# Second Field Report ( PP + Androstenone ) **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 27, 2007, 10:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-field-report-pp-androstenone/3863 "2007-05-27T10:39:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![omicronau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7feea3/32.png) [@omicronau](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/omicronau)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 10:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-field-report-pp-androstenone/3863/1 "2007-05-27T10:39:30Z")
So last weekend I used 4x PP and 1.5 sprays of androstenone and got some pretty crazy results from it, the original thread is below > [@Pheroproof Field Report (I'm THE ONE)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-field-report-im-the-one/3792): > > Ok, so here is my field report for the weekend that just passed…Still unsure if Pheroproof by itself did much…but on Saturday night I decided to do something extra…so here it goes..But keep in mind, both nights i had my “A” game with me, and i had a lot to drink..i mean alot, but not to the point I couldnt control myself, I have a high tolerance for alcohol. About 15-18 drinks on friday and saturday night around 25 drinks.. I was good drunk, not bad drunk smiley Friday night I went to a 21st… So despite the great results that I achieved, not many people encourage the use of extra androstenone with the concern of ODing. But capone and nibbla have requested that I try this mix again to see if the results are consistent. Also for my own confirmation, and knowledge. This time I decided to use 4.5 x PP and only 1 spray of androstenone. I also brought along with me [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) To Go. I got pretty much the same effects as last time, lots of EC, girls giggling and wandering around my vicinity, arss grabbing etc. Now for the hits, I hooked up with a 18yr old hot blonde girl, and she later told me " Btw I think you should know this, I have a boyfriend ".. that put me off her and I just kept some distance so she wouldnt get too attached. So I kept drinking and chatting to heaps of girls, and came across a really beautiful and mysterious looking eurasian and decided to go for her. I went to the bathroom and sprayed on almost 1 spray of Instant Shine To Go. After chatting to her, I ended up hooking up with her, got her number, and I would definately see this girl again. She seems to have a very interesting personality and good sense of humour. Not one of those hook ups where you go yea she was hot but boring and dumb etc. This one is for keeps 😃 What I have found after 3 nights out with PP is I reckon pheros prob just make attraction easier, its a grease to make your game slide smoother. I used to think it was like a magic potion. Like I said in my previous report its not unusual that Ill be hooking up with a chick on nights out, but since using PP + none I found it make the process of doing so easier. So I guess once again the mix has worked. Only this time no threesomes 😛 This mix right now is working great for me, but I wouldnt mind tweaking it a little…I reckon it can be fine tuned a little better..Just not sure how to go about it or how to tweak it.. From this 2nd report, any suggestions from fellow forum members and especially futurist?? ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 1:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-field-report-pp-androstenone/3863/2 "2007-05-28T01:42:10Z")
Thank you for the second report! Those nights are very similar to mine when I wear [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)-TUTH-IFM-A314. Girls are always around but what happens to me is that if you go talk them you have to be very respectful because they can be frightened because of high -none levels until you they are more confident. Without pheros there are not so many girls around and are less talkative but you dont have to be worried about if touching them an arm can be aggresive for them. In a few days Pheroproof will arrive home and I will try it and post reports too, i want to see how well is -none buffered in PP. IMHO -none in AMMO doesn’t have almost any of the sexual vibe it should because of the buffering. I think we will have to find a cute point of mixing. Until them I’l try PP a little 😉 ---
**Author:** ![omicronau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7feea3/32.png) [@omicronau](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/omicronau)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 11:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-field-report-pp-androstenone/3863/3 "2007-05-28T11:26:54Z")
Capone, I think we have slighty different styles, but i hate to say this, im not very respectful lol. Not in the bad sense, just that Im not careful with my words, sometimes they come across rude but still funny.. Do you wear ammo, TUTH, IFM and a314 all at once?? ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 12:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-field-report-pp-androstenone/3863/4 "2007-05-28T12:06:27Z")
The best results for me in clubs has been proven to be from that mix. 1x Ammo(2x) 1x Turn Up The Heat 4x [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) 2x A314 When I dont want to have a sexual vibe i quit TUTH and when I want to have it I dont wear AMMO and put on me 2x TUTH. I know it would be a serious mix (withous -ols) but statistics say this has the best sexual results in clubs (i’m very good at opening, so i need to potentiate attraction only), some days I wear Instant Shine and -ols if girl is under 26. I would like to ask you if you notice any bad reactions to wearing so much -none (4x PP), from males or from females (friends or not), do you think -none in PP is well buffered so it doesn’t give bad reactions from people but it still has a sexual vibe? Thank you 😉 ---
**Author:** ![omicronau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7feea3/32.png) [@omicronau](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/omicronau)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 12:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-field-report-pp-androstenone/3863/5 "2007-05-30T00:32:24Z")
To be honest capone, I havent noticed too much, cos everytime im out with it on, I’m going out clubbing/partying, so i wouldve drunk heaps..in other words im drunk so i dont notice too much, unless its something i want to notice. But ill say this, I BELIEVE that the PP + none mix has taken me slighty further with the ladies n the men. I havent noticed any bad effects as of yet, but then again Gegogi said he can swim in this stuff which im guessing its bcos of its buffering? Also, I dont know if it helps but I always make the girls come and lean in to me when they talk in clubs - so they smell more mones 😛 ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 4:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-field-report-pp-androstenone/3863/6 "2007-05-30T04:16:47Z")
Thank you for answering 😉. By the way, Gegogi can swin in -none because of his ascendancy, it’s one of a few rare cases here, normally if you wear lots of -none, you get negative reactions from men and maybe from girls (they think you are too sexually agressive), but this depends on what kind of places you use it, of course 😉. Anyway -none is very useful with ovulating women, that’s a fact. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![perronec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perronec/32/1280_2.png) [@perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/perronec)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 3:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-field-report-pp-androstenone/3863/7 "2007-06-02T15:38:09Z")
In the afternoon yesterday, I applied 3 sprays of PP. it was fun, a good time was had by all. the attention was there the boost to conversation was there. Fun afternoon. I then did the same thing again maybe 3 hours later (3sprays). It was great all over again for our party that night. Im wondering if PP is covering the -none as well as i think it might be, or if my body doesn’t produce much -none by itself thus allowing me to wear alot of -none. i excersize, im 22 years old, caucasian. I’ve never had an OD with -none but i’ve never really tried to have one either. What do you guys think? ---
**Author:** ![Marc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8dc957/32.png) [@Marc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marc)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 4:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-field-report-pp-androstenone/3863/8 "2007-06-02T16:41:03Z")
I wonder about the caution that I’ve read urged by other contributors in relation to androstenone. PP has 6.25mcg per spray and Futurist recommends up to 4 sprays on his website i.e. 25mcg of -none. Yet there are often warning posts on the forum about using more than 1 or 2 sprays of 2.5mcg Turn Up The Heat. In contrast the product documentation about Heavy Ammo at 5mcg of -none recommends up to 4 sprays i.e. 20 mcg of -none. I’m thinking and I’m sure it’s nothing new, that if you buffer the -none well enough, you can get away with it. Your experience (along with others on the forum) is some evidence of that.😉 ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-field-report-pp-androstenone/3863/9 "2007-06-02T18:59:00Z")
Thats true, but IMHO the only problem with wearing premixed and buffered -none is that the happy pheros go away and dissipate a lot before than -none, so after a few hours you only wear lots of -none, giving you an OD. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2007, 5:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-field-report-pp-androstenone/3863/10 "2007-06-03T05:43:50Z")
I put on 4 sprays of PP and a bit of added -none and got strong avoidance reactions in the mall during the daytime. It was quite obvious something was happening. An OD effect is context sensitive, and a bunch of ovulating women in a bar at night might have displayed a different reaction. ---
**Author:** ![Futurist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@Futurist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Futurist)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2007, 4:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-field-report-pp-androstenone/3863/11 "2007-06-03T16:03:21Z")
> [@nibbla](#): > > I wonder about the caution that I’ve read urged by other contributors in relation to androstenone. > > PP has 6.25mcg per spray and Futurist recommends up to 4 sprays on his website i.e. 25mcg of -none. > > Yet there are often warning posts on the forum about using more than 1 or 2 sprays of 2.5mcg Turn Up The Heat. In contrast the product documentation about Heavy Ammo at 5mcg of -none recommends up to 4 sprays i.e. 20 mcg of -none. > > I’m thinking and I’m sure it’s nothing new, that if you buffer the -none well enough, you can get away with it. Your experience (along with others on the forum) is some evidence of that.😉 I actually generally recommend 2.5 to 3 sprays. The site does have an indicator in which 3-4 sprays is recommended for nightlife. But I myself never really use four sprays in those situations. For some guys it works. **How to Use _[Pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) Proof!_** The Heat Bar > **[Social Success Pheromone - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/)** > > A314 cologne is a powerful blend of 17 pheromones that enhance your confidence and gives you amazing social experiences you will never forget > **[Social Success Pheromone - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/)** > > A314 cologne is a powerful blend of 17 pheromones that enhance your confidence and gives you amazing social experiences you will never forget > **[Social Success Pheromone - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/)** > > A314 cologne is a powerful blend of 17 pheromones that enhance your confidence and gives you amazing social experiences you will never forget **3-4 Sprays** on Neck, Ears, Jawline and Hair: For Attracting Attention/“Peacocking” in Nightclub/Bar/Party Environments > **[Social Success Pheromone - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/)** > > A314 cologne is a powerful blend of 17 pheromones that enhance your confidence and gives you amazing social experiences you will never forget **2 Sprays** for Social/Recreational Environments where the crowd isn’t as dense and there’s less sensory distractions (lack of lighting, music, smoke, colognes) > **[Social Success Pheromone - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/)** > > A314 cologne is a powerful blend of 17 pheromones that enhance your confidence and gives you amazing social experiences you will never forget **1 Spray** for Work and Daytime Environments: You want to attract attention but don’t want to be too scented (Pheromone Proof uses an almost universally accepted masculine citrus scent using only essential oils)