned a lot through your inputs and missed our conversations.

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2015, 1:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/306 "2015-09-19T01:00:24Z")

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Guess it’s time to blow the dust off of this thing. I have [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/), P94, TAA, and TAH on the way. Let’s get back to testing.

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/307 "2015-09-23T19:04:46Z")

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10mcg None  
5mcg Erone  
1mcg A1  
1mcg Nol

So I’m in a bar and it’s early afternoon. Don’t judge me. This is where I come to complete paperwork for the end of the day before heading home. Anyway I put on the above mix before walking into the door. There are 3 different female bartenders here. I never know which one is working. The one here today is not used to any pheromone sig from me. However, she has been very flirtatious from the first time I met her and she has even grabbed my cock twice. She’s 40, blonde, formal lawyer that screwed up her life.

So I walk in and the place is empty. I set up shop like I normally do. She sees me from the restaurant side and yells my name and comes over to hug me. First time that has happened. she gives me a good squeeze and starts telling me how great I look. So everything is relatively normal other than my overly boisterous and cocky attitude.

The real hit is when the other bartender shows up to check her hours. Shes short dark haired girl with an amazing body just turned 22. Not much from her before today. She sees me from the other room, about 10 ft, and says hi. Then she walks into the bar side and comes to me with arms wide and gives me a huge full body hug. That was a hit. Never happened. not even a touch before now. Then she goes to the bathroom and comes right back out and touches my back saying goodbye. She heads to the restaurant side and keeps glancing at me for a minute before leaving.

So I’m wearing reagent grade mones from LS, with no cover. I’m sure they aren’t diffusing that well.

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 9:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/308 "2015-09-25T21:24:05Z")

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A314 Naturelle v1 1 drop

So yesterday I went to my normal bar to finish some work while having an old fashioned and smoking my pipe. I put on a drop of A314 about 30 minutes prior. I had used A1 earlier that day and have no clue what the residuals were like. l didn’t notice any self effects, which is one of the things I loved about rev 23. Upon arriving at the bar, I got my normal welcome and sat at my usual table. The first bartender (40 year old brown hair) is already really into me and enter my space to talk to me and give me my drink. When the second bartender a 22 year old dark brunette arrived the first bartender showed signs of jealousy and apparently even told the other bartender that I didn’t need anything else and to leave me alone. I know this because the 22 year old told me later.

Now the 22 year old began giving me some flirtatious, albeit silly, faces whenever she walked by. She also found a few excuses to enter my space and talk to me and touch me. This is two days now of new behavior. I’m shocked because I expected the A314 to make her hesitate and it didnt.

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 9:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/309 "2015-09-25T21:31:38Z")

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A314 Naturelle v1 1 drop jaw line, plus essential oil mix.

OK, this is definitely not the same mix as rev 23. This mix reminds me more of rev 25. I am not seeing the high status effect that I am expecting. This seems to be more of a young successful professional. It’s far more approachable. Today I put it on and drove for two hours to a company meeting. I forgot I was wearing it at first until I noticed that people wouldn’t let go of me when I shook their hands. Several times I had to use my left hand to remove my right hand from someone. These were all men. There was no sense of awe. Everyone was happy to speak with me, but I got the feeling I was a new star player. Like everyone was proud of me. It’s hard to explain. There were only 3 women in the group and they all ended up with me for the company activity, but I didn’t notice anything that looked like hits.

I think the most noticeable thing is when I used to wear rev 23, I always knew I was wearing it. It felt obvious to me. Most of the day I forgot I was wearing pheromones.

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2015, 1:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/310 "2015-09-27T01:27:21Z")

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a314 Naturelle v1 2 drops to jawline. Covered with essential oil shaving mix.

Most of the day was around my wife and kids. Not seeing much in reactions. Went to the store and also didn’t notice anything… and I was looking hard.

I think I’m going to move the application point to avoid the essential oil mix. I’m concerned that the essential oils may be slowing down the pheromone release. That’s what I hope is happening. I will try two drops again tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 1:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/311 "2015-09-28T13:01:42Z")

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So I tested again yesterday with no essential oil cover.  
1 drop. Naturelle v1  
Application point throat  
Venues: Church, grocery store, and home

I am noticing that this oil stays wet longer than my essential oils. I had to smear it around more so as not to have this glaring wet spot.

We are definitely missing something in this molecule. I’m actually thinking that the None may have been lowered. I have noticed a slight self effect; the desire to be the life of the party or at least in the middle of it. It’s definitely more social than I was expecting. Still no intimidation effect at 1 drop. I actually had someone cut in front of me in a long line. (I’m 6’2" and 220lbs.) That doesn’t happen to me without mones. That was odd. I am also not getting attention from strangers. I’m very used to that with and without mones, especially from older versions of Alpha.

The grocery store experience was very normal. I ran into someone that I know and I felt like being clever and witty. (I can be this way, but it’s not a normal trend) Didn’t see anything peculiar with strangers in respect to me.

I am noticing that my wife is becoming much more of a jokester and witty with me towards the end of the day as well. This used to be her personality, but this has not been the norm for years. My daughter who is still young did request several hugs yesterday.

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 1:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/312 "2015-09-28T13:04:08Z")

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2 drops of A314 Naturelle to throat again this morning no cover  
I noticed a self effect today. The desire to get moving and get things done. This could be because of some natural desire to resolve some issues today, however it feels a bit more aggressive.

I have some major business meetings today, so we will see if this oil hinders or improves those meetings.

Got some rapport. Seemed to have some team building effects. Saw some mirroring from those sitting closest to me in meetings. The inherent property of A314 to smooth things over is still there. So if I am too bold, as a I was some yesterday, or my edges are too rough, then it’s ok. That is inherently and alpha trait. The problem is, that’s hard to actually describe or report well. But that’s the oil for life that I do love about this product. However at 2 drops I should have seen some preferential treatment and even intimidation. That didn’t happen. So this version of alpha is not a bully. Not that I want a bully, I’m used to having to tone it down. However, I want the option of toning it down. I want preferential treatment. My past use of this product was in a role that did require more intimidation. My current role requires this product to be more inviting, so that works out great for me, but what about everyone else? I also feel like I have to work this product. I especially miss the ability to relax and let the mones do all of the work.

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 5:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/313 "2015-09-29T17:08:33Z")

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3 drops A314 mixed with personal EO aftershave mix  
jawline  
self effects: I thought there were none until I opened my mouth and spoke. Solid drop in octave. A beautiful baritone. How I love the sound. I did have some edginess in the beginning hour of the mix. This settled down into an excitement to do something and then a calm assurance.

Effect on others: Still not the lion in the room, however the preferential treatment, the space, the influence is all there. Still no intimidation, but this is easily persuasive. I think at 3 drops this is a good stand alone.

Had a great meeting today. The actual meeting itself should have sucked since the customer already made a decision and purchased a different product, but the customer had a desire to make it up to me. I wasn’t just a salesman. I have worked hard on that image with this customer on my own, but it was solid today. Today I was a wise consultant.

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 9:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/314 "2015-09-30T21:14:05Z")

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4 drops to jawline with EO aftershave mix.

Self effects: edginess. desire to get some things done.

Effect on others:

Women

I got several hits from younger women today. They were friendly. One of the female cashiers at our local grocery store hugged me when I was walking out and she was walking in. That’s new. I had a lot of brushing me with boobs happening with two women that I know. One is in 40’s the other is late 20’s.

The woman in her 40’s, bartender, seems to have lost her filter. She had a lot of sexual talk today in front of others. Usually she is more discrete. She also exhibited signs of confusion on multiple occasions. That used to happen with 2 drops of A314 rev 29.

I got hits from another girl either in early 20’s at walmart while I was glancing through music. Yes I still buy CD’s. She looked at me when I first came over. Then while I was standing on the other side of the display, she gave me one of those long ‘who are you’ looks over the top of the display. I looked her in the eyes while she did it. Then her mom showed up and took her away. 😕

I went to the bookstore had some out of the ordinary walking back and forth near me encounters, but the big one was the pussy flash that I got. Yes, you read that right. She was a college student wearing a tanktop, and running shorts with no panties. I thought it was an accident at first too. When I first saw her she was sitting leaning forward with her feet on the floor. When I came back by her, I glanced over and her feet were flat in the seat with her arms around her knees, and her legs spread and her pussy showing, not peaking out of her shorts. I looked, then I looked her in the eyes, because she was looking at me. I looked again and looked into her face. She didn’t move to put her feet down or close her legs. I had to go. It could have been a coincidence…

Effects on men:

They want to talk. Want to tell me about what they do. Want to know what I do. Want to tell me how hard their jobs are. It was somewhat amusing.

Sexual:

Appears to be more sexual over 3 drops

Conclusion:

This seems like a decent product at 3 drops, but it’s horribly missing the intimidation and the commanding nature that I know and love. No one is trying to please me. MIght be a great business social, but it’s not what it used to be.

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 5:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/315 "2015-10-02T17:05:01Z")

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I went to a technology conference yesterday. Went with another mix and left the A314 at home.

It’s my first time using a commercial mix not made by Androtics. I’m supposed to be testing TAH, but I’m going to play around with this first.

It contains: Androsterone, A1, Androstenone, Bnol, Androstanone, DHEA, aNol, epi erone, allo-thdoc, and EST.

There were some immediate self effects. Face twitch, head rush, tingling, and cockiness.

At the conference, I was greeted by a guy in his 20’s to register. He was friendly and smiling; as I got closer I could see that change to nervousness. A little stumbling over words. not sure where to look. Yes, these are the effects that I had become used to in A314. I went into the conference and was immediately greated by the beautiful blonde that I haven’t seen in a few years. I’ve spent a lot of time flirting with her, but never with mones. I got some high pitched shout of joy from seeing me and a big full chested hug, while she ignored the other people at her booth. Then she talked to me for about 10 mins still ignoring everyone else. I like to be the center of attention. I finally broke away when one of her former coworkers came up to greet me. He was friendly. Happy to see me. Respectful. Agreeable.

Finally I got to my team at my booth. I initially got a bunch of crap (in a fun way) from a business partner which then turned more to respectful banter. The other 2 guys at our booth were pretty quiet. The only female there stayed pretty close to me the rest of the day. Lots of angling towards me and introducing people to me. I had some interested experience with some of the men at the conference later after I added another drop of this mix. Intimidation kicked in. May of these guys made very sure to stay well to the side of me. In fact this created at awkward dance as I kept turning my body towards them.

An interesting effect that my female coworker exhibited was an increase in confidence and extroversion while in my company. I found that amusing as well. There was also a bit of submission towards her by other females. That is not normally the case.

I wish I had more time to gauge interactions from groups, however I was impressed by the overall wariness of me being around, followed by being approached as soon as I showed myself as being friendly. All I had to do was say hi and I created a funnel effect. However, one of the guys at our booth is very well known within this region, so I am not entirely sure about the full impact of the pheromones.

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 7:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/316 "2015-10-07T19:57:49Z")

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Wanted to drop this in before I forgot. I just went to the grocery store. I was already wearing g a drop of Ascend and a drop of A314 Naturelle. Tried seeing if the two together could give me rev 23. It didn’t. Anyway I also have TAH, TAA, and [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/). The TAH and TAA are both 15mcg and the p75 is 2.5 mcg. I sprayed all 3 onto a business card and walked into the store fanning the business card. I got my first hit from a thin 40 year old woman who was very pleasant to look at. Literally she did a head snap. I got the two items I needed and ended up behind the 40 year old in line. This time I got a wink and a smile and an explanation into why she was buying all of the yogurts without a my prompting.

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/317 "2015-10-20T18:14:28Z")

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So I was going to test TAC, TAA, and focus heavily on TAH because I have never reported on any of these. However, I ran into a snag. I had a female friend decide that she likes TAC and TAH too much and has taken them from me.

This female friend has had trouble reaching the big O on her own since going on a new medication. Normally she does not have an issue with this. She wasn’t having an issue during intercourse, only when alone. One spray of TAC at 10mcg seems to have resolved that problem. TAC also seems to be causing some engorgement of vaginal walls causing “tightness” during intercourse. It appears that this pheromone is creating a reaction that increases blood flow to the pelvic floor, thereby heightening arousal. This is all exciting to me because in previous tests, I was not able to have this level of conversation with my partner to get thorough feedback.

My friend has also experimented with 2.5mcg of TAH and 10mcg of TAC in the “field”. One such application at a concert created an environment where people kept purposefully coming up to touch and rub on her. This fact was noted and expressed by people that went with her to the concert. It seems that gender was not a hinderance as one particular couple found the need for both of them to keep rubbing on her. She was annoyed by the attention, yet enjoyed the feeling.

A second experiment using TAC and TAH and copious amounts of alcohol at a Japanese restaurant and bar ended with a makeout session and much hand holding with a girl that she already knew but had little interaction with in the past. The girl that was all over her also had her husband present, but seemed to have forgotten about him for the night.

I guess I need to buy my another full bottle of TAC and perhaps get a tester of TAH.

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/318 "2015-10-20T18:58:27Z")

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I have been testing A314 Naturelle a bit more.

For one, I just love the smell of akuto. If nothing else it block the smell of any other mones I apply easily. It just smells that damn good.

A314 naturelle rev1 2 drops  
TAA 15mcg  
p75 2.5mcg

Ready? It’s a good mix. I never go wrong with [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) so I was expecting a good mix anyway. This is the mix I’ve been trying for the last several days in business and in liesure. It’s very versatile. I have even dropped in a little androstenol or a1 to make it more social, but it’s not needed. It’s a defacto standard alpha male. Adding TAA and p75 seems to mature the A314 Naturelle. It makes it more serious and allows for easier access to groups and information. I found at this mix that strangers in a business setting are curious to know who you are. They answer questions easily. They also give up information about certain clientelle that they are not supposed to provide. Financial information, mergers and acquisitions, business opportunities, you name it. It’s like hey I’m one of you guys.

Unfortunately, it is still much harder to make suggestions or lead the group. I find that incredibly frustrating, as my personality tends to cause me to take leadership over conversations.

In a bar setting, I get the vibe that I’m not the bar owner, but probably a close friend. Female friends and my wife are all open to talking and closeness with this mix. Female strangers seem to ready to respond and engage in conversation as soon as engaged.

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 2:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/319 "2015-10-30T02:38:45Z")

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5 drops of A314 naturelle  
5 mcg p75  
25 mcg p96  
15 mcg TAA

I was going for shock and awe.

I didn’t notice any self effects. Met with a very attractive tall brunette with blue eyes in her late 30’s for a business lunch. She has a little exposure to A314 and A1 a week ago. The greeting staff at the restaurant were friendly enough. Nothing crazy. She arrived dressed to the nines as usual. Gave me a professional handshake and we sat down for lunch. It took about 3 mins for the hits to start. She remained sharp and professional and open. Then the mirroring started. I picked up my menu. She picked up her menu. I put it down she put it down. I picked up my glass she picked up her glass. So I thought it was funny. I asked her if she knew what she wanted. She said yes. I picked up my menu again and she picked up her menu. I love it. We talked business. She asked me a lot of questions. She got me onto a conversation about 50 shades of Gray and I ran with it for a minute. Then she got a little shaken up and we left that topic. Then the light flirting began. She continued mirroring as well. When I ate she ate. If I stopped she stopped. She had a lot of questions. In the end the business conversation was very successful and I have a new source of business leads.

After lunch she sent me a text. Then the real flirting started. 🙂

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P96 25 mcg [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/)  
“I have some of your cologne on me” as she’s sniffing her hands. “It smells so masculine”  
“You smell so good”

2 different women.

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