# Scotties123 Journal **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [September 12, 2009, 3:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scotties123-journal/32407 "2009-09-12T15:34:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![rhuang22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rhuang22/32/636_2.png) [@rhuang22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rhuang22)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 7:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scotties123-journal/32407/61 "2009-11-18T19:26:15Z")
Nice nice. It was funny how she kept talking/touching you even though you guys were supposed to be silent. Keep up the good work. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scotties123-journal/32407/62 "2009-11-27T19:28:57Z")
Hey guys, I know it’s been a while since my last report. I’m sorry! I came down with swine flu so I didn’t do any testing for like 4 or 5 days. But, I do have a few reports to put in. I’ll keep them separate posts. Test with mx313 from the raw power pack. 9:30am - 2 sprays sides of neck 12:45pm - 1 spray front of neck Self effects: Didn’t notice anything from it. Not a big fan of the scent. Not sure what it is, but it smells like really strong potpouri. Effects on Others: Didn’t see anything from the younger girls at my 10am meeting. Something happened with the group leader, but I’m not sure if it was mone related. She was kind of teasing me the entire time. We have assignments that have to be completed before each session, and there was 1 question out of 20 that I didn’t understand, so I didn’t do it. These assignments are NOT graded for accuracy and they only grade based on whether or not we complete it. Well, she noticed I didn’t do this one question and I explained to her that I was very confused by it. Another student spoke up and said that she was confused by it as well and that she didn’t answer it either. For some reason, the group leader teased me about it the entire meeting. She kept bringing up that I didn’t answer the question, saying things like I didn’t finish the work and all kinds of garbage. But the thing is, she wasn’t saying it in a stern or angry voice. She was saying it while smiling and laughing 😕. And she was almost giggling each time she teased me about it. I didn’t notice anything at my 1pm meeting or at the library. Conclusions: I know the raw power pack is supposed to be packed with -none, but I didn’t get my usual -none effects. I remember reading somewhere on here that each mone in the raw power pack seems to work quite differently, and some need more sprays than others. I think it may be possible that 2 sprays was just too much -none for the younger girls, but enough to get a reaction from the older black group leader. Some more testing with these are needed. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2009, 7:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scotties123-journal/32407/63 "2009-11-27T19:50:47Z")
Went out this past monday to celebrate taking my biggest exam in the past year and a half. I decided to use the bar mix I had used a couple times before. 3 drops A314 - neck and jaw 3 sprays EoW - all around neck 1 spray 5mcg TUTH - front of neck/chest 3 sprays IFM - sides of neck and top of head Self Effects: This mix really makes me feel amazing. I love it. Effects on Others: It was a monday night, so there weren’t that many people out. We went to a bar and grabbed a drink, but there weren’t that many people there and they were playing very loud and annoying House/Techno music. I don’t mind techno, but this was the kind of techno that requires LSD and glow sticks lol. We went to another bar, but it was empty so we just left. Hit a third bar, and same thing there. We said screw it, and decided to hit the strip club. There weren’t that many people there and there were about 6 or 7 girls working. 2 were hot, a couple were cute, and the others were nasty. So me and my friend were sitting by the stage having a drink and enjoying the show. It didn’t take long for a couple girls to come and sit on our laps. Just a quick sidenote, I almost never buy lapdances at stripclubs. I’ve gotten them plenty of times, but they have always been free (sweet talking strippers pays off lol). I don’t like having to pay for affection, and $20 to get blue balls isn’t my idea of a good time. The girl that sat on my lap was the worst stripper I’ve ever met. Not because of her looks, but because of her personality. She was SOOOOOO boring. She just sits on my lap and says Hi. Then she is totally quiet. Doesn’t say anything at all. In fact, she was looking at the mirror behind me and fixing her hair while she was sitting on my lap. So I try making some small talk with her and she gives me short, 1 word answers, and then goes back to being quiet. It started annoying me so I just flat out told her I wasn’t buying a dance and I was just there to sit back and relax. She says she’ll be back later and leaves. So then a stripper came on the stage and this was one of the hotter strippers and she was a straight up emo psycho hardcore rock kind of girl. She finishes her dance and comes over and sits by me. I talk to her for a while, both of us flirting, but of course it’s her job. Turns out this girl was the wierdo she looked like…she told me she was a pagan (worships the devil). We talk for a bit and she asks me if I want a dance. I told her I was just there to sit back and relax and didn’t plan on getting dances. She leans in, licks and bites my neck, and grabs my junk. I made a joke out of it and told her that now people would think I went to see Twilight and some wierd girl bit me thinking shes a vampire. She cracked up and we talked a little bit more. It seemed like she didn’t want to leave, even though she knew I wasn’t getting a dance. She did end up going because she had to go earn some money. A little bit later the other hot girl (Latina) came and sat by me. I talked to her for a while too, and we actually had a pretty good conversation going. She didn’t ask me if I wanted a dance, and we just sat and talked for a while. I ended up asking for her number and I’m not sure how honest she was, but she told me she really wanted to give it to me, but she couldn’t because she was working. I asked her if it was really because she was working or because she just didn’t want to give it. She told me she was actually really happy I came in because she hasn’t talked to a “such a great guy” in a long time. She said if she had met me anywhere else she would be all over me. This could have been her trying to work game on me, but take it for what you will. Before leaving I tried to get that other strippers number, but she said she was engaged. Again, this could have been complete BS, but whatever. I still had fun. Conclusions: I love this mix. Whether or not it had any effects on the strippers, it still made me feel great the entire night. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2009, 8:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scotties123-journal/32407/64 "2009-11-27T20:29:32Z")
Went out Wednesday night and had a great night. Again, I used my new bar mix, with some p83 added. 3 drops A314 - neck and jaw 3 sprays EoW - all around neck 1 spray 5mcg TUTH - front of neck/chest 3 sprays IFM - sides of neck and top of head 25 mcg [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) Self Effects: New haircut + clean shave + dressed nice + mix = Me feeling like a million bucks. Effects on Others: I met up with a friend and a couple of people he knew at a club. We got there pretty early and the dancefloor was empty. Luckily, this place has a lounge area with live band and we just hungout there for a while until the main floor got a bit busier. We were sitting down having drinks, and we were all just having a blast. Lots of joking around and fun. There was a group of realllllly hot girls nearby (mid 20s) and I noticed a few of them staring at me, smiling, and giggling to each other. They did this like 3 or 4 times. The lounge had a mini dance floor and our table was right in front of it. This dancefloor is smaller than the main one, but it was still a pretty decent size. A few of the girls from that group went out to the floor and started dancing, and they decided to dance literally right in front of me. They were grinding on eachother, rubbing eachothers’ bodies, making out with each other, all kinds of stuff. The best part, while they were doing this they would look towards me to see if I was looking 🆒. I didn’t want to give them too much attention (even though I really wanted to watch lol) so I didn’t stare too much. I was talking to my friends and one of the girls comes up and rubs and pinches my ear and when I look at her she bites her lip and smiles. I smile at her, lick my lips, and get back to my convo with my friends. Like 15 minutes later, while I’m talking to my friends, the same girl comes and grabs my hand and says “Come dance with me sexy”. So I get up and dance with her for a little bit. While dancing she digs her face into my neck and just has her head laying on my chest/shoulder while we are dancing (which actually made it a little bit difficult to dance normal lol). I lift her chin up with my hand and makeout with her for a minute, then she licks and bites the crap out of my neck. I tell her, “if you’re gonna do that to me, you’re getting it right back” and I bite her neck too. Here is where everything flipped upside down…she says “why did you do that?” I told her I was just repaying the favor. Then she says “But I can’t have any marks on me, I’m married. I can’t go home with marks on my neck” 😮😮😮. I said “You’re married?!” and she said yeah. So then I said “Okay, I’m done with you, bye.” I do not and will never mess with someone’s fiance or wife. I don’t do that kinda crap and it actually bothers me a lot just hearing about other people doing that. I went and sat back down with my friends. Later in the night I was walking back from the restroom and she was walking towards it with her friends and she grabbed my junk while she was walking past me. I just acted like it didn’t happen and didn’t even acknowledge her. I went to grab a drink and at the bar there was an older (mid 30s) and pretty good looking woman sitting there. I was waiting for my drink and the woman starts rubbing my arm and then let’s her hand travel to…other places 😛. We talk for a little bit, and even though she was good looking for her age, I wasn’t really into her so I got back to my friends. The main dancefloor picked up a bit and we went out there to dance. The two people my friend had brought were boyfriend and girlfriend so of course they were dancing with each other. For some reason my friend, who is usually a really good wingman, was just NOT doing it this time. He told me later it’s because of religious reasons and I told him he didn’t have to explain it any further and I didn’t ask him to wing anymore. I tried dancing with a few different girls, but they were all with at least 1 or 2 friends and there is only so much 1 guy by himself can do with a group of dancing girls. With groups of 2 I even tried getting the girls to sandwich me to try and keep both girls involved, and with both groups of 2 girls I tried this with, 1 of the girls would be into it, but the other one wouldn’t. At this point because we had gotten there early, we had already been there for a few hours so we decided to call it a night. My friend and I went out to eat and at the restaurant we were seated by a table of 3 highschool-looking girls. The entire time they kept staring at me and giggling, but my conscious kept me from pursuing that 🙄. I have a +/- 4 years rule. I might go a little bit older, but I won’t go after a girl more than 4 years younger than me (I’m 23 by the way). Conclusions: I’m loving this mix more and more every time I use it. It really is great. It incorporates all aspects of attraction. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2009, 10:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scotties123-journal/32407/65 "2009-11-27T22:52:06Z")
Sounds like one hell of a night scottie! You damn horndog!😃 I’ve got to admit that mix is very impressive, the only ingredient I’m missing is EOW but I’ve got everything else so I might give it whirl. Oh and nice job with the married/engaged girl. You’ve got good morals but what I want to know is what her boyfriend is thinking. I feel sorry for the guy, his girl out and about making out with some other dude…awful.😠 And if they plan on getting married this is the sort of thing that will destroy the relationship should it ever get out. I share your beliefs, if a girl has a bf/husband I want nothing to do with them. Period. Karma can come back and bite you in the butt and I’m not going through that crap. If I find out she has one then NEXT. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 11:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scotties123-journal/32407/66 "2009-11-30T23:55:12Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > I’ve got to admit that mix is very impressive, the only ingredient I’m missing is EOW but I’ve got everything else so I might give it whirl. I use the EoW for instant social proofing, but I think the mix would work fine without it. > [@](#): > > Oh and nice job with the married/engaged girl. You’ve got good morals but what I want to know is what her boyfriend is thinking. I feel sorry for the guy, his girl out and about making out with some other dude…awful.😠 And if they plan on getting married this is the sort of thing that will destroy the relationship should it ever get out. Yeah, I feel bad for her husband, having a wife that is going out and doing stuff like this. > [@](#): > > I share your beliefs, if a girl has a bf/husband I want nothing to do with them. Period. Karma can come back and bite you in the butt and I’m not going through that crap. If I find out she has one then NEXT. I’ve had this kind of thing happen to me several times before and I always walk away. I feel like people that low aren’t even worth my time. On a lighter note, I have a report from last night as well as from today. I’ll make them separate, as usual. So last night I went out with a friend to grab a drink. I wore my club mix (see last post). Self Effects: I usually feel like an unstoppable force when I wear this mix, but for some reason this time I felt good, but that was about it. I also felt a bit more self-concious and changed my shirt a few times. Don’t know what that was about, maybe p83? Effects on Others: It was raining very lightly and I expected less people to be out, but wow was it a dead night. We went to the graduate bars instead of the undergraduate bars that we normally go to. The graduate bars are more chilled back and relaxed and we just wanted to sit back and enjoy a couple drinks so we decided to go there. Checked 3 different bars that were all almost completely empty before settling on a sports bar that was still pretty dead. We grabbed some drinks from the bar and took a seat at a table. We were sitting down talking when some random very very cute black girl comes to our table. She asks me if I have a “tailor made” and I told her I had no idea what that was. Apparently a tailor made is another way of saying commercial cigarrete (versus hand rolled). I made a joke about it and told her normal people just ask for a cigarette. I told her to sit down and she did. We talked for a while, me her and my friend. I noticed that my friend was flirting with her even though it was pretty clear that I had been also. I noticed that while we were all talking she would be looking at me, even when she was answering something my friend asked her. I got a bunch of playful touching and hitting, all the good stuff. She had a pointy green hat that made her look like some kind of christmas elf and my friend told her she reminded him of the game Zelda. She got super excited from this and then they started talking about video games. My friend brought up that he plays world of warcraft and they started talking about that. I basically sat there quietly and drank while this went on. I’m not a big gamer. She was there with a guy friend of hers, whom she referred to as “just a friend” at least 10 times in 5 minutes, which was her way of saying that she is available. After she had been sitting with us for about 20 minutes her guy friend came to the table and just stood there awkwardly while we kept talking. She kept asking me all kinds of questions, like she was trying to get my entire life story and she seemed extremely impressed with everything I told her. It was like my life was the most fascinating thing ever lol. Then she gets real close to me, and whispers in my ear “Are you gay?” 😕😮😕😮😕. I responded with “what?! No I’m not gay. Why would you think that?” She replied with “You’re too good looking to be straight, so I figured you were probably gay”. I’m guessing this was supposed to be a compliment of some kind, but I think there are better ways of telling someone they are good looking. We talked some more and I was just about to get her number, when my friend asked her right before me. She looked at him, looked at me, and said “ummmm, sure” after a quiet pause. I could tell she seemed kind of disappointed that I didn’t ask for it and my friend did. Ah well, nothing I could do at this point. I don’t go after girls my friends show invested interest in. My friend apologized later in the night and said he should have left it for me, he just thought she was really hot so he asked for her number. She stayed and talked for a little longer, and her weird friend (this guy was seriously weird as hell) talked a bit too. She told me she was sorry if she had offended me earlier, and I told her that she didn’t and that I took it as a compliment (I was confused at the time though). She said that she loved that I was so confident because other guys would have gotten pissed off. I told her I know how to dress well and I look good, and if that makes me appear gay, then so be it. Then she told me I smell amazing, and I made a joke that me smelling great probably wasn’t helping my case 😛. She cracked up at this. It got kind of late, and before she left she gave my friend a quick hug, then came to me and gave me one of the tightest hugs I’ve gotten in my life, then put her arms around me, talked to me for a couple minutes, then gave me another huge hug before going. Me and my friend left shortly after. Nothing else happened at the bar other than this, but it was pretty empty. Conclusions: My mix strikes again! 😃 It worked just like it usually does. I don’t think the pheros had much to do with her coming to the table because she was kind of far (about 15 feet). I hope my ingredients last long enough to give this mix many more runs. It’s the best and most effective mix I’ve ever used, and hasn’t disappointed me once. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 12:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scotties123-journal/32407/67 "2009-12-01T00:05:56Z")
My other report is from today. I decided to give mx352 a run because it’s been a while since the last time I used it. 11am - 2 sprays sides of neck 3:30pm - 1 refresher spray front of neck Self Effects: I didn’t really notice anything. I felt a little more upbeat after the first 2 sprays, but that faded after a few minutes. I’ve noticed that once the neroli cover dies down a BO smell starts to emerge. I know this mix of wildflower’s has -none in it, so it must have been that. Effects on Others: Nothing at the library in the morning, nothing at my 1pm meeting, and nothing at the doctor’s office from 3:45-5. Conclusions: I remember Wildflower commenting that 327 (351) is supposed to be the more consistent of the two mx’s, so maybe that’s what I was experiencing? I don’t know. More testing needs to be done with this. I have a patient interview tomarrow, so I won’t be using any mones. I don’t want to risk any adverse reactions to the mones that the patient might have. EDIT: I just went back and read my previous 352 report and I see that I had similar results when I had first tried it out, and only started noticing subtle effects after 4 sprays. I think I need to start with 4 sprays for this mx and maybe get up to 5 or 6 with refreshers. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scotties123-journal/32407/68 "2009-12-03T22:20:14Z")
Yesterday’s report, with today’s to follow. Yesterday I decided to wear 9:30am 2 drops A314 - both sides of neck 2.5mcg TUTH - front of neck/top of chest 1 spray IH (2x) - front of neck 12:45pm 1 refresher spray IH (2x) - top of head Self Effects: Felt great after the A314 and TUTH. I was pumped up. Added the IH and sure enough, after a few minutes I started feeling more relaxed. Very consistent with what IH has done for me in the past. Effects on Others: Some funny things at my 10am meeting. I sit next to the doctor group leader (older black lady) and I’ve noticed that she tends to respond well to my pheros. Back before I started wearing pheros around her she was pretty indifferent towards me. Nice, but indifferent. Since I started wearing mones around her I’ve noticed her paying more attention to me and she tends to look at me more during the meetings than the others in the group (7 other people) even though I’m directly next to her and having her neck turned totally sideways probably isn’t the most comfortable position to be in for 2 hours 🙄. Well, like I said, I was sitting by her and had my book open to an article that we were discussing. She had the same book in front of her, but for some reason (most likely mones) whenever we referenced something from the article, she would lean over and look at my book which was opened up in front of me. She did this like 5 or 6 times until she finally caught herself and actually said outloud “Why do I keep using yours, I have mine in front of me” and then laughed about it. I thought this was funny. I also noticed that the other students in the group were looking at me whenever she would lean over to me and they would look at me with a confused look of “what the hell? why is she doing that?” 🙄. I also noticed that the younger girl that sits to my right was much more talkative with me than she usually is. In fact, this girl never really talks to anyone…at all. She tends to just sit there quiet the entire meeting and never says anything, but this time she would make small jokes with me periodically throughout the meeting 🙂. The girl that gave me the sex look last time sat across the table this time around, so I didn’t really notice much from her. Everyone else was a decent distance apart as well, so the only noticeable hits were from the leader and the girl next to me. At my 1pm meeting I can’t say I noticed anything from the two girls sitting next to me. I was however really trying to pay attention to the patient case we were learning about, so I probably wasn’t paying much attention to any reactions from those girls. However, something did happen that was out of the ordinary. There is a third girl in the group that always sits across the table from me, out of phero reach. My seat is positioned right by the door, and when she first walked in the room I noticed that as she walked past me she slowed down and turned her head towards me a bit. I also noticed that she would get up every 15-20 minutes to throw something into the trash bin (which is close to the door) and I could hear her sniffing when she walked by me 😛. At the end of the meeting she asked me where I planned on studying for the rest of the day and when I told her it would be in the computer lab, she said “Oh awesome, I’m gonna study there too”. I have studied in this computer lab for over a year now and it’s really just the “regulars” that study there. I have never once seen her studying in that room, so I guess something made her want to study there this time 🆒. I went to eat after the meeting, and took a small nap and didn’t end up getting to the computer lab until a couple hours after the meeting had ended. I didn’t see that girl there, but she may have left by the time I got there. I didn’t notice much the rest of the day at the (empty) library. Conclusions: I’m about 99% sure how IH works on me now. Mellows me out and calms me down. Totally reverses any pump-up effects of A314 and TUTH. This is fine for school, but I’ll keep the sprays on the back of my head if I use it when I go out. I prefer the pumped feeling to the mellow. I like the results I saw at my meetings, and I like this mix. I think I may have found a nice balanced mix for daily use. I may mess with it a bit and see if the results differ, but right now I think it’s pretty good. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 10:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scotties123-journal/32407/69 "2009-12-03T22:39:52Z")
Today’s report, given much earlier in the day than usual because I’ve isolated myself to study and don’t expect anything for the rest of the day. 10:30am 2 drops A314 - jawline 1 spray ammo - front of neck Self Effects: Woke me up when I felt I was about to pass out from exhaustion. More on this later. Effects on Others: I had woken up at 5am (after only 4 hours of sleep) because I had to shadow a doctor at a local hospital. I didn’t use any pheros before the shadowing because the doctor is a Neonatologist (works with pre-mature and sick newborns) and I didn’t want any of the babies to have an adverse reaction to the mones. I think it would have been interesting if I had worn mones only because there was a verrrry cute resident doctor that kept staring at me. When doing the rounds (going around and looking at each baby) she would always stand next to me and a few times she would stand close enough to have her leg against mine or her arm against mine (and there was plenty of room to spread out 🙂). She was even trying to have full conversations with me during the rounds (this is a NO NO) and I had to just smile and not answer her because I didn’t want to disrespect and be rude to the doctor I was shadowing (the head doctor). I wish there hadn’t been so many doctors and other people around because I would have gotten her number ☹. **I love that this happened without mones on because it’s a perfect example of how much is you compared to how much is mones.** I got back from the hospital at 10am, ate real quick, applied the mones, and then left to get to a required 11am lecture. I was EXHAUSTED and felt like I was going to fall asleep while driving the one mile to my school. About 10 minutes after applying the mones I was completely awake, and actually a bit hyper. I sat in the back of the lecture hall (usually do this so I can get out fast when it ends and avoid waiting for 150 other students to leave first), and I didn’t notice much during the lecture. Some friends were sitting by me (3 guys) during the meeting, but I can’t say I noticed anything out of the ordinary from them. They did comment that I was pretty “cracked out” for someone that was up since 5am lol. One thing worth noting is that a few students were sitting in the row in front of me and while I’m cool with everyone in the class, it isn’t too much more than “Hi” and “How are you” with many of them, including the ones that were in front of me. A few times during the lecture they would turn around to me and make a joke about the lecture, which I thought was different because they usually just sit there quiet. Went home, got some much needed sleep, and now I’m in an isolated room at the library, so no more hits expected. Conclusions: I like this combination, but I don’t think it will be getting very regular use from me. I used it out of pure curiosity, but I have like 6 or 7 sprays of to-go AMMO left and I can’t do FF22 (and ammo is out of stock anyways) so I’m trying to conserve it for when I really need it. I think a bit of IO and maybe half a spray of TUTH with the A314 would give me similar results to AMMO. I’ll have to give this a try some time. ---
**Author:** ![rhuang22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rhuang22/32/636_2.png) [@rhuang22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rhuang22)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 1:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scotties123-journal/32407/70 "2009-12-04T01:39:32Z")
Good report. And I agree with you on “I love the fact that mones wasn’t involved.” But it is also occurrences like that that makes me question the level of effectiveness of mones. It’s unfortunate that I don’t feel any self effects from -none. I was thinking about trying copulins. Have you had any self effects with Just copulins? ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 2:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scotties123-journal/32407/71 "2009-12-04T02:02:38Z")
> [@rhuang22](#): > > Good report. And I agree with you on “I love the fact that mones wasn’t involved.” But it is also occurrences like that that makes me question the level of effectiveness of mones. I agree completely. I know if I had been wearing mones at the time I would have contributed it to the mones. That’s why I try gauge the effectiveness of pheromones by their ability to make the extra-ordinary happen. Normally I would have to put in a good amount of work to pull a 9 or 10 at a bar/club, but with my Shocker mix it seems almost effortless to pull them. But yeah, sometimes it’s hard to tell what is mones and what isn’t. When I apply mones I try to “forget” that I have them on and then when it comes time to write the report I try to remember if I had noticed anything out of the ordinary. Of course with new mixes I have to make a concious effort to pay attention and look for signs, but with regularly used mixes that I know the effectiveness of, I just go with the flow and try to rationalize later on what I feel the mones did versus what I did. > [@](#): > > It’s unfortunate that I don’t feel any self effects from -none. Have you tried purposely ODing? Not necessarily to see what happens with others, but to see what it does to you? There are some mones that just don’t work for some people. Like me and alpha -nol. I get ZERO self effects. I’ve even used like 4 sprays of spaceland at one time and I felt nothing from it. But beta -nol tends to mellow me out. I guess it’s just the name of the game. We want it all, but just can’t get it all. > [@](#): > > I was thinking about trying copulins. Have you had any self effects with Just copulins? The cops dilution I have is in a 5mL to-go. I got it as a gift from another member, and right now it’s the only cops I have. I’ve been trying to save it for my Shocker mix, so I haven’t been using it solo or with other tests. I’m probably going to buy a bottle of EoW when my to-go runs out, but that won’t be until January-ish when I get more student loans 😛. I like it because of the instant social proofing it gives. Gives off that vibe of “I have no problem getting other women”. I will say that I’ve kind of noticed that it adds a bit to the cockiness I get after the A314 and TUTH. I notice that after I add the EoW it kind of amps up the prowl-mode that TUTH puts me in. I think **a lot** of it is your mindset. I sometimes use TUTH before lifting weights and it amps up my aggression, but doesn’t really put me too much into prowl mode. But when I use it before going out to a bar or party, prowl mode clicks on. I think your current mental state and focus drives the mones to produce specific effects, or to amp up your natural emotions. ---
**Author:** ![rhuang22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rhuang22/32/636_2.png) [@rhuang22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rhuang22)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 6:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scotties123-journal/32407/72 "2009-12-04T06:08:13Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > I think **a lot** of it is your mindset. I sometimes use TUTH before lifting weights and it amps up my aggression, but doesn’t really put me too much into prowl mode. But when I use it before going out to a bar or party, prowl mode clicks on. I think your current mental state and focus drives the mones to produce specific effects, or to amp up your natural emotions. Yeah, I think the same thing. It all depends on your mindset. When you say social proofing, what does that mean? ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 2:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scotties123-journal/32407/73 "2009-12-04T14:36:59Z")
> [@rhuang22](#): > > Yeah, I think the same thing. It all depends on your mindset. > > When you say social proofing, what does that mean? The appearance (whether fact or fiction) that you are close with other women. I usually do this, with or without pheros, by making sure that if there is a certain girl I have as a target I let her see me talking to other girls. This lets her know that not only can I get other women, but also that she needs to up her game if _she_ wants to get _me_. Cops kind of does this by giving off the vibe that I’ve recently been with another girl. Social proofing also shows that other women “approve” of me, which increases my value. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 7:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scotties123-journal/32407/74 "2009-12-04T19:12:34Z")
^^This.😃 Another good way to do this is some A314 which automatically raises your value. Girls are attracted to guys that are a challenge, that might take some work getting. Bear in mind that these girls are usually what we would call “Alpha” girls, most shy girls will ironically “shy away” from “alpah” guys because they feel they don’t have a shot. This is why it’s important to know your target because different girls require a different approach.😉 ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scotties123-journal/32407/75 "2009-12-04T20:33:21Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > ^^This.😃 > > Another good way to do this is some A314 which automatically raises your value. Girls are attracted to guys that are a challenge, that might take some work getting. Bear in mind that these girls are usually what we would call “Alpha” girls, most shy girls will ironically “shy away” from “alpah” guys because they feel they don’t have a shot. This is why it’s important to know your target because different girls require a different approach.😉 Yup. That’s why I feel that bars and clubs are great places to use A314. The alpha chicks tend to be the 9s and 10s and are also more aggressive (sexually) than the shy girls. But, it’s also fun to go after the shy girls because most of them aren’t used to guys going after them, so it ends up being pretty easy to pull them, especially when you got some A314 on. Gets them thinking, “wow this guy is out of my league and still wants me”. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scotties123-journal/32407/76 "2009-12-08T00:08:54Z")
Today I decided to wear IG solo. It’s been a while so I figured, what the heck, why not. Didn’t feel like wearing anything else. 9:30am - 2 sprays sides of neck 12:30pm - 1.5 refresher sprays front of neck (missed with first shot) Self effects: after the first 2 shots I got a small boost in energy and felt like I needed to stop BSing around in my apartment and start studying. It would have been nice if this feeling lasted more than 10 minutes. I didn’t feel much from the refresher spray. Effects on Others: Didn’t see anything at the library. At my 1pm meeting I noticed what I think may have been negative reactions. For the past several weeks, I’ve noticed that the girl to my left will randomly turn her head 90 degrees and just stare at me for a few seconds before returning her gaze to the books in front of her or to the doctor group leader. She is also typically very chatty with me. This time I noticed she was quieter than usual and I didn’t get any random looks from her. Just FYI, I normally see her looking at me using my peripherals. I’ll be looking at someone else while they are talking, but I can see that she is looking at me. I also noticed strange behavior from the indian girl to my right. When she responds well to my pheros she usually shows some skin by uncovering her left shoulder or moving her hair, and she angles her body towards me even though she is talking to people in front of her or to her right. This time I didn’t notice anything like that, but did see her constantly changing her position in her seat. She would lean towards me for a few minutes, then lean in the opposite direction for like a half hour, then lean back towards me for a couple minutes, then lean away again. After leaving the meeting I ran into a really cute hispanic girl that I’m pretty good friends with. I noticed that whenever I tried to end the conversation and start walking away, she would bring something up, as if she was trying to keep me around. This is the girl that sits next to me during the patient interview reviews (mentioned in past reports) and she has gotten a nice dose of phero from me at these meetings. I’m also positive she likes me, even without pheros, because she has always been kind of flirty with me and sometimes goes out of her way and walks across the entire library just to say hi. I have another interview review on Friday, so I’ll see what I put together to test on her then. I am now isolated in a study room, so I don’t expect any more results for the remainder of the day. Conclusions: IG had its usual effects on me. As far as the girls in my meeting, I think 3.5ish sprays of IG may be a bit much for them without any buffers added. I get much better results from A314, so any further IG testing will probably be random or when I get bored or curious about mixing it with something. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 2:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scotties123-journal/32407/77 "2009-12-11T02:17:10Z")
Yesterday’s report, today’s to come later. 2 drops A314 2.5mcg TUTH 2 sprays IFM 1 spray IH(2x) Self Effects: Felt great after the A314 and TUTH, and then this mellowed out to a calm confidence after IFM and IH were added. Effects on Others: At my 1pm meeting I noticed that the two girls that sit next to me were agreeing with just about everything that I said. I was also getting some major DIHLs left and right from them. Had a lecture at 3pm. I sat in the back like I usually do and a friend of mine came and sat next to me. She was less than a foot away. I noticed that she would just turn and stare at me for a few seconds and she did this every 10 minutes or so. She also moved closer to me, even though we were already really close to each other. She was practically laying on my arm. One more thing is that she kept trying to start conversations with me, but I was paying attention to the lecture so we didn’t talk much during it. After the lecture ended I was waiting for a friend that was speaking with the lecturer and this girl usually leaves right when a lecture ends, but this time she stuck around and waited with me for my other friend to finish. We waited for like 15 minutes too, and this girl has like zero patience for that kind of stuff. Conclusions: This mix did pretty much what I figured it would. It’s a nice balanced mix that could get pretty frequent use if it wasn’t for IFM being so hard to come by (and me having such a limited amount). I’ll most likely get a bottle of chemset A1 when my IFM is up. ---
**Author:** ![rhuang22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rhuang22/32/636_2.png) [@rhuang22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rhuang22)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 7:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scotties123-journal/32407/78 "2009-12-11T07:37:36Z")
neattttt. i only have like 1/4 of a to-go IFM left… not even enough to test it accurately. I have not been reporting lately because it’s finals week and what not and just a shit load of stress. (Crammings, hectic “to-do’s” schedule, community service). Just rarely any opportunity to test accurately. And with winter break right around the corner… mehh. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 2:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scotties123-journal/32407/79 "2009-12-11T14:34:14Z")
> [@rhuang22](#): > > neattttt. i only have like 1/4 of a to-go IFM left… not even enough to test it accurately. > > I have not been reporting lately because it’s finals week and what not and just a shit load of stress. (Crammings, hectic “to-do’s” schedule, community service). Just rarely any opportunity to test accurately. And with winter break right around the corner… mehh. Yeah, my semester is winding down too. Dec 21st last day! Whooooo! Have you thought about getting chemset A1 from LS? I’ve never used it before, but it should work the same as IFM. My understanding is that IFM is just A1 with small amounts of steering pheromones to curb the depression it causes in some men. ---
**Author:** ![rhuang22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rhuang22/32/636_2.png) [@rhuang22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rhuang22)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scotties123-journal/32407/80 "2009-12-11T17:10:36Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > Yeah, my semester is winding down too. Dec 21st last day! Whooooo! Have you thought about getting chemset A1 from LS? I’ve never used it before, but it should work the same as IFM. My understanding is that IFM is just A1 with small amounts of steering pheromones to curb the depression it causes in some men. No, I am not too curious about A1… yet. Lol. If funds are looking right, I think the first thing I’ll get is TAF or P79. I kind of want to try mystery boy too LOL. Because ever since my frat, I’ve met quite a number of gay people and I want to try mystery boy just for laughs. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scotties123-journal/32407.md?page=3) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scotties123-journal/32407.md?page=5)