# Rough synthesis vs. "perfect" - P88 vs. P93 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 11, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rough-synthesis-vs-perfect-p88-vs-p93/40741 "2010-08-11T20:33:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 17
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2010, 6:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rough-synthesis-vs-perfect-p88-vs-p93/40741/17 "2010-08-14T06:41:52Z")
Does this mean I should return one of my TOTWs? šŸ˜® [After hyping P88 as the ā€œHoly Grail of Sex Pheromonesā€](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p88-the-urge-to-merge/33120), I donā€™t know whether to feel embarrassed or disappointed. Iā€™m both. If I had heard this from anyone other than Michael or Jasmin I would have refused to believe it! Here are the four things that I experience as separating P88 from P93: (1) Unlike P93, P88 has ugly side-effects including extreme irritation and (according to some) headaches. (2) I have described P93 as having [a throat chakra effect](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830/17), but I experience P88 affecting lower chakras, much sexier. (3) P93 is ā€œ[Caucasian Magic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830/7)ā€, but I donā€™t notice that effect with P88. (4) P88 has a trippy quality that I donā€™t notice with P93. This all reminds me of the _Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde_: > [@](#): > > Eventually, the potion began to run out, and Jekyll was unable to find a necessary ingredient to make more. Ironically, Jekyll learns that this most necessary ingredient was in the first instance of his experiments, sullied. Subsequent supplies are pure and thus lacking the quality that makes the potion successful for his experiments. His ability to change back from Hyde into Jekyll slowly vanished. Jekyll writes that even as he composes his letter he knows that he will soon become Hyde permanentlyā€¦ [Wikipedia] Jasmin, you have certainly convinced me of the difference between standard vs commercial grade chemistry. Iā€™m gonna be more careful where my vitamins come from, too! P88 and P93 are just different. And I _really_ liked P88!! I like P93, too, but it is just different. I guess I should start thinking of my beloved P88 as MX088. MX088 contains P93 and other [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) unknown and possibly unknowable, which are the result of a rough synthesis, less purified. My preferred dose of 20mcg P88 is in fact less than 20mcg of P93 with unknowns bringing it up to 20mcg. Is that a reasonable interpretation? Jasmin, do you have any idea what the unknowns might roughly consist of? Androstenone is known to exist in higher levels in noncaucasians. If androstenone were one of the ā€œimpuritiesā€ in P88 it could balance out the ā€œCaucasian Magicā€ effect of the P93 as well as cause irritability in a non-party atmosphere. I tried 10mcg P93 with 7.5mcg -none this afternoon. It seemed consistent with part of what I get from P88, but it still lacks the trippy, magical flow of P88, and there are not many unused mcg left to work with. Next, I think Iā€™ll try equal amounts of P93, androstenone and betanol. If I find a close approximation to P88, at some time in the future, Iā€™ll post it on [my P88 thread](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p88-the-urge-to-merge/33120). For reference, my previous discussions of P88 and P93 have occurred here - > [@P88 - The Urge to Merge](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p88-the-urge-to-merge/33120): > > I have been experimenting with P88 for the past several months and I have come to the conclusion that ninety-five percent of the men (and most of the women), who come to this website, are looking for P88. They may not know that they are looking for P88, but they probably are. Holy Grail of Sex Pheromones? Here are some of the earlier posts that piqued my interest: P88 seems to be a definite candidate for the Holy Grail of sex pheromones and a PUA favorite. It reportedly lacks the uglā€¦ and here - > [@P93 -- Caucasian Attractant or The First Known Racist Pheromone?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830/7): > > From the reports I have read, P93 attracts caucasians. Tater said especially blonds. Later he said readheads even more so. There seems to be a small consensus that it works best for noncaucasians, but for caucasians it will also attract other caucasians (more than other races), but it does not make the dramatic difference that it makes for noncaucasians wearing it. Some people have said that it has a slightly off-putting effect on noncaucasians. Others have said it also attracts noncaucasians, bā€¦ --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rough-synthesis-vs-perfect-p88-vs-p93/40741)._