# Sci-fi Convention **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 18, 2016, 1:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sci-fi-convention/65494 "2016-01-18T01:10:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MediocreMorsov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mediocremorsov/32/1232_2.png) [@MediocreMorsov](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MediocreMorsov)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2016, 1:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sci-fi-convention/65494/1 "2016-01-18T01:10:32Z")
Hey guys, newbie here. So here’s my situation: I’ve always been skeptical/curious about pheromones and I’ve decided to give them the ultimate field test(for me at least). So in less than a month, I’m going to try some on for a sci-fi convention where I know there’s always a TON of cute cosplayers around.I plan on buying a travel spray for it and I want to know which travel spray would work best, AMMO or [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)? Note: The girls at sci-fi cons tend to be a little desensitized because of all the guys approaching them.I’m looking for a travel spray that would make me stand out and maybe help build some attraction. Looking forward to updating you guys! -Morsov ---
**Author:** ![Spectrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Spectrum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Spectrum)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2016, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sci-fi-convention/65494/2 "2016-01-18T03:28:24Z")
Hi , Welcome to the forum. In my opinion better would be if you should wear both. Ammo and IS. For me A314 in highly competitive environment has given exceptional hits. But unfortunately A314 is out of stock as of now . Another product which can be of help is [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) but use it if its a closed environment and use it with sexual may be a spray of TUTH. Keep posting and take care ---
**Author:** ![MediocreMorsov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mediocremorsov/32/1232_2.png) [@MediocreMorsov](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MediocreMorsov)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2016, 3:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sci-fi-convention/65494/3 "2016-01-18T03:49:01Z")
> [@Spectrum](#): > > Hi , Welcome to the forum. > > In my opinion better would be if you should wear both. Ammo and IS. > For me A314 in highly competitive environment has given exceptional hits. But unfortunately A314 is out of stock as of now . > Another product which can be of help is MX297 but use it if its a closed environment and use it with sexual may be a spray of TUTH. > > Keep posting and take care Hey Thanks man. Yeah I saw alot of people mentioning that combo around here. But I also failed to mention I only have enough money for one of the two at the moment. Plus this is my first buy so I want to see if even using [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) will even work for me( I know everyone’s biology is a little different). But I love what I’m hearing on this site. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2016, 5:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sci-fi-convention/65494/4 "2016-01-18T05:29:40Z")
MX297 can be great. But I know squat about cosplay and stuff. I’d recommend Mx297, **or not** , based on the answer to this question: Is that a place where people dress up to have fun and party around, or do they really go around acting with the Bat-Attitude (not making fun here, just want to understand to help you better, it’s a completely foreign universe to me)? If it’s the first one, dude, go ahead, you’ll have a blast and find MX297 very potent. If it’s the second one, mmm, definitely not the right product for the job. In the second case, I’d say get IG (A314 being temporarily out of stock), IG will boost your status and make you rock solid in terms of emotions. Might help put you in the role. In all cases, use [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) to differentiate yourself from everyone wearing a costume, you’ll be in a great mood and people will feel great around you. For the chick hunting aspect, use Ammo, this will keep you away from the friend and / or intimidating superhero zone. The thing to remember for any superhero, do not wear mones under the spandex = useless (lol)! ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2016, 1:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sci-fi-convention/65494/5 "2016-01-18T13:10:21Z")
Well if you made a proper Introduction you should qualify for the $25 GC so both of those should run around $80 plus shipping for the bigger bottles. It is always an option you could get a few Togo bottles and a few pipettes and transfer some of the pheromones to a Togo bottle to. I just like the bigger 30ML bottles because I think they are a better value. But I think both of those should go great for your goal ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2016, 4:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sci-fi-convention/65494/6 "2016-01-18T16:42:59Z")
Mones under spandex can also get very smelly, quite fast - you don’t ant any “what died down there?” moments. Get them out where they can breathe/diffuse! I agree with the above - something social/sexy or smart/sexy is probably your best option, so [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/)/TUTH, Ammo/IS or Ammo/IS/IG are all quite viable. In the absence of A314, adding a bit of P75 (start @2.5mcg) to IG also boosts its status somewhat, although its not a complete replacement. Three other mones that might help in a secondary/steering role to your primary mix/products you are P83 - Which is to help with physical disinhibition, TAC - which gives a goofy/playful/relaxing vibe or P97 - which helps with a “dark fascination” element and has proved interesting around the sort of girls who are into goth/cosplay stuff here. Approx 10mcg per spray would be a viable concentration to start with, with actual dose probably in the 20-40mcg range. ---
**Author:** ![MediocreMorsov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mediocremorsov/32/1232_2.png) [@MediocreMorsov](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MediocreMorsov)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 1:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sci-fi-convention/65494/7 "2016-01-19T01:37:42Z")
Thanks for your input guys! For the record, I don’t plan on dressing up in any hero costume or anything like that so I don’t have to worry about that spandex problem lol. And for anyone wondering it’s taking place in a convention center. So there’s gonna be alot of people walking around,crowds, lines, photo ops, and people just sitting around. So it’s not like a party or anything(although there will be some that night). By the way, I two questions. Has anyone tried mixing Mx297 or P97 with the [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)/IS combo? And how long did it take to get your $25 GC? ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 2:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sci-fi-convention/65494/8 "2016-01-19T02:02:39Z")
The gift certificate will be issued to you by a forum moderator in your email, it usually takes a day or two. I saw in your welcome thread that you have PM’ed back Dee A and Dee A is a moderator 🙂. Regarding the mixing of Ammo with [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/), personnaly, I have had mixed results. MX297 is not the easiest to mix with other products. I find it works fine with IS, but sometimes backfires with Ammo. But used in the right circumstances (wild party), MX297 can be so compelling to the ladies that Ammo might be superfluous anyway 🙂. Other users will probably chime in with their own experiences. Regarding P97, I’ll let others cue you in. I have very scarce knowledge of that one in solo testing for now, let alone about its use in mixes. ---
**Author:** ![mrseeker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mrseeker/32/5177_2.png) [@mrseeker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mrseeker)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 9:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sci-fi-convention/65494/9 "2016-01-19T09:49:58Z")
Since this year I am also starting to go to sci-fi conventions (me & friends are starting to build a dalek), and I have to say: Those girls out there just want to have fun and not to find a potential boyfriend. They will forget you the instant they leave you. So, [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) is a good one to use, Ammo works also really well and IS is also a good hitter. MX297 works really well on its own. I prefer it over Ammo for the fact that it gives more of a “party” vibe than Ammo, which I find more like a “Leisure Suit Larry”. I would say try both and see what works best, but MX297 as a “party starter” is much better for conventions where they want to have fun. One other recommendation: Start talking about their costume & character. Keep away from any “womanizing” things (like the too tight spandex), simply ask if they made it themselves, compliment if they did, and dig into the history why they wanted to dress like that and how they made it. Trust me, girls will open up way faster than when you first ask them to go on a picture with them and then start to ask questions. If you go to the conventions where most girls are “promo girls”, then forget it. A314/IG works better there, simply because they get paid to lure you in. They are what I tend to call “Venus Fly Traps”. Those women look really great, they promise you golden mountains, but in the end you will get nothing out of them. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 12:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sci-fi-convention/65494/10 "2016-01-19T12:14:58Z")
I’ve not tried mixing [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/)/P97 - 297 is an excellent social/engaging mix on its own and can suffer from being combined with other pheros to differing extents. Ammo is usable alongside it but TBH, you may do better with TUTH as it adds a sexual kick which is kept in good balance by the MX297. ---
**Author:** ![MediocreMorsov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mediocremorsov/32/1232_2.png) [@MediocreMorsov](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MediocreMorsov)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sci-fi-convention/65494/11 "2016-01-19T15:29:53Z")
> [@mrseeker](#): > > Since this year I am also starting to go to sci-fi conventions (me & friends are starting to build a dalek), and I have to say: Those girls out there just want to have fun and not to find a potential boyfriend. They will forget you the instant they leave you. So, MX297 is a good one to use, Ammo works also really well and IS is also a good hitter. > > MX297 works really well on its own. I prefer it over Ammo for the fact that it gives more of a “party” vibe than Ammo, which I find more like a “Leisure Suit Larry”. I would say try both and see what works best, but MX297 as a “party starter” is much better for conventions where they want to have fun. > > One other recommendation: Start talking about their costume & character. Keep away from any “womanizing” things (like the too tight spandex), simply ask if they made it themselves, compliment if they did, and dig into the history why they wanted to dress like that and how they made it. Trust me, girls will open up way faster than when you first ask them to go on a picture with them and then start to ask questions. > > If you go to the conventions where most girls are “promo girls”, then forget it. A314/IG works better there, simply because they get paid to lure you in. They are what I tend to call “Venus Fly Traps”. Those women look really great, they promise you golden mountains, but in the end you will get nothing out of them. Nice to meet a fellow whovian! And I agree. I’ve been reading alot of the results for MX297 and I have to say it should work best for this environment. I’ve been to several cons before and have pretty had the same experience where I’m just another guy in the crowd. That’s why I wanted this to be my first [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) test. If this stuff works, I’m easily gonna notice the difference lol.And this con doesn’t have any promo girls per say so its gonna be alot of cosplayers and your average nerd girl types. And yeah I don’t make those womanizing type compliments.In this day and age, that’s a good way of getting you kicked of a con lol. Also I’m actually writing a story with a main character who’s a female cosplayer. So I plan on doing some interviews that day as well as just having fun with my pals. Btw, do you know how many sprays you can get out of a 5mL togo bottle? I’m gonna do 2-3 initial sprays with some refreshers(cause I’ll be there for at least 10 hours and the mones seem to max out at around 6) ---
**Author:** ![MediocreMorsov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mediocremorsov/32/1232_2.png) [@MediocreMorsov](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MediocreMorsov)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sci-fi-convention/65494/12 "2016-01-19T15:35:54Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > I’ve not tried mixing MX297/P97 - 297 is an excellent social/engaging mix on its own and can suffer from being combined with other pheros to differing extents. Ammo is usable alongside it but TBH, you may do better with TUTH as it adds a sexual kick which is kept in good balance by the MX297. Have you tried or heard about anyone mixing [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) with IS? I’m just curious because I heard that one can go with just about anything. ---
**Author:** ![mrseeker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mrseeker/32/5177_2.png) [@mrseeker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mrseeker)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 3:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sci-fi-convention/65494/13 "2016-01-19T15:45:09Z")
5ml usually gives you 40-50 sprays (with 50 being the absolute max). I can get 20 days with 2 sprays per day… I am not the big Dr. Who fan, but a friend of mine wanted to build a Dalek and I just simply could not say no. its going to be the first Dalek ever built in the Benelux, and I want to make sure it works from the get-go. ---
**Author:** ![MediocreMorsov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mediocremorsov/32/1232_2.png) [@MediocreMorsov](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MediocreMorsov)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 3:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sci-fi-convention/65494/14 "2016-01-21T03:07:29Z")
> [@mrseeker](#): > > 5ml usually gives you 40-50 sprays (with 50 being the absolute max). I can get 20 days with 2 sprays per day… > > I am not the big Dr. Who fan, but a friend of mine wanted to build a Dalek and I just simply could not say no. its going to be the first Dalek ever built in the Benelux, and I want to make sure it works from the get-go. Cool that’s more than enough for me(Just ordered it by the way). And nice but just be warned, if do ever get into it, you’re gonna have binge quite a few episodes at this point lol. ---
**Author:** ![MediocreMorsov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mediocremorsov/32/1232_2.png) [@MediocreMorsov](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MediocreMorsov)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 2:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sci-fi-convention/65494/15 "2016-01-22T14:23:27Z")
Ok so I’m currently waiting for my MX297(my first mone) and I’ve been doing a bit of research. Will a normal shower before application be okay? I hear some soaps strip away some of your body’s natural pheromones(Idk if that’d be a good or bad thing before I apply my stuff). Also do any of you have any personal stories about what happened when you applied MX297 with TUTH? I found some posts about it but they didn’t talk too much about the results. ---
**Author:** ![mrseeker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mrseeker/32/5177_2.png) [@mrseeker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mrseeker)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 2:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sci-fi-convention/65494/16 "2016-01-22T14:50:10Z")
From my experience, TUTH is similar to having your dick swinging out of your pants. if you have a girlfriend who is already horny, TUTH will give her that extra push to make it even more awesome. If you have someone who is NOT interested in you, then TUTH will make it your worst nightmare. About showers: I usually recommend natural soap, or soap without stuff “to mask bad odors”. Anti-transpiration sprays are usually not that great either. Most soaps are okay, its when there is some sort of anti-deodorant involved that it gets tricky… EDIT: Shaving also makes it really tricky… ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sci-fi-convention/65494/17 "2016-01-22T17:36:14Z")
> [@MediocreMorsov](#): > > Have you tried or heard about anyone mixing MX297 with IS? I’m just curious because I heard that one can go with just about anything. You can but this is one pairing where IS isn’t really needed - [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) is a happy/pleasant/social mix as it is. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sci-fi-convention/65494/18 "2016-01-22T17:39:26Z")
TUTH itself is indeed very overtly sexual - but the [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) balances it very well indeed and runds it out in a happy/social/fun direction, wwhich makes it very usable indeed - although I did tend to wait till the MX297 was taking effect and I had plenty of good IOIs/Kino etc before I added the TUTH and I found that very productive indeed. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MediocreMorsov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mediocremorsov/32/1232_2.png) [@MediocreMorsov](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MediocreMorsov)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sci-fi-convention/65494/19 "2016-01-22T18:24:26Z")
> [@mrseeker](#): > > From my experience, TUTH is similar to having your dick swinging out of your pants. if you have a girlfriend who is already horny, TUTH will give her that extra push to make it even more awesome. If you have someone who is NOT interested in you, then TUTH will make it your worst nightmare. > > About showers: I usually recommend natural soap, or soap without stuff “to mask bad odors”. Anti-transpiration sprays are usually not that great either. Most soaps are okay, its when there is some sort of anti-deodorant involved that it gets tricky… > > EDIT: Shaving also makes it really tricky… Yeah that’s what I’ve been hearing but I’m trying to find out what happens when you apply TUTH after putting on [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/). I heard they can go together but I’m not sure what kind of reactions people are seeing from it. So something like this is good right?(it’s what I use): [Aveeno Moisturizing Bar: Fragrance Free : Target](http://www.target.com/p/aveeno-moisturizing-bar-fragrance-free/-/A-13337871#prodSlot=medium_1_53&term=soap) ---
**Author:** ![MediocreMorsov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mediocremorsov/32/1232_2.png) [@MediocreMorsov](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MediocreMorsov)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sci-fi-convention/65494/20 "2016-01-22T18:43:12Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > TUTH itself is indeed very overtly sexual - but the MX297 balances it very well indeed and runds it out in a happy/social/fun direction, wwhich makes it very usable indeed - although I did tend to wait till the MX297 was taking effect and I had plenty of good IOIs/Kino etc before I added the TUTH and I found that very productive indeed. 🙂 Ok cool.So if you were getting some those good IOI’s and kino with just the [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/), then what big changes did you notice once you added the TUTH?( I mean like did you end up getting more of the same kind of IOI’s/Kino, did women get more direct/sexual with you having to escalate it? Did it increase the number of women coming onto you, etc.) I’m wondering because I want to see the differences in escalation between the two.