# Second order for work and play: TAA or IS x2, with Ammo or IG, with IH, IO or TAC? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 17, 2008, 8:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-order-for-work-and-play-taa-or-is-x2-with-ammo-or-ig-with-ih-io-or-tac/12745 "2008-05-17T20:47:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![metoo22009](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@metoo22009](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metoo22009)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 8:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-order-for-work-and-play-taa-or-is-x2-with-ammo-or-ig-with-ih-io-or-tac/12745/1 "2008-05-17T20:47:30Z")
Well, impressed second roder. TAA or IS X 2? with AMMo or IG ( I am a very outgoing alpha male and young) with IH or IO or TAC Let me here your thoughts i am trying to avoid conflicting the blends Mostly for work and play, A134 is not something I am interested in for now, tried a sample of mx-105 and nto really impressed with teh work effects ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 8:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-order-for-work-and-play-taa-or-is-x2-with-ammo-or-ig-with-ih-io-or-tac/12745/2 "2008-05-17T20:51:46Z")
I’d get TAA oil (lasts longer, about the same results as Ishine, better price/performance ratio) + [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) (unscented/reduced scent would be prefered. ammo & IG are about the same, except IG doesn’t give off sexy, just MAN) + IO (can’t think of anything smart/witty to say here. . .) ---
**Author:** ![metoo22009](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@metoo22009](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metoo22009)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 9:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-order-for-work-and-play-taa-or-is-x2-with-ammo-or-ig-with-ih-io-or-tac/12745/3 "2008-05-17T21:26:19Z")
Thanks, why the unscented ammo? Would IG be better to avoid oding being that I am so young? What are your thoughts on openness v IH i am very outgoing and pretty much the life of the party alre ady ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 11:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-order-for-work-and-play-taa-or-is-x2-with-ammo-or-ig-with-ih-io-or-tac/12745/4 "2008-05-17T23:06:35Z")
> [@metoo22009](#): > > Thanks, why the unscented ammo? Would Instant Gentleman be better to avoid oding being that I am so young? What are your thoughts on openness v Instant Honesty i am very outgoing and pretty much the life of the party alre > ady Well, you don’t have to get it unscented, but request it to be made with like 1/2 or 1/4 fragrance strength or you’ll become the cologne guy. And, personally, I do not believe in OD’s (unless you put on like 19023471923847190234 sprays of Turn Up The Heat). Now you may be thinking ('Why not get ammo? It give sexy!"). That’s what was going on in my head when I first found pherotalk and I was looking at it with a shit-chunking ape-faced grin. While it is true, don’t discount the benefits of [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) (better for long-term relationships & attracts more mature/higher quality women & friends). Instant Honesty and Instant Openness both have their ups and downs. Instant Openness is good for openings. Instant Honesty is good for what goes on after the opening. ---
**Author:** ![metoo22009](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@metoo22009](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metoo22009)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 2:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-order-for-work-and-play-taa-or-is-x2-with-ammo-or-ig-with-ih-io-or-tac/12745/5 "2008-05-18T02:36:07Z")
Bump for other responses So TAA, and ammo? or IG? ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 2:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-order-for-work-and-play-taa-or-is-x2-with-ammo-or-ig-with-ih-io-or-tac/12745/6 "2008-05-18T02:38:54Z")
I agree with Eldros about Ammo unscented or better yet get it with Neroli, that is how I got mine I never used [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), only A314 so cannot comment on it, and just ordered TAA oil myself but have always love Instant Shine, one of my favorite products and will still use it ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 2:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-order-for-work-and-play-taa-or-is-x2-with-ammo-or-ig-with-ih-io-or-tac/12745/7 "2008-05-18T02:54:09Z")
I greatly prefer TAA spray over both Shine and oil based TAA: the effects are much faster acting and more intense. The oil based variant is really mellow and laidback, albeit a little longer lasting. I like TAA spray for happy hour and other social activities and the more subtle TAA oil for work (coupled with A314). The scent of Ammo is great and I’ve only had positive comments from women concerning the scent. If you do get unscented or lightly scented Ammo, realize the [pheromones](https://a314.com/) in it stink like pee and sweaty feet. You’ll definitely want to cover it with your own cologne, making for a 2-step process. ---
**Author:** ![metoo22009](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@metoo22009](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metoo22009)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 3:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-order-for-work-and-play-taa-or-is-x2-with-ammo-or-ig-with-ih-io-or-tac/12745/8 "2008-05-18T03:19:49Z")
okay so taa over shine, if i double up on the oil is it just as good as the spray\>? ammo over IG ? bump for more thoughts ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 3:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-order-for-work-and-play-taa-or-is-x2-with-ammo-or-ig-with-ih-io-or-tac/12745/9 "2008-05-18T03:23:26Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > I greatly prefer TAA spray over both Shine and oil based TAA: the effects are much faster acting and more intense. Can you elaborate on the difference in intensity between TAA and IS that you have seen, Gegogi? Or point me in the direction of a post you may have made about it before? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 3:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-order-for-work-and-play-taa-or-is-x2-with-ammo-or-ig-with-ih-io-or-tac/12745/10 "2008-05-18T03:38:16Z")
Hi Ariadne. I did a short report on [Molecule A](https://a314.com/product/molecule-a/) (TAA) a few months back: > [@Molecule A (TAA) with Ammo while teaching: women all over me, men puzzled](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/molecule-a/9347): > > Zapped myself with a couple Ammo 1X and 4 squirts from a Molecule A Togo (25 mcg x 4) and taught two classes this morning. Hot damn, the female members were all over me: standing as close as possible, bubbling over with near ecstasy, smiling, touching me, etc. It was actually getting a little scary–not normal behavior. And the guys, although upbeat, looked puzzled, like “what the hell.” I was wearing a new Lucky shirt and jeans (Italian boots too)–really casual–but the compliments on my appearan… But as I stated above, TAA in an alcohol carrier is basically faster acting and vastly more intense than both TAA oil and Shine. Reactions to Shine and TAA oil are extremely subtle in comparison. Not sure why. It just is! However, TAA is at its best served up with other complimentary mones. I like it with a heavy dose of alpha androstenol. Really gets the party kickin’ ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 3:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-order-for-work-and-play-taa-or-is-x2-with-ammo-or-ig-with-ih-io-or-tac/12745/11 "2008-05-18T03:44:24Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Hi Ariadne. I did a short report on Molecule A (TAA) a few months back: > > [Molecule A (TAA) with Ammo while teaching: women all over me, men puzzled](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/molecule-a/9347) > > But as I stated above, TAA in an alcohol carrier is basically faster acting and more intense than both TAA oil and Shine. Reactions to Shine and TAA oil are extremely subtle in comparison. Not sure why. It just is! Thanks a lot! I have some TAA in a 12.5mcg ToGo and have only played with it intermittently at about 25mcg. I think I shall have to up the dose, based on your report!