# Rone and None

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rone-and-none/10107>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [March 17, 2008, 6:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rone-and-none/10107 "2008-03-17T18:46:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rattlesnake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Rattlesnake](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rattlesnake)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2008, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rone-and-none/10107/6 "2008-03-18T18:47:30Z")

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> [@zeph](#):
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> What do you mean by that? 😕  
> I’m thinking of using TAL/TAH after the instant series I have.

The TAL/TAH are primarily used by women, TAL projects a more confident woman, whilst TAH gives off a more cuddly woman vibe. I really cant say more about what happened other than a impromptu lap dance from a non-target girl made me blush…in front of our mutual friends. By the way when using TAL to increase the forwardness with women be careful. If your target isnt attracted to you, you’ll simply be giving her the confidence to go after the man she does like. I know this can hurt like hell from past experience, thankfully this was before my phero days. I woulda felt a bigger idiot if I drove her into another guys arms.

> [@renny](#):
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> Very interesting observation on -Androsterone and -none there rattle. That’s practically the opposite of what I get. Maybe it’s age dependent?
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> Give up the WHOLE story here rattle old buddy. 🙂

Opposite? That’s interesting, could you give a few more details about this, the effects you get with None and the effects with Rone. Thanks 🙂

> [@renny](#):
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> Thinking about your post, rattlesnake, I have been puzzled for a long time by the way these two compounds are thought of. Essentially they are talked about in terms of being two maculine pheromones. Androsterone is the white hat “nice guy” while androstenone is the black hat “bad boy”.
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> I wonder if it might be more productive to think of them more in terms of androsterone signaling strength and -none signaling excitement? Does this make sense in your experience?

I agree, I think rone, gives off a more silent, high value strong type of vibe. More like James Bond as opposed to the Russel Crowe effect of None.

Visionary, thanks for the great post. I’ll take the time to read it properly later on 🙂

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