# Rise of an Alpha **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [July 27, 2010, 2:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337 "2010-07-27T14:56:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/161 "2010-12-13T18:43:16Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > **Update-** TAF has kicked in. Will post later. Working now. Dude, How many mcg? ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/162 "2010-12-13T21:05:28Z")
**Monday cont…** modified MX353 **Second application-** 5 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) enone to back of neck. 10mcg of [p79](https://pheromonelabs.com/) sides of neck, 10 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) [p83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) front of neck, 25 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) [p96](https://pheromonelabs.com/) sides of head, 10 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) [p102](https://pheromonelabs.com/) front of neck, 7.5 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) to the chin at 12pm. **Self Effects** I know something you don’t know. I have a grin. I’m cool. Calm. I can feel the mones pulling people to me. I may be a bit paranoid. Not in a bad way. I just feel like everyone is paying attention to me. I also feel like a hunter. Maybe vampirish. ha! **Effects on others-** Went to Trader Joes. Never been before and I wanted to check it out. I just kind of strolled through. 2 ladies in line at the register pulled a head snap as I walked by. 🙂 I kind of like that. Not sure of anything else. I got too into the store and what it sells. I’m kind of liking Trader Joes. Had lunch with some guys. Nothing new. Just playing around as usual joking on each other. I have noticed however after testing mones for a while that one of my coworkers is a very strong alpha male. He’s not just talk and bluff. He controls his world very well. Went to the grocery store. Had to grab some stuff for lasagna. My coworker’s wife is making it for me for a Christmas party on Wednesday. He has never had it in the 6 years that they have been together. She’s making it for me because I asked. Nothing to do with mones, sometimes I’m just that damn bold. While shopping I’m intently staring at lasagna boxes looking for the best value. Only one other person was on the aisle, an older lady early 50’s probably. I had my back to her, and she had her back to me. She backs right into me. Now, this woman saw me walk up to the pasta. I’m not invisible. I’m a big guy. She apologized, of course. Everyone was friendly enough in the store, so I doubt that I am OD’ing. So then I went to a bookstore. Walk in and kind of glide around just checking out new releases etc. Ok, here is where I’m not sure if my imagination is taking over. Men get out of the way or at least attempt to when they see me coming. They even move their wive’s or girlfriends or whatever out of the way. The women, do not move on their own. Maybe that’s normal. I don’t know. So I stand around reading a chapter of a book and people just seem to walk past me, but a few of the women brush me. There was enough room to go around. Still I am reading my chapter intently. Then I put the book down and hit another aisle. Now I feel tension. There is a young dark haired girl “not” looking at me. I know paranoia right? But I can tell that she is looking at me until I look her way. It literally feels like I am pulling her and another girl on the aisle with her boyfriend to me. So I go to another aisle and she stops reading and follows me out of the aisle. I stop and grab another book. She stutter steps and then continues walking, “not” looking at me. So I am looking through some stuff and another girl on that aisle glances my way and when I look towards her she glances away. Then she starts “not” looking at me too. When I get back to work, I don’t notice any issues. I don’t know. Maybe I am imagining it. Everything seems to be going find with male coworkers. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 12:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/163 "2010-12-14T00:39:39Z")
I would KILL to have a Trader Joe’s in Memphis! ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 4:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/164 "2010-12-14T04:22:06Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > I would KILL to have a Trader Joe’s in Memphis! They have about three of them near where I live, but I have NEVER purchased anything from there yet 😮 Good report, Josie! ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 6:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/165 "2010-12-14T18:34:25Z")
**Monday cont…** Ok one more update. My wife was having a rough day yesterday, at least that’s what she said. She took the kids with her and went to the store before I got home. When I got home I started cooking. When she came in the door I was at the stove making sausages with beer glazed onions. She came up behind me and grabbed my ass with both hands while pushing her chest into me. She has never done that. She doesn’t do that. So i turned around and gave her a caveman kiss. Unfortunately i was to busy last night to capitalize on the sexual tension because I was in the cold smoking pork tenderloin till 1 am, even though she tried to wait up for me. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/166 "2010-12-14T20:17:03Z")
You haven’t really LIVED unless you have been shopping at Trader Joe’s and his brothers place Trafficker Iglacious. Well Iglacious’ place is somewhere on the corner of 3rd and Main, usually. So the wife got a little touchy feely eh? That’s good to know ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 8:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/167 "2010-12-14T20:25:01Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > You haven’t really LIVED unless you have been shopping at Trader Joe’s and his brothers place Trafficker Iglacious. Well Iglacious’ place is somewhere on the corner of 3rd and Main, usually. > > So the wife got a little touchy feely eh? That’s good to know Really? What’s the big deal with Trader Joes? We have a place here called Earthfare that’s local to the Carolinas that I like better. Yep she got all grabby. Funny thing is she was complaining about me doing that to her just last week. Women! ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 8:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/168 "2010-12-14T20:49:24Z")
Because the closest thing Memphis has to a Trader Joe’s is WalMart. Trader Joe’s is GOD incarnate when all you have is a WalMart ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 2:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/169 "2010-12-15T14:24:59Z")
**Tuesday** P96 **Initial application:** 37.5 mcg p96 **Self effects:** Shrug I don’t remember any, well nothing obvious. This mix may make me a little more cuddly. **Affects on others:** So I didn’t see anything that I would really call a hit. I took my oldest to the dentist in the morning and sprayed the p96 on while driving. The ladies at the dentist were friendly enough. I don’t know how they normally behave, so I dont’ have a good baseline. Then again anyone who has dealt with my oldest son is always awed. I made a mistake and forgot to tell the dentist something. When I got home my wife had a fit. I was really shocked. I told her not to talk to me that way again in front of our children. Later she apologized, but she brought up a point about my memory and about my listening. Either I am not being present when she talks to me or I have ADHD. Now I was diagnosed as a child, but I never had a problem as an adult. Lately though it’s like I can’t even listen to her, my mind just leaves. She said it hurts her. She thinks I’m just ignoring her because I don’t care. I had a rough time recoverying from the argument. I’m not sure why, but it sat in my car for a while before coming into work. The rest of the day was ok. I had a good work day with the guys that I work with. At one meeting I met a woman that had taken over for a previous lady on an account. She was blond and had blue eyes. Mid 30’s. Tall and attractive, but not impressive. She seemed to have dilated pupils when I was introduced to her. The room was bright and no one else had dilated pupils. The conversation moved away from me and I had a talk with a contractor that was doing work for me. I later rejoined the meeting conversation. Her pupils were normal. The group was joking about something I had done recently and she chimed in while looking at me. Her pupils enlarged again. I was just sitting and relaxing on a piece of furniture while everyone else was standing. I was very cool and very confident. Went to Staples after work. Nothing big there. Although I did try out Dr Dre’s Beats solo headphones. Those are awesome. When I got home my kids responded well. They were all over me. Normally I get tackled and they want to wrestle with me. This time they wanted to lay on me and wanted me to carry them and hug and kiss on them. It was nice to roll on the couch and just cuddle up for a bit. My wife had made an amazing dinner, even though she didn’t have to. I had made smoke tenderloin the night before and we were suppose to eat it on Tuesday night. The evening was pretty close to picture perfect. Kids played nicely. They listened well to us. I helped my wife with chores. I went to bed early. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 2:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/170 "2010-12-15T14:55:03Z")
**Wednesday** P76 **Initial application** 7.5 mcg p76 to throat, back of neck, and back of head **Self effect:** Ok so there is a suaveness about this pheromone. I want to call it instant charm. My whole demeanor changes. Now I also dressed nicely today, so that may be skewing the results, but the feeling didn’t come until after application **Effects on others** On the stairwell this morning I ran into Conneticut and the gorgeous mixed girl that had computer issues a month or so back while I was testing the UF pack. I cracked a joke and this started a short convo. Mixed girl is just staring at me. She cracks me up, there is no doubt that she is interested. It’s not sexual just very sensual. Connecticut (also known as N) is playing with her hair as we talk. I had to turn around and almost ran into mixed girl. (I need to find out her name). She doesn’t move. It’s like she was expecting me to walk up to her instead of going around. This one is dangerous I percieve. We are having Christmas thing today. Just food. I added another shot of P76 because I wanted to test 10mcg today but forgot. Getting some decent hits from coworkers especially females. Using my name a lot. Pheebs got a whiff of me. She says I seem a little more shy today or maybe sheepish. Just under the radar on flirtiness. More later. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/171 "2010-12-15T16:45:45Z")
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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 6:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/172 "2010-12-15T18:46:34Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > **Tuesday** P96 > > **Initial application:** 37.5 mcg p96 > > **Self effects:** Shrug I don’t remember any, well nothing obvious. This mix may make me a little more cuddly. > > **Affects on others:** So I didn’t see anything that I would really call a hit. I took my oldest to the dentist in the morning and sprayed the p96 on while driving. The ladies at the dentist were friendly enough. I don’t know how they normally behave, so I dont’ have a good baseline. Then again anyone who has dealt with my oldest son is always awed. > > I made a mistake and forgot to tell the dentist something. When I got home my wife had a fit. I was really shocked. I told her not to talk to me that way again in front of our children. Later she apologized, but she brought up a point about my memory and about my listening. Either I am not being present when she talks to me or I have ADHD. Now I was diagnosed as a child, but I never had a problem as an adult. Lately though it’s like I can’t even listen to her, my mind just leaves. She said it hurts her. She thinks I’m just ignoring her because I don’t care. > > I had a rough time recoverying from the argument. I’m not sure why, but it sat in my car for a while before coming into work. The rest of the day was ok. I had a good work day with the guys that I work with. At one meeting I met a woman that had taken over for a previous lady on an account. She was blond and had blue eyes. Mid 30’s. Tall and attractive, but not impressive. She seemed to have dilated pupils when I was introduced to her. The room was bright and no one else had dilated pupils. The conversation moved away from me and I had a talk with a contractor that was doing work for me. I later rejoined the meeting conversation. Her pupils were normal. The group was joking about something I had done recently and she chimed in while looking at me. Her pupils enlarged again. I was just sitting and relaxing on a piece of furniture while everyone else was standing. I was very cool and very confident. > > Went to Staples after work. Nothing big there. Although I did try out Dr Dre’s Beats solo headphones. Those are awesome. When I got home my kids responded well. They were all over me. Normally I get tackled and they want to wrestle with me. This time they wanted to lay on me and wanted me to carry them and hug and kiss on them. It was nice to roll on the couch and just cuddle up for a bit. My wife had made an amazing dinner, even though she didn’t have to. I had made smoke tenderloin the night before and we were suppose to eat it on Tuesday night. > > The evening was pretty close to picture perfect. Kids played nicely. They listened well to us. I helped my wife with chores. I went to bed early. The thing about P96, at least for me anyway, was it never really did much on its own. I always thought is worked on a deeper level making things better. Kind of like Catsup, on its own there’s not much you can do with it, but add it to a cheeseburger and you have heavenly bliss. That’s how P96 works. I’m not sure you’re ever going to find your best dosage with it, unless you start wearing it with other products. Then quickly notice the deepness it brings to the table. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/173 "2010-12-15T18:49:23Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > **Wednesday** P76 > > **Initial application** 7.5 mcg p96 to throat, back of neck, and back of head > > **Self effect:** Ok so there is a suaveness about this pheromone. I want to call it instant charm. My whole demeanor changes. Now I also dressed nicely today, so that may be skewing the results, but the feeling didn’t come until after application > > **Effects on others** > > On the stairwell this morning I ran into Conneticut and the gorgeous mixed girl that had computer issues a month or so back while I was testing the UF pack. I cracked a joke and this started a short convo. Mixed girl is just staring at me. She cracks me up, there is no doubt that she is interested. It’s not sexual just very sensual. Connecticut (also known as N) is playing with her hair as we talk. I had to turn around and almost ran into mixed girl. (I need to find out her name). She doesn’t move. It’s like she was expecting me to walk up to her instead of going around. This one is dangerous I percieve. > > We are having Christmas thing today. Just food. I added another shot of P76 because I wanted to test 10mcg today but forgot. Getting some decent hits from coworkers especially females. Using my name a lot. Pheebs got a whiff of me. She says I seem a little more shy today or maybe sheepish. Just under the radar on flirtiness. > > More later. I saw you mentioned P76 twice. I’m guessing the P96 was just a typo? ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/174 "2010-12-15T19:30:50Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > I saw you mentioned P76 twice. I’m guessing the P96 was just a typo? No. When I test putatives I test them every other day. So I am testing P76 on one day and P96 the next day. I’m hoping this keeps residuals down. Plus I can see the differences between the mones a bit more. This allows me to pay more attention to the details of a putative. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/175 "2010-12-15T19:32:36Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > I saw you mentioned P76 twice. I’m guessing the P96 was just a typo? You are correct. Thanks. I updated it. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 7:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/176 "2010-12-15T19:53:51Z")
Liked your P96 report by the way. Between the IJ, A314, and putative testing I’ve done with P96, it really shines the closer you get with someone and the bonding effects are tremendous. I’m still discovering a lot more about it the more I put it into my mixes. I have an inkling that if you add 30 mcg to MX353’s formula, it has the potential to be a blockbuster. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/177 "2010-12-15T20:03:51Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Liked your P96 report by the way. > > Between the IJ, A314, and putative testing I’ve done with P96, it really shines the closer you get with someone and the bonding effects are tremendous. > > I’m still discovering a lot more about it the more I put it into my mixes. I have an inkling that if you add 30 mcg to MX353’s formula, it has the potential to be a blockbuster. OK well let’s discuss this. I appreciate your comment. So I don’t have any P86. You can send me yours if you want. So I subbed P96 for P86. I got what I think are good strong hits. But I don’t know what the original is like, because I have never used it. So how important is the P86? ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 8:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/178 "2010-12-15T20:24:54Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > OK well let’s discuss this. I appreciate your comment. So I don’t have any P86. You can send me yours if you want. So I subbed P96 for P86. I got what I think are good strong hits. But I don’t know what the original is like, because I have never used it. > > So how important is the P86? For me, the P86 had a drawing in effect. I experienced it with my friend and I hate to say it as it sounds cliche with the other reports, but her attractiveness was aplified. I’ve used TAF before and I think it had a factor but maybe for me to notice it a little better and I don’t have enough experience with the P102 (I think thats that one gotta check my notes) to say it could be it, cause I’ve only tested it by itself. It’s hard to articulate but for me I saw her in a new light, only in that interaction, than I had in the past. I’ve seen her a couple of times after with no other effect, but for that specific one, she looked good. I also remember that seeing G that night as well, she looked a lot more attractive than I remembered. The common denominator in these interactions were that there were platonic. G is “bangable” but it wasn’t there cause of D. So in summation, for out of no where responses, specific to MX353, that’s how it worked out for me. P86 makes women you know and don’t expect to look better. It was really weird how that happened and I don’t know if P96 would have that same kind of effect. P96 is more look in your eyes deep connection when paired with the right socials. P86 is more like someone who cleans up well and looks gorgeous that night and shocks you. I hope this didn’t confuse you too much but it’s hard to pinpoint the self effects I had that night. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 8:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/179 "2010-12-15T20:28:19Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > OK well let’s discuss this. I appreciate your comment. So I don’t have any P86. You can send me yours if you want. So I subbed P96 for P86. I got what I think are good strong hits. But I don’t know what the original is like, because I have never used it. > > So how important is the P86? [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/)/86 make and break that mix. The combo is so versatile it will work with anything even a few simple sprays of Ammunition. Although P96 can be purported to be “love” in a bottle it is P86 that brings together the whole amorous intent. I’ve gotten over P86 though. Its a wonderful molecule but with it always OOS now and the toll it takes with constant use I find it better to use it conversatively than to base whole mixes around it. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 8:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337/180 "2010-12-15T20:58:25Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > P83/86 make and break that mix. The combo is so versatile it will work with anything even a few simple sprays of Ammunition. Although P96 can be purported to be “love” in a bottle it is P86 that brings together the whole amorous intent. > > I’ve gotten over P86 though. Its a wonderful molecule but with it always OOS now and the toll it takes with constant use I find it better to use it conversatively than to base whole mixes around it. Josie, sorry for hijack. OA, what were your thoughts/cliff notes on P86 It’s always nice to get your input on this. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337.md?page=8) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rise-of-an-alpha/40337.md?page=10)