# Second introduction. **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [March 23, 2011, 6:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-introduction/49479 "2011-03-23T06:01:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 6:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-introduction/49479/1 "2011-03-23T06:01:19Z")
I had joined this board back in 2008 and was interested in pheromones that year. I bought a bottle of [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) from a Toronto Auto Trade Show at the exhibition back in 2009 for $ 10.00. This was back in February 2009. This bottle stayed in the basement and was never used. Right now, I’ve taken this bottle outside it’s shelf in the basement and this is going to be the first pheromone product that I will try. I go to a Christian word church – however, whether there, or in public, I find that my chemistry with women is painfully lacking and I find it very difficult to connect on any personal and non-business level with almost every women. I feel particularly miserable whenever I see a woman I’d like to connect with, who is cold and distant with me, open up to another guy and there is a nice warm interaction. It’s like a fantasy in my world as it never seems to happen with me to get smooth interactions. It’s gotten to the point that I’ve virtually lost interest in pursuing women on this. This is why, as of tommorow, I’ll be experimenting with this pheromone product and later will be considering buying IO (Instant Opener) combined with Instant Shine, as suggested in the “attraction” phase, if the current product I have does not work. I think if I get this type of hits or interactions that it will make my life allot happier than it is right now as it seems to be a sort of chronic frustration that I have that I can’t seem to break that ice. Well, nothing to lose at this point by trying some stuff out. I just held a bag of this "pheromone’ and the smell on the bag and hands handling it is making me feel wierd…I hope this stuff doesn’t have any self-effects because I’m heading to bed now. ---
**Author:** ![famous4nothing](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/famous4nothing/32/313_2.png) [@famous4nothing](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/famous4nothing)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 6:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-introduction/49479/2 "2011-03-23T06:18:44Z")
Welcome to PheroTalk! Now, though I’ve no personal experience with them, from what I hear many “commercial” phero products are marketed as magic that will get you laid in five seconds. This, of course, is wrong. [Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) aren’t a one-size fits all kind of thing, and you will have to test and experiment. Pheros won’t change you, they will amplify the good things about you. For me, getting involved here triggered a massive and rapid self-improvement phase that is still ongoing! You can find some really detailed info on that in the tutorials posted by Steve and other pheromone gurus 🙂 I think IO and IS are definitely a good start, and I’d also encourage looking into AMMO. For me, personally, IG has been my best friend, but again, each and every individual has what is called a “sweet spot”. What works for me may be no good for you at all. Anyway, again, welcome. If you put time and effort into this, do your homework (again, I’d hit those tutorials and other members’ journals as soon as you can), and listen to the awesome advice you’ll assuredly receive, pheros can become a handy little advantage 😉 Don’t forget, you’ll be getting a 25$ GC soon. So, what have you got to loose? ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-introduction/49479/3 "2011-03-23T16:25:30Z")
Welcome back Skywalker 🙂. Since you already received a GC for your first introduction we cannot issue you another:[Hi everyone.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/13432) We are certainly glad you came back though 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 3:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-introduction/49479/4 "2011-03-24T03:34:00Z")
After listening to feedback from people, it looks like I desperately need to get my hands on instant opener. I’m reading through the ‘self-effects’ of this thing on people who are shy or have social anxiety and it is really encouraging. I analyze everything and don’t talk much. I know people say it enhances the best sides of ourselves that are already there and I’m treating this like a magic bullet or miracle cure for something. The good thing about [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) is you can’t OD and can add more and more. My issues are I can’t open up and people can’t open up to me. I don’t laugh, smile, or engage in talk with people enough and it’s a mental strain to try and get anything out of my mouth especially if it’s a hot girl. If a bottle of instant opener and instant shine can fix this – then I’m good. I know some people take alcohol in order to get them into a mood…and I can’t take that..but pheromones, well, sounds like something fun. Once I try out this free batch – I’ll give this IO a shot along with IS. ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 4:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-introduction/49479/5 "2011-03-24T04:19:27Z")
> [@famous4nothing](#): > > Welcome to PheroTalk! > Now, though I’ve no personal experience with them, from what I hear many “commercial” phero products are marketed as magic that will get you laid in five seconds. > This, of course, is wrong. > Pheromones aren’t a one-size fits all kind of thing, and you will have to test and experiment. Pheros won’t change you, they will amplify the good things about you. For me, getting involved here triggered a massive and rapid self-improvement phase that is still ongoing! You can find some really detailed info on that in the tutorials posted by Steve and other pheromone gurus 🙂 > I think IO and IS are definitely a good start, and I’d also encourage looking into AMMO. > For me, personally, IG has been my best friend, but again, each and every individual has what is called a “sweet spot”. What works for me may be no good for you at all. > Anyway, again, welcome. If you put time and effort into this, do your homework (again, I’d hit those tutorials and other members’ journals as soon as you can), and listen to the awesome advice you’ll assuredly receive, pheros can become a handy little advantage 😉 > Don’t forget, you’ll be getting a 25$ GC soon. So, what have you got to loose? Thank-you for this information. ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 11:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-introduction/49479/6 "2011-03-24T23:14:49Z")
First pheromone experiment: Put one drop of this pheromone product on my wrist and went out to the gym and then to a grocer to do some shopping. Results: Absolutely nothing. In the GYM: Went up to women and went next to them on the exercise machine they were on. NO hit or anything out of the ordinary. Understand, from other posts that 90% of women probably will not initiate even with pheromones on. Went up to a three different women in the gym and exercised beside them. There were other women working out in proximity to where I was and didn’t notice anything out of the ordinary. I’m not sure exactly what to expect with these “hits”, but for sure, I saw nothing. In the store: Same thing. Walked around both by myself or with my mom. The female cashier was rather distant with me this time around. Other women in the environs didn’t show any level of attention different then what I’m used to getting without the product. I have to check the forum on here concerning how much none would be an over-dose. Since I’m unsure of the composition. I can say that it does “smell”, and one drop of this particular “smell” is enough for me. It may just be garbage (i.e. pig urine) for all I know. The bottle said it’s for both men and women to attract the opposite sex. When I look at adrionics I can see that there are marketing products for straight guys, gay guys and women…even the social pheromones are marketed for men, or for a specific gender. So, at that glance I think I’d have more confidence in trying out something from adroinics and throwing away this bottle here. If I put too much on, I go out with my folks all the time, and don’t want these drops to linger too much on me or to be so strong that my mom suspects I’m up to something. Will think of whether to continue with this experiment with a higher dosage, or just throw away the bottle and try some of the tried and tested products that people talk about on here. With a money back guarantee I have nothing to lose, and maybe I may be the poster child for [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/). My gut feeling is I’m wasting time with this product and to order Instant Opener and Instant Shine ASAP and I should see a dramatic change if these products live up to the testimonials. Since there is no overdose with Instant Opener (and hopefully no smell) – I can get a to go bottle and spray it on before any occasion I may need it. ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 12:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-introduction/49479/7 "2011-03-25T00:58:13Z")
I have taken a look at this bottle’s ingrediants and basically – it is not really a [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) but it’s an essential oils product or “natural pheromones”. The bottle claims to contain a mixture of Patchouli and Cinnamon essential oil. Basically, I added a drop of these essential oils on my skin. I’ve already played around with ‘natural pheromones’ before – they come in different angles – you’ve got eating lots of celery, essential oils (I’ve tried replacing deodarant with sandlewood oil), etc… It’s all good, however, I don’t think I have much patience trying out “natural pheromone” experiments again as I already tried this route back in 2008 when I took Maca root powder and dead-sea salt walter baths. Then taking showers without soap or shampoes and just putting sandlewood oils in place of deodarant. I started itching myself after a while of this. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-introduction/49479/8 "2011-03-25T17:16:04Z")
Give IS and IO a try and you should see some results with it for sure! And your right about not having an OD effect if you put a bunch of spray on. These use a [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) scent as a carrier with about 6% cologne strength so it should be a bit muted after it drys down on your skin. ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 4:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-introduction/49479/9 "2011-03-26T04:47:52Z")
I’ve got an email with a certificate ID for a $ 25.00 certificate. I tried using this and I got an order processing error message. I copied and pasted the ID with my mouse so I know it’s accurate. I’ve also checked my past logs here at pherotalk and didn’t see any certificate sent out with my original message back in 2008. Either case, this is the first time I’m really using this website to buy a product – so I should be able to use either certificate. I am in the process of buying the TO GO sprays for Instant Opener, and double strength [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) (probably need a high dosage with my type of disposition.) As this is a very important experiment with me, I’m going to continue with this purchase anyway and will hope that this will be applied to future pheromone purchases. The cost of this is just about $ 35.00 including shipping and handling (base cost is $ 20.00 – most of the cost is shipping). I’m using this to test the waters. I know there is a 200% money back guarantee - but I sort of prefer not spending that much money in the first place rather than taking risks and applying for money back guarantees if it doesn’t work. $ 35.00 is not that big of a deal as a risk to try out this product…sounds like fun anyway. Well, here goes. ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-introduction/49479/10 "2011-03-26T05:25:27Z")
Okay I’ve just ordered it. Double strength on 2 TO GO’s. Should be enough for a social experiment. I’m good! Feel great to take the plunge after 2 years. I just never know what I may have been missing out on all this time – will find this out in the not too distant future. I have a good feeling about this right now…I’m sure it’s going to be ‘all right’.