# saying hello **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [November 12, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/saying-hello/34028 "2009-11-12T16:55:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![eveofenchantment](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c68b51/32.png) [@eveofenchantment](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/eveofenchantment)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/saying-hello/34028/1 "2009-11-12T16:55:35Z")
I only hope that I have posted this in the right place. Aa a recovering technophobe with over stimulation issues, this is a very overwhelming place! My name is Eve and I am a 53 year old woman living in Michigan. I found this forum while searching for pheromone information on the internet (google). My interest in phermones started about 15 years ago when my cousin worked for the Athena Institute (a pheromone research organization). I was curious then, and more curious when a number of people over that time made references that I must have really amazing [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) because I attract men in a certain way. This was often said at strange times, such as when I had snuck out of the house without even showering at 8:00 in the morning to pick up bagles or a paper. Somehow I would attract guys even when I looked like, well, an unshowered woman who had just crawled out of bed. Its not my raw looks as I am rather average looking. Its more “something about me”. Last year I started my thrid business which is one in which I am working with hundreds of young, sexy women. My industry is one in which physical attraction is critical to success and the competition is overwhelmningly stiff. Although I was somehow miraculously holding my own, I decided to up my game a bit by trying pheromones. I ordered some from the Athena Institute and used them for a couple months. I can’t tell exactly if they are working, but my sense is that they are helping. I am ready to reorder and thought I would learn more about the pheromones offered here. The Athena Institute pheromones are only one kind - male or female. I am intrigued by the varieties here and would like to learn more about which would most help me. That’s my story and I am sticking to it. _smile_ Looking forward to learning more and, mostly, trying out the wonderful products here. best, Eve ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/saying-hello/34028/2 "2009-11-12T17:53:30Z")
Hello Eve and welcome to the forum. Wow - a cousin who worked at Athena. Neat - that was one of the first phero products I tried. Contrary to what you may think there are actually several ladies here who are pretty knowledgeable on the womens’ products. I know them but generally try to leave the recommendations to those with first hand exerience. That being said - there are several products here that can help depending on what you want to do. Not exactly sure what you need to do from the description but kinda guessing … Instant Sexiness A is designed to get a guys attention in a very agressive manner … [Instant Sexiness B](https://phera.com/product/kitten/) tends to be a more low key … but still an attractant - depends on the route you want to take. Ishine is designed to help people feel happy to be around you. IO will help with general chatty conversations. IH will help people feel connected to you and often helps open deeper conversations. I hope this helps some - if you need further clarifications or habne more questions just ask. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/saying-hello/34028/3 "2009-11-12T17:55:25Z")
Welcome Eve. Sounds like you have a long road ahead of you. Because your performance is based on looks or perceived looks, I would suggest the instant sexyness line of products for your first start. Although typically you cannot go wrong with [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) and Instant shine (In my opinion) Mixes with Copulins will be your biggest asset, as they add to the sexual desire and are a slight power booster for women (men too) ---
**Author:** ![ladyofthewoods](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ladyofthewoods/32/1288_2.png) [@ladyofthewoods](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ladyofthewoods)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/saying-hello/34028/4 "2009-11-12T18:54:30Z")
Hi Eve and welcome to the forum! Bosshank made some really good suggestions there. I love the [Instant Sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) line! One thing though, you probably want to try the Instant Sexiness that’s opposite of your personality. For instance, if your the shy retiring type (unlike me 🙂, you would want the A version. If your the confident, strong, sometimes intimidate men type (I’ve got me all over that 😉 ) you will want to try the B version. Also any woman over 40 probably needs to add copulins to that list. Have fun experimenting! ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 8:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/saying-hello/34028/5 "2009-11-12T20:11:37Z")
Welcome to Pherotalk Eve! Well sexy lady you came here so we can help you add even more sexiness. 🙂 In addition, to the [pheromone](https://a314.com/) recommendations that were already given I would add the MX135 . This is a favourite of the ladies and makes you the center of attention. I would hurry, there are only 5 in the store right now and the ladies go ga ga over these. I am excited that you are here and hope that you will become a part of what were are doing here. I am sure so many of us especially the younger ladies like myself can learn from your experience. Hope to see you around this forum often. Your GC was issued! ---
**Author:** ![eveofenchantment](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c68b51/32.png) [@eveofenchantment](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/eveofenchantment)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/saying-hello/34028/6 "2009-11-12T21:28:25Z")
Thanks for the great suggestions. A great place to start. Do you know the difference between these hormones and the one sold by Athena Institute? Thanks, Eve > [@bosshank](#): > > Hello Eve and welcome to the forum. > > Wow - a cousin who worked at Athena. Neat - that was one of the first phero products I tried. > > Contrary to what you may think there are actually several ladies here who are pretty knowledgeable on the womens’ products. I know them but generally try to leave the recommendations to those with first hand exerience. > > That being said - there are several products here that can help depending on what you want to do. Not exactly sure what you need to do from the description but kinda guessing … > > Instant Sexiness A is designed to get a guys attention in a very agressive manner … > > Instant Sexiness B tends to be a more low key … but still an attractant - depends on the route you want to take. > > Ishine is designed to help people feel happy to be around you. > > IO will help with general chatty conversations. > > IH will help people feel connected to you and often helps open deeper conversations. > > I hope this helps some - if you need further clarifications or habne more questions just ask. ---
**Author:** ![eveofenchantment](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c68b51/32.png) [@eveofenchantment](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/eveofenchantment)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/saying-hello/34028/7 "2009-11-12T21:31:46Z")
OK, its been one afternoon and I am already overwhelmed! Holy cow, how do you pick? Can you tell me why you would choose the opposite for your personality? Also, what are copulins? Do people regularly mix formulas? Are there recipes? How do you know what is working? Thanks! Eve > [@ladyofthewoods](#): > > Hi Eve and welcome to the forum! > > Bosshank made some really good suggestions there. I love the Instant Sexiness line! One thing though, you probably want to try the Instant Sexiness that’s opposite of your personality. For instance, if your the shy retiring type (unlike me 🙂, you would want the A version. If your the confident, strong, sometimes intimidate men type (I’ve got me all over that 😉 ) you will want to try the B version. Also any woman over 40 probably needs to add copulins to that list. > > Have fun experimenting! ---
**Author:** ![eveofenchantment](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c68b51/32.png) [@eveofenchantment](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/eveofenchantment)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/saying-hello/34028/8 "2009-11-12T21:35:35Z")
Thanks, lovely lady. Where so I find my GC? So is this something one would use on occasion or every day? I don’t always want to be the center of attention. That would be great during a party, but most of my work is one-on-one and I would want my partner to feel like the center of attention. best, Eve > [@kelsey](#): > > Welcome to Pherotalk Eve! > > Well sexy lady you came here so we can help you add even more sexiness. 🙂 > > In addition, to the pheromone recommendations that were already given I would add the MX135 . This is a favourite of the ladies and makes you the center of attention. I would hurry, there are only 5 in the store right now and the ladies go ga ga over these. > > I am excited that you are here and hope that you will become a part of what were are doing here. I am sure so many of us especially the younger ladies like myself can learn from your experience. > > Hope to see you around this forum often. > > Your GC was issued! ---
**Author:** ![eveofenchantment](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c68b51/32.png) [@eveofenchantment](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/eveofenchantment)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/saying-hello/34028/9 "2009-11-12T21:37:12Z")
I notice you have a wishlist and toy list in your signature. May I ask what that is all about? Eve > [@ladyofthewoods](#): > > Hi Eve and welcome to the forum! > > Bosshank made some really good suggestions there. I love the Instant Sexiness line! One thing though, you probably want to try the Instant Sexiness that’s opposite of your personality. For instance, if your the shy retiring type (unlike me 🙂, you would want the A version. If your the confident, strong, sometimes intimidate men type (I’ve got me all over that 😉 ) you will want to try the B version. Also any woman over 40 probably needs to add copulins to that list. > > Have fun experimenting! ---
**Author:** ![eveofenchantment](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c68b51/32.png) [@eveofenchantment](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/eveofenchantment)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/saying-hello/34028/10 "2009-11-12T21:43:57Z")
I am not sure if I understand the long road comment, do you mean trying to figure all this out? LOL. Much of my work is healing, surrogate work… hands-on help for those who have serious psychologically-based functioning problems as well as those with social phobias relating to women. Being found appealing is important and so far has not been a problem, although I am battling the visual nature or the male species. But what seems to be most important is to create a feeling of connection, a sense that although we are working together professionally that it feels very natural. This is whats needed for me to find the space to do the healing work. Most of my competition is made up of counterfeit practitioners who get by on their raw physical assets but do not get the results that a legitimate practitioner gets. Its more spiritual and ethereal than physical, although without the attraction I can’t get my foot in the door. Is your recommendation still the same? With gratitude, Eve > [@Wolfy](#): > > Welcome Eve. > > Sounds like you have a long road ahead of you. > > Because your performance is based on looks or perceived looks, I would suggest the instant sexyness line of products for your first start. > Although typically you cannot go wrong with Instant Honesty and Instant shine (In my opinion) > > Mixes with Copulins will be your biggest asset, as they add to the sexual desire and are a slight power booster for women (men too)