# searching for PROVEN pheromones **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [January 29, 2007, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/searching-for-proven-pheromones/1816 "2007-01-29T18:58:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![immel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8e7dd6/32.png) [@immel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/immel)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2007, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/searching-for-proven-pheromones/1816/1 "2007-01-29T18:58:40Z")
hello partypeople The message i got when i registered said i should introduce myself. Well I’m Immanuel 20 years,living in Bavaria. I going to go to a class trip in two week where i wanna fuck finally(the 40 year-old virgin scares me),so I’m searching for a neutral pheromone parfum which has scientifically proven(by an independent laboratory) [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/),as i don’t want to pay 50€ for garbage. So if there are PROVEN classics,i would be grateful if you would give me the link. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2007, 7:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/searching-for-proven-pheromones/1816/2 "2007-01-29T19:21:42Z")
> [@immel](#): > > hello partypeople > > The message i got when i registered said i should introduce myself. > Well I’m Immanuel 20 years,living in Bavaria. > I going to go to a class trip in two week where i wanna fuck finally(the 40 year-old virgin scares me),so I’m searching for a neutral pheromone parfum which has scientifically proven(by an independent laboratory) pheromones,as i > don’t want to pay 50€ for garbage. > So if there are PROVEN classics,i would be grateful if you would give me the link. Hey immel, thanks for the introduction! Welcome to the forum! There have been a lot of research on pheromones but most of us here have realized that success in a lab doesn’t translate to success in the real world with pheromones. Pheromone use is dependent on lots of factors inclding user’s body chemistry, persona, environment and also preferences of targets etc. It will be great to have scientific backing on any product but we have to understand the limitations of a lab designed study. Most of the time it’s not worth the efforts for a pheromone company. Good pheromone companies such as Androtics tend to rely on user feedback to finetune and improve the products and test their effectiveness. Reuslts are provided by real users from real life experiences. In my opinion that’s more valuable. Let me know your comments. Have you tried any [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) so far? ---
**Author:** ![immel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8e7dd6/32.png) [@immel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/immel)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2007, 7:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/searching-for-proven-pheromones/1816/3 "2007-01-29T19:39:11Z")
hi nbully79 yes i have.But i didn’t like it because it was smellable,it was not neutral(couldn’t find the english word) I’m searching for a neutral one. I don’t want to buy three several ones for attraction,comfort,seducation,i just want one basic one.A basic classiker for every use. So which is the parfum everybody of you has in his bathroom? there’s always one topseller ---
**Author:** ![immel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8e7dd6/32.png) [@immel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/immel)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2007, 7:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/searching-for-proven-pheromones/1816/4 "2007-01-29T19:57:28Z")
ok the small one is the one which i’ve tested. Does anybody knows the other one?i could buy this at ebay,but don#t know if it’s worth the money. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2007, 8:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/searching-for-proven-pheromones/1816/5 "2007-01-29T20:59:13Z")
> [@immel](#): > > hi nbully79 > yes i have.But i didn’t like it because it was smellable,it was not neutral(couldn’t find the english word) > I’m searching for a neutral one. > I don’t want to buy three several ones > for attraction,comfort,seducation,i just want one basic one.A basic classiker for every use. > So which is the parfum everybody of you has in his bathroom? > there’s always one topseller I haven’t tried the product you have mentioned. Maybe someone else has and will probably report on it. The best product for your needs will be I guess Ammunition. It’s designed to be a simple grab-and-go product and is very good at garnering female attention. The smell is also of a top quality cologne and the pheromone smell doesn’t bleed through. Here is the link “AMMUNITION” (In the Battle of the Sexes!) [Pheromone Cologne](https://a314.com/shop/) for Men :: Spray Pheromones :: Androtics Direct/SmartMones ([AMMO – Sexual Attraction Pheromone Cologne For Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)) If you are not very sure you can try a smaller size ([AMMUNITION Cologne for Men - TO GO! :: Pheromones To Go™ (Portable / Travel Size) :: Androtics Direct/SmartMones](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)), which costs around 10$. With your discount coupon of 15$, you will be able to try it for free and see if you like it. You get your discount coupon when Jasmin sees your post and sends it to your email or through PM. ---
**Author:** ![immel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8e7dd6/32.png) [@immel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/immel)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2007, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/searching-for-proven-pheromones/1816/6 "2007-01-29T22:17:38Z")
but iT’s not unscented is it? Cause i want do pour REALLY 😛 much of this stuff over myself so it’s no good if it smells ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2007, 11:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/searching-for-proven-pheromones/1816/7 "2007-01-29T23:08:23Z")
> [@immel](#): > > but iT’s not unscented is it? > Cause i want do pour REALLY 😛 much of this stuff over myself so it’s no good if it smells No, it’s scented! The scent is added to hide the pheromone odor (since most pheromones have a natural odor, some have less and some have more) while simultaneously increasing it’s diffusivity so that it hits other people’s nose (people you want to affect) rather than just sticking to your skin, and provide directionality (so they know it’s coming off you). You can buy unscented products but they are more difficult to work with and get good results from, since it’s harder to ensure good controlled diffusion. If you are looking for a [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) which has no smell you won’t find one, since like I said before, all pheromones have a natural human smell (they are human secretions afterall). If you find a product which is unscented and has no smell that is most likely because it doesn’t contain any real pheromones and is FAKE! Also, pouring pheromone product on yourself is not going to help you as you will probably OD on it and will get negative or no results. You have to experiment with any product to find the right dosage to make it work for you. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 4:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/searching-for-proven-pheromones/1816/8 "2007-01-30T04:22:59Z")
oh my,immel. please do some reading here. you are using small doses to create an attraction, using alot will cause an OD that you will forever have burned in your mind as the day you had to use an entire bar of soap…😃 seriously, take a few hours to peek through the threads, you will never find one pheromone that does it all, because your body hasnt created a pheromone that does it all,LOL. i hate to say it, but no one here will tell you the pheromones sold here will do what the other pheromones you have looked at do. know why? because people that **scam** will tell you anything you want to hear. with that said, i own alot of these products. NOTHING has let me down. i am a social person who initiates conversation and knows nothing will make someone do anything _against their will_. with these mixes, i can get attention… make people smile more…encourage good feelings…maybe the stuff i wear makes other people feel sexxay? 😛 read some. you’ll be pleasantly surprised 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Matthew1982ct](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/matthew1982ct/32/1157_2.png) [@Matthew1982ct](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matthew1982ct)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 6:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/searching-for-proven-pheromones/1816/9 "2007-01-30T06:31:56Z")
_**“i hate to say it, but no one here will tell you the pheromones sold here will do what the other pheromones you have looked at do. know why? because people that scam will tell you anything you want to hear.”**_ Very well said! Matt ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 1:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/searching-for-proven-pheromones/1816/10 "2007-01-30T13:07:16Z")
Some very good advice from Lor, as always… You have to do your part. If I don’t feel like talking and don’t talk to somebody, I can’t blame pheromones, I can only blame myself for not talking… ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 9:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/searching-for-proven-pheromones/1816/11 "2007-01-30T21:31:54Z")
Wow! Thanks guys for giving immel some valuable guidance. immel, thanks for posting! I hope you’re steered the right way soon. I know you have some hidden charisma in there… time to let it all out. The ladies will flock to you 🙂 Anyhow, your gift certificate has been sent. Try some stuff out, but do read a lot of the forum members’ posts. Pheromones aren’t a magic cure all panacea pill, but they DO do _some_ magic. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2007, 3:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/searching-for-proven-pheromones/1816/12 "2007-02-02T03:03:11Z")
I’m going to chime in but basically repeat what everyone else is saying. Just about ALL [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) will have a scent to them. It’s unavoidable. The degree of scent can vary however, and part of it is what _you_ or _others_ perceive. I have heard some people say a certain pheromone product smells strongly, but I have the same product and don’t detect the same intensity they report. Other products that smell bad to me others find pleasant. It’s all relative, and can be based on a number of factors including your own body chemistry. Basically there is no such thing as an unscented or “neutral” pheromone product. Many will have _added_ scents to act as a cover. Some will be subtle like the neroli orange scent package, others are specifically designed to be strong enough to act as a cologne (like Ammunition does). About the only thing you can do is find a cologne or fragarance _you_ like to help conceal the natural scent of the pheromones. You often don’t have to use a large amount of a pheromone product so covering it is not always a big problem. Less is often better than too much when it comes to pheromones. It will take time and research to find what you like and what works for you. The small “To Go” sizes are great for this as you can sample quite a range of products at a reasonable price. And take the time to read as much here as you can. Many questions have already been answered. Much ground has already been covered. ---
**Author:** ![dinan\_3er](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dinan_3er/32/766_2.png) [@dinan\_3er](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dinan_3er)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2007, 8:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/searching-for-proven-pheromones/1816/13 "2007-02-04T20:15:27Z")
> [@immel](#): > > ok the small one is the one which i’ve tested. > Does anybody knows the other one?i could buy this at ebay,but don#t know if it’s worth the money. at first I thought photo was a joke but then I saw that immel posted it.