# Rise of an Alpha **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [July 27, 2010, 2:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337 "2010-07-27T14:56:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 2:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/81 "2010-10-20T14:20:32Z")
Lucky man your wife did not see that ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/82 "2010-10-20T19:51:20Z")
LOL, accidentally huh? That’s what happened to me last Friday. I accidentally fell and slipped my penis inside her 😃. Love the reports though ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/83 "2010-10-20T19:54:50Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Lucky man your wife did not see that Yea tell me about it, since she was right on the other side of her. It’s weird though I didn’t even realize what I had done until a few minutes later. I think somewhere between all of the DIHL’s from her and me holding her kid my wires got crossed and I forgot who I belonged to. Need to be more careful and pay more attention from now on. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2010, 2:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/84 "2010-10-23T02:04:17Z")
Wrote most of this on my BB while at the doctor. Will edit more later. **Friday** MX395 1 spray to neck @6:30am **1st application** Right from the beginning I noticed the effects of MX395. Was a little agitated at my male barista this morning. His boss became annoyed with him too. Lot’s of respect from the males so far. Got lots of hair play and attentiveness from a female coworker first thing in the morning. She has been exposed before to mones. Didn’t expect much from her, but the hair play continued for the entire convo around 20 mins. I got another great hit from smoothie girl at GNC. She seemed a little agitated and didn’t want to talk to me. Yet she played with her hair and gave me looks. So I played it off and continued to talk to her. Then I swung by the doctors office. I didn’t have an appointment, but I was hoping to get in. I wasn’t able to be seen until 2pm, but that didn’t stop the girl at the desk from teasing and flirting with me. Around 12:30 I saw another female coworker, pheebs. I hadn’t told her what I was wearing today. She was talking to another gentleman that I didn’t know. I said hi to him when they stopped talking and broke away. Then I smiled at her and said hi. She threw up on hand and said “no. Ah ah” and started to walked away I was close to her s o I played it off and walked with her to her desk. Then she explained that she didn’t like how unprofessional my look and attitude were. I told her that I didn’t know what she was talking about. That was the first time that I have ever witnessed someone so blatantly react to the perspective a mone was giving them. I acted the same way I always do, but she felt something different. Walked into the doctor’s office at 1:50. Only one person was in the waiting room. A tall, eastern european beauty, HB8 around 28. I went to the counter and said “perfect timing, there’s no one here.” The girl at the counter continued her flirting from earlier. She seemed to take it up a slight notch. Meanwhile I’m watching the HB8 out of the corner of my eye. She starts hair flipping ans running her fingers through her hair. Crosses he legs towards me and bounces her toe. I decide not to sit anywhere near her. I sit to her side so that I can catch her looking at me. 5 mins later she begins to straighten her clothing over and over. I saw her glance at me a few more times. **2nd application 1 spray MX395 @3:30pm to forearms** Went to pick up some business cards while wearing my new eye patch. (It’s a long story. Thankfully I only have to wear it 24hrs) I got great responses at the store. Older lady was very attentive, however she seemed slightly loss in my presence. She would ask a question and have to come ask me again when she walked away from me. A younger heavy girl helped me finish up my order. She was very receptive. She was having a bad day so I took Steve’s advice and left her better then I found her. I think I could actually make her bloom with about a year of love. She was very in to me. Plus I picked up a great business contact while I was there. Had to pick up a prescription around 4:30pm. Very hot young pharamcist with a huge diamond ring. Definite IOI’s. Touching her hair even though it was in a bun. Long looks into my one eye LOL. Smile so big it split her face in half. Oh how I’m loving this mone. I’m getting crazy hits even with this eye patch. Went to a kids birthday part at around 6pm. My wife was very receptive and affectionate. My children loved all over me. The young moms there gave me some good respect hits and so did the guys. There were two teenage girls at the party. One in highschool and one in college. The HS chick kept giving me bold glances all night with big smiles. The college girl almost ignored me until I waved at her at some point. From that point on she would end up where I was. Sit near where I was sitting and kept trying to catch my eye again. MX395 is looking like what I expected the UF project to be. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2010, 1:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/85 "2010-10-23T13:29:21Z")
im getting the same results ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 6:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/86 "2010-10-24T06:25:31Z")
I had to edit. Didn’t make sense and I left some things out. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 2:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/87 "2010-10-24T14:48:47Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > I had to edit. Didn’t make sense and I left some things out. Josie, Could it factor in your results also that you were USMC. ( I Know once a marine always a Marine) ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 5:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/88 "2010-10-25T05:18:47Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Josie, > > Could it factor in your results also that you were USMC. ( I Know once a marine always a Marine) I’m assuming this isn’t a dig. 🙂 I often wonder about the image I portray. I know that it is easy for the body to display certain body language without consciously being aware. Muscle memory is very powerful and the USMC spends a lot of time repeating movements so that your body remembers them even when your conscious mind does not. I also have to remember that I am 6’2 and 200lbs. There is one mone that reminds me that I am a Marine everytime I wear it, [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/). One of the aspects that Marines often portray is a sense of danger and indifference. We call it the 1000 yard stare. It’s when you notice everything around you, but it looks like you are looking off into space. I have noticed with P75 that most men don’t speak to me, and women give obvious IOI’s only when engaged by the wearer. (at least for me). I believe that these IOI’s are actually responses to fear. Fear in women often arousal if there is no real danger perceived. This is why women like bad boys. P75 is the Marine, it is the bad boy. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/89 "2010-10-25T21:04:06Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > I’m assuming this isn’t a dig. 🙂 > > I often wonder about the image I portray. I know that it is easy for the body to display certain body language without consciously being aware. Muscle memory is very powerful and the USMC spends a lot of time repeating movements so that your body remembers them even when your conscious mind does not. I also have to remember that I am 6’2 and 200lbs. > > There is one mone that reminds me that I am a Marine everytime I wear it, P75. One of the aspects that Marines often portray is a sense of danger and indifference. We call it the 1000 yard stare. It’s when you notice everything around you, but it looks like you are looking off into space. > > I have noticed with P75 that most men don’t speak to me, and women give obvious IOI’s only when engaged by the wearer. (at least for me). I believe that these IOI’s are actually responses to fear. Fear in women often arousal if there is no real danger perceived. This is why women like bad boys. P75 is the Marine, it is the bad boy. Heck no, never against Marines or any service member for that matter, no digs there. Much respect. Was going to Annapolis w USMC option but things happened. But the reason why I asked was because you can always tell who was in the service and who wasn’t. I figured that has a part of it. Your poise and overall body language probably is projecting that type of image. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 1:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/90 "2010-10-26T13:46:48Z")
**Saturday** was mostly traveling. Used some P75 and P74 at a soccer game. Never got bumped. Always had at least a 1ft space buffer. Something that I have noticed with P75 lately is the wait until spoken to effect. Where a girl will space out and not move until you engage with them and then they will become lively and send out a bunch of IOI’s. When you stop being attentive they space out again. Had this happen with best friends wife, whom I know is not attracted to me, and another girl in an adjacent line while waiting for hotdogs. The girl in the adjacent line made me nervous. She kept looking my way like she was looking for someone and couldn’t see them. I finally turned and locked eyes with her. She started hair flipping and playing with her clothes and staring. When I looked away she stopped and started the whole looking at me blankly thing. Then someone got in her way and she blatantly tried to look around them. So I locked eyes again and she went back into the clothes shifting and hair flipping. It was weird. I decided to avoid eye contact from that moment on. Stayed with my best friend and his family that night. Got crazy reactions from his Dobies. They went nuts over the P74 licking application points on my forearms. Definitely became submissive. See A314 forum for **Sunday’s** information. Had a good opportunity to test AMMO, A314, and [P130](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p130/) together. **Monday** **Initial application:** 2 sprays of MX395, 1 to forearms one to adams apple **Setting** Driving from DC back to SC **Self effects** : There are some definite self effects I get from this mix. I definitely feel more predatory. It reminds me a bit of P75 at around 5mcg. **Effects on others** There is no doubt that MX395 works instantly. At around 11:30am I stopped to get gas. I hadn’t put anything on yet. I got out of the car and sprayed myself quickly while pumping gas. When I went inside to get a drink a blond, about 34 from Florida, that wasn’t that attractive immediately got out of my way even though she was looking for a drink. Then she started up a conversation about coconut water. Now I can’t figure out what is so sexual about coconut water, but this was a sexual conversation. I don’t know if it was just a personal experience, or if she really was giving sexual innuendos. I then went a few blocks to get a shake from Dairy Queen. I had a craving. Inside at the counter an older black lady came to help me. Immediately a young black girl showed up at her side not looking at me, but not doing any work either. She just stood there. So I gave my order and got my shake. (might not be a hit, but it was cool) Around 12:30pm I stopped in at a mall in Petersburg, VA. I had purchased a watch on the way up and I need another link taken out. Plus while I was there the first time I got great hits from the entire mall while wearing P74 and P75. The entire town is military, so I’m guessing my posture had nothing to do with it. (Well I am a Marine and they are Army.) Got terrific hits from a HB8 blonde there and some other ladies. BTW, I didn’t see many attractive ppl in that town. Was kind of sad. When I walked in wearing MX395 to the Dillards a sexy cougar in a black short dress and knee high boots looked me over like I was dinner. Turns out she was a manager and got help for me immediately. The girl that helped me was sweet enough. She is Turkish. Not sure if I got hits or not, but the interaction was pleasant. I also bought some CD’s from the store and got crazy respect hits from the clerk there. On the way out through Dillards the manager in all black gave me a very mean look, like I had pissed her off somehow. I had to stop myself from walking over and bringing her in line. When I finally got home my family was all happy to see me. Hugs and kisses from my wife. She was very affectionate all night, but she hadn’t seen me in a few days. She was on her period so that was annoying, but she didn’t have any adverse reactions to the MX395 which was good. However, she stated that she definitely hates the smell of MX395. She says it smells like alcohol or a cleaning solution. ---
**Author:** ![whs06c](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whs06c/32/2142_2.png) [@whs06c](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/whs06c)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/91 "2010-10-26T23:44:54Z")
nice report. I noticed that you get the “looking my way like she was looking for someone and couldn’t see them” too eh? I didn’t get the spaced out effects with [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) though… ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 3:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/92 "2010-10-28T03:03:28Z")
> [@whs06c](#): > > nice report. I noticed that you get the “looking my way like she was looking for someone and couldn’t see them” too eh? I didn’t get the spaced out effects with P75 though… That was actually a first for me. The spaced out effects are odd. It’s like an on and off switch. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 1:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/93 "2010-10-28T13:58:40Z")
**Tuesday** - Officially testing [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) kind of **Initial Application** 1 spray to forearms 7:00am **Second application** 3:00pm 2 sprays **Self Effects** For some reason this molecule makes me feel nervous. I feel uncomfortable. I lose some of my natural dominance and aggressiveness. It just feels like someone else’s clothes. It finally clicked around 4 hours. **Effects on others** At 1 spray I got annoyed and didn’t really notice much. I guess I was looking for blatant hits since I’m trying to understand the molecule. However I figured out what it does after 2 sprays and a 1 on 1 discussion with the Dr. He basically spilled his guts about past investment opportunities that had gone badly and some that had went well. He also explained that he wanted to invest with me and my company or do business with me. He seemed very sincere. He was very interested in my business. He also gave me a few good ideas that I will be looking into. I also noticed that I was more relaxed even though this isn’t my normal conversation for a Dr’s visit. (BTW my eye is doing fine). I got great hits from the receptionists as well. Great connections and answered even personal questions without hesitation and in detail. We had an older couple over for dinner. We have been friends with them since before we were married. Actually the provided our premarital counseling and performed our ceremony. It was a great dinner. Some deep conversation. The interaction with my wife at night was great as well. She was very open in conversation and really wanted to relate with me on a deep level. Had a great level 5 conversation with her. She wanted to be near me all night. So far P74 appears to be instant trust. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 7:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/94 "2010-10-31T19:53:37Z")
**Not an official report** It’s not an official report, because I the hits I received could have been because I had my 3 beautiful children with me. I always get IOI’s when they are around. So I have tried p93 twice now. Not sure what this one is suppose to do. I saw Jasmin’s post about it being a Caucasian attractant, but I’m not sure about that. My wife is swiss/german with dark hair and hazel eyes. I didn’t notice much from her. First application was 7.5 mcg’s by itself. Second application was the next day @ 15mcg with 2 drops of a314. I had my children with me both times. I got IOI’s from women, but I always do with my children. They are really beautiful. Women practically beg me to father children after they see my 3. lol. What I have noticed were the self effects. [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) makes me kind of goofy. I mean really I become pretty silly and playful immediately. And if I try to fight it off, I shake a little. I have also tested 7.5mcg with A1 of up to 6 drops. I don’t get strong depression symptoms from A1, but I do get some grounding even at 2 drops. With P93 I didn’t get any of that. Nothing could stop the goofiness, not a314 or A1. ---
**Author:** ![Joe10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/joe10/32/300_2.png) [@Joe10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Joe10)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/95 "2010-10-31T23:25:49Z")
Good read. Thanks again JosieW for your detailed reports ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/96 "2010-11-01T20:28:37Z")
**Monday** MX395 **Initial Application:** 3 sprays to forearms @ 7am. Wearing long sleeve button up. Roll sleeves up for testing, down when I’m not as interested in getting hits. (This is in theory anyway) **Self Effects** I feel pretty good. Feel kind of cool **Effects on others** Caught the hot Asian HB9 Barista staring at me when ordering. Beautiful girl really. She is great at avoiding being noticed. I caught her out of the corner of my eye and threw her a smile. She looked away immediately. When she gave me my drink she waited for me to take my cup before removing her hand instead of just putting it on the counter. Got a long look there too. Wasn’t like she was checking me out though. More of a hard look like she was looking through me to see who I really am. We had a new lady start today. I forgot about that, so I added a drop of A314 at 8am. She is 50, and I’m mentoring her apparently. I didn’t need the A314. She would have been impressed if I didn’t wear anything at all. She seems to have a lot of life experience, and is comfortable with herself, but not necessarily confident in her skills. Where as I am always confident in my skills. I think I got some great A314 hits from her, I kept trying to downplay what I do and she wouldn’t let me. A meeting with several coworkers didn’t go as well. I literally got talked over about 3 times. I’m not sure why. I got joked with and picked on a little bit in the beginning too. I’m guessing it was body language and placement of seating. I sat in the middle so that everyone could see a diagram that I had. The person everyone kept looking to, which happens to be a very Alpha male that really knows his stuff and I usually have to smack down, was at the head of the table. Mones won’t get you past seating authority unless you work them. Somehow I became the target of people telling me what they needed and information being thrown at me instead of me running the meeting. That is until I leaned back in my chair, put my hands behind my head, and spread my legs. Collaboration wasn’t working with this group so I had to be the guy in charge instead. Then all eyes came to me and I lead the meeting. (Always be on your game) Went home to fix something in the house at lunch time. My wife thinks that these mones smell too much like alcohol. So I put a little lotion on over the application areas, and rolled my sleeves down. Talked to wifey outside for a minute before leaving. She grabbed me and snuggled into my chest. So I gave her a hug. Then she proceeded to climb up my body, wrap her legs around me, and hump me in front of the whole neighborhood. (My wife has become pretty conservative lately, so this is not like her at all). I was like what are you doing. She says no one is around we can have fun really quick. (BTW, my kids were inside eating lunch.) I played along for a minute and then put her down right before a neighbor pulled into their driveway. Can’t wait to see what happens next. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/97 "2010-11-02T15:45:54Z")
**Monday cont..** Monday ended in my daughter not listening to anything I had to say. (She’s just like that sometimes). The best part was my wife initiating sex after I took a shower and went to bed. I tried my best to get the FF21 smell off my skin, but I just couldn’t get it off. I don’t know if it was the scent or one of the mones, but it was really irritating my nose. Plus my wife again let me know that she hated the smell. So when I went to bed and fell asleep, I didn’t expect anything. When she came to bed after taking a shower, she did expect something. She snuggled and let it be known what she wanted. I was going to decline and continue sleeping. I was pretty tired. My body rebelled and then I was all over her. She responded remarkably. This was frantic drunk stranger type sex. Lots of passionate kissing. I completely devoured her and she not only submitted but did so gratefully. In remained intense throughout the whole 4 mins. 🙂 j/k. I don’t know how long it lasted, but it was great. She had multiples and I think I moved into a whole new plane of existence wear the goal was not release but ultimate fulfillment. There was no thought. No planning. No higher consciousness. It was all in the moment and we were completely devoted to it. She passed out in less than 30 secs after we were done leaving me wanting time for cuddling and conversation. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 3:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/98 "2010-11-02T15:47:14Z")
Did you just say you wanted to cuddle and talk??? ---
**Author:** ![TheBoogieMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theboogieman/32/1136_2.png) [@TheBoogieMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheBoogieMan)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 6:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/99 "2010-11-03T06:48:05Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > **Tuesday** - Officially testing P74 kind of > > **Initial Application** 1 spray to forearms 7:00am > **Second application** 3:00pm 2 sprays > > **Self Effects** > For some reason this molecule makes me feel nervous. I feel uncomfortable. I lose some of my natural dominance and aggressiveness. It just feels like someone else’s clothes. It finally clicked around 4 hours. > > **Effects on others** > At 1 spray I got annoyed and didn’t really notice much. I guess I was looking for blatant hits since I’m trying to understand the molecule. However I figured out what it does after 2 sprays and a 1 on 1 discussion with the Dr. He basically spilled his guts about past investment opportunities that had gone badly and some that had went well. He also explained that he wanted to invest with me and my company or do business with me. He seemed very sincere. He was very interested in my business. He also gave me a few good ideas that I will be looking into. I also noticed that I was more relaxed even though this isn’t my normal conversation for a Dr’s visit. **(BTW my eye is doing fine).** I got great hits from the receptionists as well. Great connections and answered even personal questions without hesitation and in detail. > > We had an older couple over for dinner. We have been friends with them since before we were married. Actually the provided our premarital counseling and performed our ceremony. It was a great dinner. Some deep conversation. > > The interaction with my wife at night was great as well. She was very open in conversation and really wanted to relate with me on a deep level. Had a great level 5 conversation with her. She wanted to be near me all night. > > So far P74 appears to be instant trust. Jeez he goes on and on about his eye when all we want to hear about is the mones. 🙄 LOL just kidding man glad to hear everything is doing good. A lovely wife, beautiful kids, and a clean bill of health…what exactly did you start using mones for again? Haha. 😃 I started using [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) recently as well and am liking it a lot. Won’t go into detail and risk biasing your results though. Personally, I can’t resist reading reports and I don’t find my results to coincide exactly with others’ experiences anyways (P74 included). ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 12:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/100 "2010-11-03T12:17:23Z")
@P51 Ok ok ok. I said it. It was the MX395. I’m telling you the truth. 🙂 However yesterday my wife let it be known that she got up later and took a shower and that I was passed out. Apparently she forgot about the fact that she passed out first. She was not happy to wake up with a hicky. I don’t even remember doing that. @Boogieman I started for business reasons and got involved with you guys and all of this testing. I really just wanted A314 and that’s it. Well maybe some IS too, but they sent me IJ for free and well you now how it goes. Test one then you might as well test them all. Of course I can’t stop reading P51’s journal and he won’t quit buying and testing crap. He’s even buying the same stuff I’m buying at the same time now! I can’t even beat him to the test. (does that make sense?) Are you reporting on [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) Boogieman? Are you testing it by itself? I tried it with other products first and didn’t understand it. First of all I don’t like the self effects at all. It makes me nervous. I think it takes me a while to get into congruency for this one. I didn’t read up on it first, so I had no clue what it did. However once I was in the doctor’s office listening to him ramble on I relaxed. Then I saw the hits. He was literally saying " I don’t know why I’m telling you all of this, but I would like to be in business with you." The guy has never even seen our website. I started noticing that when I asked other people questions they had no trouble telling me what I wanted to know even if we were strangers. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337.md?page=4) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337.md?page=6)