# Sceptical **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [October 2, 2008, 2:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sceptical/20714 "2008-10-02T14:49:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 17
**Author:** ![lukester19](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lukester19/32/1953_2.png) [@lukester19](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lukester19)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 2:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sceptical/20714/17 "2008-10-12T14:45:36Z")
For some people in the forum i have been reading in logs that instant openness does not seem to be working to the same point as cttm or vise versa. I think there is a different ratio of pheremones something like 70:30 in cttm and 50:50 in the instant openness but some one could correct me. With me the instant openness was nothing to special but i upped the instant shine and it sure helped. Instant shine seems to be my big arsenal. Next time i would need to by 2 times strength to save on sprays. keep up the log the results will come for me they came fast but for others it could take time but they will come. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sceptical/20714)._