# Second round look at Instant Line products **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 8, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-round-look-at-instant-line-products/43164 "2010-11-08T15:58:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-round-look-at-instant-line-products/43164/1 "2010-11-08T15:58:00Z")
Since I’ve gone into heavy testing of putative and the MX test packs, I haven’t really used that much of the Instant Line products all that much. I’ve used A314 as a base for a lot of the times I’ve been testing but that even took breaks in between to test out each individual molecule seperately. The one product that I’ve noticed that had the best effects in terms of social dynamics was Instant Shine. I took for granted the upbeat feel good vibe that Instant Shine gave me and the others that were affected by it. Even in day to day business interactions I can notice the difference in the vibe that I was getting from clients. Now obviously not one product is the end all be all, and they all have their uses, but the fact that Instant Shine has multi faceted uses is just amazing. Most social and professional interactions are just so much better when people feel good and you feel good. The better your mood, the more your body will show it. Most of the new users here should probably take the time to really appreciate the number of amazing uses that Instant Shine can provide. Like all the other products, congruency is the key, and with Instant Shine, I believe that this is the easier out of all the products, cause quite frankly, who doesn’t like to be upbeat and happy. I also know that there are so many mixes out there that are floating with this P and that MX combined here, mixed there. Which is all great and good, I think there are quite a few people here looking for that one product that just works great every time. Coincidentally, we already use a product like that. I think that since so many people don’t expect anything out of AMMO, they usually just spray and forget, but remember that AMMO has the best outright hits that I’ve seen. Granted that its not the hardest hitting and the most blatant effects, but if you notice, a majority of the mixes will be high mcg content, and with AMMO just at 7.5 mcgs per spray, you really get the best result “pound for pound” and that since most of us don’t expect anything much out of it, it really does blow my mind sometimes how effective two sprays works. [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) has been great, I agree with the verbal descriptions that people get, is that warmth and comfort that it affords to the user. It’s not beta but its not quite alpha. I say it’s not quite alpha because unlike A314 which there can be some incongruency but the user can still pull it off and over time, congruency issues will essentially correct themselves. I don’t believe that Instant Gentleman has those issues, again back to the “warmth” of the vibe that it gives, it almost has that sort of mystery about the vibe that I give that it is a great begining product for a user. Now some who have more motivation and taking strides to improve themselfs and become more alpha, then A314 I strongly believe will be the better option. Revisit these and trust in these products, because quite frankly, they do work very very well, and that they’re often overshadowed by the newest and coolest mixes out there. ---
**Author:** ![p8ntman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7993a0/32.png) [@p8ntman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/p8ntman)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-round-look-at-instant-line-products/43164/2 "2010-11-08T16:08:59Z")
Im look forward to hearing how IG works and maybe IJ but i have one question how well did [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) work. I tried to find it in your previous thread (i think it was you) but it was one of those TL;DR moments ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-round-look-at-instant-line-products/43164/3 "2010-11-08T16:12:53Z")
> [@p8ntman](#): > > Im look forward to hearing how IG works and maybe IJ but i have one question how well did P83 work. I tried to find it in your previous thread (i think it was you) but it was one of those TL;DR moments I don’t recall mixing IJ and IG, I have to check my journal for it. [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) in conjunction with? I haven’t really made anything that was too long of a post, most of it are quick few paragraph reports, but what did you need to know, maybe I can help shed some light into it. ---
**Author:** ![p8ntman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7993a0/32.png) [@p8ntman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/p8ntman)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 4:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-round-look-at-instant-line-products/43164/4 "2010-11-08T16:15:37Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > I don’t recall mixing IJ and IG, I have to check my journal for it. > > P83 in conjunction with? > > I haven’t really made anything that was too long of a post, most of it are quick few paragraph reports, but what did you need to know, maybe I can help shed some light into it. Oh… my bad I was thinking this was going to be more of a journal and [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) I dont have it yet i was looking for your thoughts on it. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-round-look-at-instant-line-products/43164/5 "2010-11-08T16:24:19Z")
> [@p8ntman](#): > > Oh… my bad I was thinking this was going to be more of a journal and P83 I dont have it yet i was looking for your thoughts on it. From my experiences, [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) influences women to do things they normally wouldn’t do that are within the scope of what they internalize as acceptable behavior. Meaning, if she likes you, or is just a wild girl in a shy girl’s body, then P83 helps facilitate that breaking of the shell. However I’ve found it is best coupled mixed with social comfort products, and -none would work well, I’ve tested it, but only in smaller amounds. I can only do a small amount of none steered in that direction, and it works great for me. I’ve used it as low as 10mcgs with some effect but seems like 20-30 is ideal for me. ---
**Author:** ![GorMas2020](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gormas2020/32/197_2.png) [@GorMas2020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorMas2020)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 5:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-round-look-at-instant-line-products/43164/6 "2010-11-08T17:24:08Z")
A314 and IS 4x all day everyday 🙂 A314, [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) 2x, and IS 4x all night everynight 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![samuraitea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/samuraitea/32/1998_2.png) [@samuraitea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/samuraitea)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 5:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-round-look-at-instant-line-products/43164/7 "2010-11-08T17:26:50Z")
Yeah P83 25mcg is my sweet spot, you get some pretty interesting results that you’ll be kinda shocked with. I am waiting for tomorrow for my typical sushi date with my crazies! Ammo, P83(25mcg), P74(25mcg)! I want to see what kind of a mess I can get in! I got 2nd base at Whole Foods 2 weeks ago, my friend grabbed my hand and said “Hey Tea Feel this, I got hard nipples!”… But P51 is right, Instant Products are never failing. They are always there when you need them and are very consistent! Without them, I would be in a Very different place in my life, and I am very thankful for the Improvement that they have enabled in me as a person, not to mention a good foundations for other P’s and MX’s to come for me too 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![p8ntman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7993a0/32.png) [@p8ntman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/p8ntman)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-round-look-at-instant-line-products/43164/8 "2010-11-08T17:27:45Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > From my experiences, P83 influences women to do things they normally wouldn’t do that are within the scope of what they internalize as acceptable behavior. Meaning, if she likes you, or is just a wild girl in a shy girl’s body, then P83 helps facilitate that breaking of the shell. However I’ve found it is best coupled mixed with social comfort products, and -none would work well, I’ve tested it, but only in smaller amounds. I can only do a small amount of none steered in that direction, and it works great for me. > > I’ve used it as low as 10mcgs with some effect but seems like 20-30 is ideal for me. Thanks I was going to add P83 to my daily dose of 1x Ammo 2-3x IS 1.5x IO I like the fact that you state P83 has the effects of persuasion. I have a friend that has issues opening up at times its like she’s happy go lucky one moment then the next something happens and she throws up these “walls” if you get what i mean. This only happens when the idea of dating or hanging out away from school comes into the conversation. Could be her history (It was a bad one) saying dont trust him, yet she is usually quite friendly and flirty. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/second-round-look-at-instant-line-products/43164/9 "2010-11-08T17:53:42Z")
> [@p8ntman](#): > > Thanks I was going to add P83 to my daily dose of > 1x Ammo > 2-3x IS > 1.5x IO > > I like the fact that you state P83 has the effects of persuasion. I have a friend that has issues opening up at times its like she’s happy go lucky one moment then the next something happens and she throws up these “walls” if you get what i mean. This only happens when the idea of dating or hanging out away from school comes into the conversation. Could be her history (It was a bad one) saying dont trust him, yet she is usually quite friendly and flirty. I definitely think that it could break down those walls, but when it comes to those situations like on a date, P96 is my preference coupled with some P83. I’m lucky enough to have two different dosages for P83 and I can use it to steer it in the right direction. The best advice, from personal experiences I’ve had, is to really understand how each product/molecule works for you and how your personality matches with those signatures. For example, initial attraction, you use something harder hitting like an AMMO + IS + Androstenol (IO IH CTTM) with some TUTH under the shirt. Or like an IJ with some socials. When you’re in a date setting, smaller groups, 1 on 1, you can use things like A314/IG + AMMO + IH. Now if you have those mastered. You can start eliminating and adding on the putatives when it comes to your social settings, knowing how these putatives work. If she’s more outgoing and more alpha like I would go with some P86, toss in some P75 and Beta nol/IH. I love P96 in a lot of my small group/1 on 1 interactions, but its too rare to use on a daily basis. You also have the [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) and P79 putative which a lot of the guys here like. I personally can only tell you that I’ve had minimal usages with these as standalones.