# rookie help **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 25, 2009, 3:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rookie-help/33559 "2009-10-25T03:00:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![qbdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ecccb3/32.png) [@qbdude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/qbdude)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 3:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rookie-help/33559/1 "2009-10-25T03:00:04Z")
hi guys, what would yall reccomend for a new guy trying these out? i did get the axtive lp7. is that anygood? ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 3:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rookie-help/33559/2 "2009-10-25T03:40:26Z")
[Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) tends to work great on girls around our age (I’m 23). I haven’t had enough personal experiences with IG to make claims about it for myself, but I have read MANY reports of women 18-mid 20s having a lot of attraction towards it. Anything from the Instant line is great to go with for beginners. IS promotes all around happiness for both yourself and the people around you and will make people want to be around you more. IH makes people want to trust in you more and you may find them telling you things you wouldn’t expect to hear until knowing them for quite some time. IO will have people talking a lot, as my own experiences have shown me sometimes more than they should be talking lol. Just let us know if you have any more questions, and welcome! …and I have no idea what axtive lp7 is, sorry. ---
**Author:** ![qbdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ecccb3/32.png) [@qbdude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/qbdude)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 10:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rookie-help/33559/3 "2009-10-25T10:32:03Z")
are these all sented? ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 12:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rookie-help/33559/4 "2009-10-25T12:53:08Z")
im pretty sure just about all the Instants have 6% neroli scent. In my opinion it smells great, but in either case, the scent dies down after about 10-15 minutes and then you can cover it up with whatever you want. ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 12:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rookie-help/33559/5 "2009-10-25T12:54:26Z")
> [@qbdude](#): > > are these all sented? The ones mentioned in the post above are all scented yes 🙂 Most of the Instant line is scented with neroli (citrusy fresh a bit like CK One), others like [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), A314 etc have their own specific fragrance. The P’s & E’s (advanced products) come in neroli as the default, but other scent options are available in the drop-down menue. You can opt for un-scented but it costs extra & is an option only available to very experienced reporting users. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 2:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rookie-help/33559/6 "2009-10-25T14:01:41Z")
> [@qbdude](#): > > hi guys, what would yall reccomend for a new guy trying these out? > i did get the axtive lp7. is that anygood? Lp7 lists some [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) that are patented by another company so they are either breaking the patent rule, lying or using unpure overseas pheromones in the mix. Since its vertually impossible to get these molecules in marketable quantities except from china I would have to say there is a purity issue. The only glowing reviews I have seen have come from affilate sites and they will say just about anything to get you to buy from there link. Independant reviews put it somewhere in the middle. Not the best but not the worst of the bunch Tisha ---
**Author:** ![qbdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ecccb3/32.png) [@qbdude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/qbdude)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 10:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rookie-help/33559/7 "2009-10-25T22:45:09Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > im pretty sure just about all the Instants have 6% neroli scent. In my opinion it smells great, but in either case, the scent dies down after about 10-15 minutes and then you can cover it up with whatever you want. what do u mean by " i can cover it up with what ever you want?" it stops working at 15 mins? so what one would be the number 1 you would recommend? ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 10:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rookie-help/33559/8 "2009-10-25T22:48:10Z")
> [@qbdude](#): > > what do u mean by " i can cover it up with what ever you want?" > > it stops working at 15 mins? > > so what one would be the number 1 you would recommend? After about 10-15 minutes, most likely the neroli smell will be gone, but the pheromones will still be there. So you should be able to use any cologne you want to without a problem. Just don’t overdo it on the cologne. Often times the pheromones have a strong “smell” after immediately applying them, and people might think they need a lot of cologne to cover it up. But do NOT use a lot of cologne. Most women prefer just enough cologne to smell it up close, but not at a distance. ---
**Author:** ![qbdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ecccb3/32.png) [@qbdude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/qbdude)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 10:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rookie-help/33559/9 "2009-10-25T22:55:12Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > After about 10-15 minutes, most likely the neroli smell will be gone, but the pheromones will still be there. So you should be able to use any cologne you want to without a problem. Just don’t overdo it on the cologne. Often times the pheromones have a strong “smell” after immediately applying them, and people might think they need a lot of cologne to cover it up. But do NOT use a lot of cologne. Most women prefer just enough cologne to smell it up close, but not at a distance. hmm so i have to still get colonge ALONG with the pheromoes? ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rookie-help/33559/10 "2009-10-25T23:04:13Z")
No, you don’t have to use cologne. I was simply stating that if you do use cologne, wait a little bit before applying it so you can gauge how you actually smell, and that if you use cologne you shouldn’t use too much. But you don’t have to use cologne with pheromones. Some people do, and others don’t. I personally don’t because I like the cover smells that the pheromones already come with, and if close enough, women can still get slight smells of their cover scents after quite some time has passed. Most people that use colognes to cover up pheromone smell do so because they do not like the smell of the pheromones. Several people think products that are high in -none smell like cat pee, but I on the other hand, don’t feel this way. You will notice that some pheromones, after being on you for several hours, may start to get a BO smell to them. This is also usually with high -none products (like TUTH, IJ, A314), which is another reason some people use cologne with pheromones. Hope this cleared things up a bit for you! ---
**Author:** ![qbdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ecccb3/32.png) [@qbdude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/qbdude)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 11:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rookie-help/33559/11 "2009-10-25T23:13:26Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > No, you don’t have to use cologne. I was simply stating that if you do use cologne, wait a little bit before applying it so you can gauge how you actually smell, and that if you use cologne you shouldn’t use too much. But you don’t have to use cologne with pheromones. Some people do, and others don’t. I personally don’t because I like the cover smells that the pheromones already come with, and if close enough, women can still get slight smells of their cover scents after quite some time has passed. Most people that use colognes to cover up pheromone smell do so because they do not like the smell of the pheromones. Several people think products that are high in -none smell like cat pee, but I on the other hand, don’t feel this way. You will notice that some pheromones, after being on you for several hours, may start to get a BO smell to them. This is also usually with high -none products (like TUTH, IJ, A314), which is another reason some people use cologne with pheromones. Hope this cleared things up a bit for you! oh my. i want the one where i dont smell like cat pee, which one do i use? ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 11:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rookie-help/33559/12 "2009-10-25T23:24:46Z")
There’s no guarentee that a [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) will smell any better or worse than another. Everyone has different senses of smell. Some hate Game Scent but love Akuto. Others can’t stand Akuto, but love Game. It’s all a matter of taste. All I can say is try a few different things and see what you think. ---
**Author:** ![qbdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ecccb3/32.png) [@qbdude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/qbdude)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 11:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rookie-help/33559/13 "2009-10-25T23:58:08Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > There’s no guarentee that a pheromone will smell any better or worse than another. Everyone has different senses of smell. Some hate Game Scent but love Akuto. Others can’t stand Akuto, but love Game. It’s all a matter of taste. All I can say is try a few different things and see what you think. which ones do u use? ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 12:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rookie-help/33559/14 "2009-10-26T00:13:54Z")
> [@qbdude](#): > > which ones do u use? The pheromones I own are shown in my signature. But I am in no way an “expert” on pheromones in any sense of the word. I suggest reading some of the sticky threads, they have a LOT of information that is very useful for beginners. ---
**Author:** ![qbdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ecccb3/32.png) [@qbdude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/qbdude)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rookie-help/33559/15 "2009-10-26T01:32:41Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > The pheromones I own are shown in my signature. But I am in no way an “expert” on pheromones in any sense of the word. I suggest reading some of the sticky threads, they have a LOT of information that is very useful for beginners. o ok, but which ones make poeple smell like pee? ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2009, 10:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rookie-help/33559/16 "2009-10-26T10:57:15Z")
Sorry, but I’m not 100% sure. I know it’s the high -none ones. I know that NPA (from another site) is basically known for smelling like cat pee, but as far as the pheromones from androtics, im not totally sure. I think it’s safe to say though that TUTH, IJ, and A314 tend to smell like BO after several hours of wearing them because those all have high -none in them. I would try a quick search and see what comes up.