# Rubbing the A314 Oil over the spray points? **URL:** \ **Category:** A314 Insider's Club\ **Created:** [June 8, 2011, 3:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rubbing-the-a314-oil-over-the-spray-points/50657 "2011-06-08T03:13:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Climax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@Climax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Climax)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 3:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rubbing-the-a314-oil-over-the-spray-points/50657/1 "2011-06-08T03:13:36Z")
I had this idea. What if I sprayed the mones first and waited for them to dry enough and than rubbed A314 oil over it? would this help bind whatever else I use to the A314 oils for a timed release and also bind them to the A314 steering molecules better? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 6:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rubbing-the-a314-oil-over-the-spray-points/50657/2 "2011-06-08T06:11:25Z")
> [@Climax](#): > > I had this idea. What if I sprayed the mones first and waited for them to dry enough and than rubbed A314 oil over it? would this help bind whatever else I use to the A314 oils for a timed release and also bind them to the A314 steering molecules better? I would assume that the oil would suppress what is underneath, however I don’t have any answer with any evidence. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 5:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rubbing-the-a314-oil-over-the-spray-points/50657/3 "2011-06-13T17:11:13Z")
There’s really only one way to find out for sure. When you test it out let us know and be sure to first test it without the oil. This way you create a base, then with the oil. ---
**Author:** ![rohitiyer10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ad7895/32.png) [@rohitiyer10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rohitiyer10)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 1:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rubbing-the-a314-oil-over-the-spray-points/50657/4 "2011-06-15T01:54:04Z")
I’ve done both spray mones on wrist then a314 on top and vice versa. There was definitely a bit of a ‘timed release’ aspect to it, but it also seemed to diminish the effects of the mones that were underneath the oil a tad. As with anything, try it for yourself and see if you like the results… then make sure to post about it 😉 ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 2:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rubbing-the-a314-oil-over-the-spray-points/50657/5 "2011-06-15T02:01:43Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > I would assume that the oil would suppress what is underneath, however I don’t have any answer with any evidence. _nods_ makes sense, since the oil has a slower diffusion rate. Personally I tend to keep my app points separate. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 12:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rubbing-the-a314-oil-over-the-spray-points/50657/6 "2011-06-15T12:08:56Z")
yes it works but there is an inverse relationship between time and intensity. The products are dosed so by doing anything that will slow diffusion and make the alc based products last longer will also soften the effects as you get fewer mones per hour leaving the skin. If you do decide to try it I suggest getting your products in double strength or higher. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rubbing-the-a314-oil-over-the-spray-points/50657/7 "2011-06-15T16:41:00Z")
You have to consider that oil based mones are, by my personal calculations, going to be 7X stronger than alcohol spray variants. So if you wanted [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) in oil you’d have to make it a 7X, but bear in mind you’d need to take in account the oil ratio as well. If you added 7X to oil it would no longer be 7X. So the oil has to account in the factor as well. It gets quite complicated really 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Climax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@Climax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Climax)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 3:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rubbing-the-a314-oil-over-the-spray-points/50657/8 "2011-06-19T03:27:49Z")
So lets assume I want to combine A314 + IJ but don’t want too much of IJ’s effects than this is a way of buffering down the IJ more, and the same could apply with TUTH possibly, so if TUTH + A314 is normally too strong to be work friendly than this could be a way to lighten up the TUTH, all while whatever being covered by the oil will last longer. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 4:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rubbing-the-a314-oil-over-the-spray-points/50657/9 "2011-06-19T04:32:31Z")
> [@Climax](#): > > So lets assume I want to combine A314 + IJ but don’t want too much of IJ’s effects than this is a way of buffering down the IJ more, and the same could apply with TUTH possibly, so if TUTH + A314 is normally too strong to be work friendly than this could be a way to lighten up the TUTH, all while whatever being covered by the oil will last longer. Possibly in theory, but If you really want A314’s effect with a milder jerk accent added to it I think you’d get better results this way… Jerk is 15 mcg of mones when used in a regular size bottle to go bottles spray about 80 of the volume of a full size bottle so that’s about 12 mcg Using a half spray from a to go should get you about 6 mcg of mones. Applying the spray to a different application point than your A314 should prevent the alc from possibly speeding up A314’s diffusion. But making sure the application point is well moisturized should help slow the diffusion so the jerk vibe is lighter still. So a half spray from a to go on a well moisturized area should add a pinch of jerk vibe to A314, without altering the A314 effects too dramatically. Now TuTH, I simply go heavy on A314 and add a single spray of regular strength TuTH. I personally found this to be more than sufficient for sexing up A314…any more than that and I come off too horny to be alpha. Never tried applying A314 over the tuth application spot though. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 3:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rubbing-the-a314-oil-over-the-spray-points/50657/10 "2011-06-20T03:54:39Z")
Sounds like to me that this is sort of like the do you butter the top or the bottom of your toast? Dr Seuss fans will get the reference. Everybody has their own opinion but not one is necessarily better than the other. I agree with not putting them directly on top of each other. ---
**Author:** ![hillcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ebca7d/32.png) [@hillcat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillcat)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rubbing-the-a314-oil-over-the-spray-points/50657/11 "2011-06-22T20:43:26Z")
What do you mean go heavy on A314 do you mean 4 drops and 1 spray of tuth??? ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2011, 12:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rubbing-the-a314-oil-over-the-spray-points/50657/12 "2011-06-23T00:04:55Z")
I consider 3 drops to be a very strong dose for A314, anything over that is “heavy” imo. I personally stick with three drops to a single spray, but you may find 4 or more works for you. I just mean the ratio of A314 should be a bit higher than the tuth in terms of drops to sprays. ---
**Author:** ![hillcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ebca7d/32.png) [@hillcat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillcat)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2011, 3:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rubbing-the-a314-oil-over-the-spray-points/50657/13 "2011-06-23T15:31:38Z")
Well i am going to run with this tonight at the club 4 drops A314 1 spray of Tuth And of course my cologne on top of it. Will defently report back my findings Could i had something for communication something like IH or IO or maybe even some IS what do you guys think. ---
**Author:** ![rohitiyer10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ad7895/32.png) [@rohitiyer10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rohitiyer10)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2011, 3:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rubbing-the-a314-oil-over-the-spray-points/50657/14 "2011-06-23T15:53:18Z")
Definitely run IO. I’d even cut down the 4 drops of A314 to 2 and add refresher drops throughout the night in like 2-3 hour intervals. That’s just me though. But definitely run IO with it. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 12:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/rubbing-the-a314-oil-over-the-spray-points/50657/15 "2011-06-24T12:15:32Z")
> [@hillcat](#): > > Could i had something for communication something like IH or IO or maybe even some IS what do you guys think. FWIW, my best results have been with hi-A314/TUTH on its own and communication has been the least of my worries. Its a superb **man of few words** mix and my lips have been far too busy to worry about idle chit-chat. 🙂