# Seducing A Boy, HELP **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 2, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seducing-a-boy-help/20727 "2008-10-02T20:53:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![emlp1981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f04885/32.png) [@emlp1981](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/emlp1981)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seducing-a-boy-help/20727/1 "2008-10-02T20:53:14Z")
Hi ladies, What would be the best thing to use to seduce a boy? I’ve been reading some of the guys’ posts and they seem to be able to get very strong reactions from us girls. What is the female equivalent to get the guys really really hot? E xx ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 8:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seducing-a-boy-help/20727/2 "2008-10-02T20:58:37Z")
Copulins. ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 9:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seducing-a-boy-help/20727/3 "2008-10-02T21:27:11Z")
To seduce a boy or have a boy seduce you? I would be much more drawn to someone I feel comfort and connection with so Instant Shine, [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) for sure. I can’t really comment on the other womans prodcuts though as I haven’t been exposed (knowingly) to them. Other than pheromones try a technique that guys use on girls called push/pull. I know when a girl does that to me it drives me completly crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 9:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seducing-a-boy-help/20727/4 "2008-10-02T21:27:50Z")
Copulins and social products like Instant Shine, Instant Openness and Instant Honesty. Often the [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) are very attracting on their own and with the added kick of cops should be a winner. emlp, if you haven’t read the stickies at the top of the womens forum, that would be a good place to start looking for answers to many of your questions. Good luck with your TG and let us know how it goes. 🙂 Bella ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 9:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seducing-a-boy-help/20727/5 "2008-10-02T21:28:41Z")
LOL…seems Wildflower and I were posting at the same time! 😃 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Siren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/siren/32/2186_2.png) [@Siren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Siren)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seducing-a-boy-help/20727/6 "2008-10-02T23:12:05Z")
> [@WildFlower](#): > > Other than pheromones try a technique that guys use on girls called push/pull. I know when a girl does that to me it drives me completly crazy. What is push/pull? ---
**Author:** ![Siren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/siren/32/2186_2.png) [@Siren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Siren)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 11:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seducing-a-boy-help/20727/7 "2008-10-02T23:22:30Z")
Well I just read about push/pull technique. I never knew that is what it was called. ---
**Author:** ![Gothic\_doll](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gothic_doll/32/2215_2.png) [@Gothic\_doll](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gothic_doll)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 12:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seducing-a-boy-help/20727/8 "2008-10-03T00:47:13Z")
IS/A get a sexy vibe and can definitly increase your capacity to seduce, but you have to use your ability still 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 12:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seducing-a-boy-help/20727/9 "2008-10-03T00:53:20Z")
> [@wildflower](#): > > _ **Other than pheromones try a technique that guys use on girls called push/pull. I know when a girl does that to me it dirves me completely crazy.** _ I may be the odd man out here but this push/pull technique only works so far for/with me. It can be lots of fun. I’m all for playful and at the appropriate time, sexual banter, to a point. But if a man pulls away from me too often. He can just keep going. I saw a post here earlier, that was deleted, asking what push/pull was. So, for thoses of you who may not be familiar - [A Way to Use the Push-Pull Technique to Create Attraction](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNAxU-aKYqY&feature=related) As far as a man “negging” _me personally_, especially if I’ve declared my feelings to him in any way…well, depends on what those comments are, how they’re delievered and how often they’re made. There is a limit. And _telling me I’m boring?_ (i.e.the vid) LOL! Get real. I’m outta there in a heartbeat and I ain’t lookin’ back. Adios, baby. A challenge is one thing, but insulting me is a deal breaker. Talk about crazy…lol. And remember [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) are only a tool. You gotta work _yourself_. 😉 🙂 Take a peek at the “Congruence? What’s That?” thread in the Theory section. Enlightening stuff. Bella. ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 7:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seducing-a-boy-help/20727/10 "2008-10-03T07:37:51Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > I may be the odd man out here but this push/pull technique only works so far for/with me. It can be lots of fun. I’m all for playful and at the appropriate time, sexual banter, to a point. But if a man pulls away from me too often. He can just keep going. > > I saw a post here earlier, that was deleted, asking what push/pull was. So, for thoses of you who may not be familiar - > > [A Way to Use the Push-Pull Technique to Create Attraction](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNAxU-aKYqY&feature=related) > > As far as a man “negging” _me personally_, especially if I’ve declared my feelings to him in any way…well, depends on what those comments are, how they’re delievered and how often they’re made. There is a limit. And _telling me I’m boring?_ (i.e.the vid) LOL! Get real. I’m outta there in a heartbeat and I ain’t lookin’ back. Adios, baby. > > A challenge is one thing, but insulting me is a deal breaker. Talk about crazy…lol. > > And remember pheromones are only a tool. You gotta work _yourself_. 😉 🙂 > > Take a peek at the “Congruence? What’s That?” thread in the Theory section. Enlightening stuff. > > Bella. Yeah, it is, of course, dependent on a somewhat pre-existing base of social skills and a sense of timing, etc. Just a sense of what is good in the moment, and as you say Bella, a sense of when to stop so as not to go overboard, and actually start acting more like a serious romantic contender than some cocky comedian! If a guy has absolutely no sense of social/conversational appropriateness in the first place, nothing to build on, and cannot “read” a situation too well, then going out delivering “negs” to a “target” is going to be a disaster for him. He will have gone from “nerd” to “rude nerd” while imagining he is becoming some sort of suave character, based on some theory he saw in a video or read in a book. ---
**Author:** ![Takhisis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Takhisis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Takhisis)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 7:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seducing-a-boy-help/20727/11 "2008-10-03T07:55:40Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > I may be the odd man out here but this push/pull technique only works so far for/with me. It can be lots of fun. I’m all for playful and at the appropriate time, sexual banter, to a point. But if a man pulls away from me too often. He can just keep going. 100% agree. Push/pull is fun up to a point but once feelings have been laid out, it has to stop (or evolve into banter that goes somewhere). > [@Bella](#): > > A challenge is one thing, but insulting me is a deal breaker. Talk about crazy…lol. This is probably where I’m a “seduction” noob but I don’t see how putting down your target gets you anywhere. Sure, if you known them a long time, a little playful ribbing can be fun but “You’re boring”? Well, I’ll just go bore someone else, jerk. 😮 But that’s just me. Back on the topic of boy seduction :o, the first question would be do you want to seduce him or be seduced by him (as previously said by someone else). After that, how well do you know him? Instant Sexiness (A or B) would add to your attraction “aura”. If you want total lust, you could go for Lust after Me (WARNING: you’ll need a strong perfume to cover this baby up). The [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) (Instant Honesty, Instant Shine, etc) are definite musts for creating a good relationship. As Bella said, congruence is very important, as pheromones aren’t magic, they’re just an edge! ---
**Author:** ![emlp1981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f04885/32.png) [@emlp1981](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/emlp1981)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 6:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seducing-a-boy-help/20727/12 "2008-10-03T18:46:13Z")
Thanks for all your advice guys, I haven’t bought Lust for me yet - going to try my others first, they arrived today but I left them at work! And I’ve got a big night out tomorrow too - I was goign to try them then, but now I can’t 😠!! Well my TG is basically resisting, or really just not getting the hint! So I just want something to spark him up a little - make him sit up and take some notice! However, the only place I’ll really get to try it out on him is work, so I don’t want anything that will make either of going a little crazy!! We used to have a thing, it didn’t last very long as he didn’t want a relationship, and then obviously it got slightly awkward, but now he’s being way more chatty and flirty than normal, although still not acting on anything. I’ll be sure to let you all know how Monday pans out with the trial of ISa!! E xx ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 10:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seducing-a-boy-help/20727/13 "2008-10-03T22:38:34Z")
I don’t think being rude really helps attracting men. Just have a backbone and don’t fawn over a guy and let him be the man a bit. When you are being nice, simply smile a lot, show how impressed you are if he brags or does something impressive, listen to his stories, laugh about his jokes, that sort of thing. Don’t bake him cookies or offer sex or do other inappropriate things that make you look desperate. You can be nice without overinvesting in a guy. ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2008, 12:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seducing-a-boy-help/20727/14 "2008-10-04T00:09:33Z")
As for the “push/pull” thing, I personally am not fond of it. It sort of makes me feel awkward and I end up wanting to avoid that person so they don’t disturb me anymore. But then, that’s just me. Here’s my 2 cents, if you really like him meaning, you want to have a relationship with him, don’t use cops first! lol, and if he likes you, green lights go with the cops to add a some tangy goodness to your lovelife. However, if he only likes you as a “buddy”, imho, I don’t think being pushy would help, there is a higher chance that you’re just setting up yourself to get hurt. Sorry, I don’t want to discourage you or anything, I just wanna help ya out 🙂 I bet you’re a sweet girl breaking your back to get TG like you,but I just wanna make sure you don’t get a wrong idea about the pheros, they only enhance you, if someone doesn’t like you they don’t. If someone loves you, with pheros — KaBoom, they’ll be cheery around you! lol Plus, you don’t want a man who’s just attracted just to your pheros! You want a man who’s attracted to you! 😃 Once you find that man, watch those pheros make his head spin 😉 lol As for the seduction thing, cops will make men horny as hell. Yep, you’ll seduce him for sure, but it’ll just end up in means of sex that’s it. Is/a, Is/b, mx235, mx135 and [Lust After Me](https://phera.com/product/lust-after-me/) (get a good cover scent though 😉 ) from Androtics have cops. If you really want to wear pheros around him, why don’t you try the social pheros like instant openness: will make him chattier than usual instant shine: will make him happy and jolly around you instant honesty: he might spill his deepest secrets, who knows, he might have a crush on you afterall! lol Goodluck with your cutie 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Siren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/siren/32/2186_2.png) [@Siren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Siren)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 2:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seducing-a-boy-help/20727/15 "2008-10-05T02:59:17Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > I may be the odd man out here but this push/pull technique only works so far for/with me. > > I saw a post here earlier, that was deleted, asking what push/pull was. Hi Bella: That was me that had posted the question. I actually went online and saw what push/pull was and deleted my post. Men have tried this on me in the past but I find it to be quite boring and I just get turned off. In fact once approached I try to avoid these men at all cost. I loathe head games. If a man wants my attention he can easily get it if he is nicely dressed, has some personality and provides stimulating, interesting conversation. I find that men that do this type of thing, do so due to immaturity or inexperience. I guess push/pull makes me want to push him and pull myself as far away from this individual as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 7:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seducing-a-boy-help/20727/16 "2008-10-06T07:12:24Z")
Try Instant Sexiness A and some [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). Seducing a guy is pretty simple. Tell him what you like and how you feel, and let him figure out how he’s going to make you happy. Don’t tell him what to do. If you feel insecure, be honest and don’t act weird or throw hints around. Sit back, relax, and enjoy. …And do the best you possibly can to look great. And wear pheromones. ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 9:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seducing-a-boy-help/20727/17 "2008-10-06T21:37:29Z")
Oh my goodness. This guy have been trying this on me. It’s so clear now.😮 Personally I like my guys really easy. When I have to put in too much work it gets me annoyed. > [@Bella](#): > > I may be the odd man out here but this push/pull technique only works so far for/with me. It can be lots of fun. I’m all for playful and at the appropriate time, sexual banter, to a point. But if a man pulls away from me too often. He can just keep going. > > I saw a post here earlier, that was deleted, asking what push/pull was. So, for thoses of you who may not be familiar - > > [A Way to Use the Push-Pull Technique to Create Attraction](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNAxU-aKYqY&feature=related) > > As far as a man “negging” _me personally_, especially if I’ve declared my feelings to him in any way…well, depends on what those comments are, how they’re delievered and how often they’re made. There is a limit. And _telling me I’m boring?_ (i.e.the vid) LOL! Get real. I’m outta there in a heartbeat and I ain’t lookin’ back. Adios, baby. > > A challenge is one thing, but insulting me is a deal breaker. Talk about crazy…lol. > > And remember pheromones are only a tool. You gotta work _yourself_. 😉 🙂 > > Take a peek at the “Congruence? What’s That?” thread in the Theory section. Enlightening stuff. > > Bella. ---
**Author:** ![EmeraldNight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/emeraldnight/32/549_2.png) [@EmeraldNight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/EmeraldNight)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 2:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seducing-a-boy-help/20727/18 "2008-10-07T02:22:17Z")
I think using social pheros like [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) to break the ice and get him feeling comfortable around you, then hitting him with more sexual pheros is a great idea for two reasons. The first is that initially he might be attracted to you with a sexual phero, but unless you know him well already he could be intimidated by it and not know how to approach you. The second is that sexual pheros seem hit or miss and it takes a little time to get to know what kind of pheromones turn someone on. Hmm, the push/pull game… I hate the term “push/pull” but coquettry can be a valuable tool and has its place and time, though you must have that person’s interest first. If you don’t it will seem like you have problems and the person will lose interest. The whole point of being a coquette is to make the other person chase and it is natural for a man to want to chase that which is desirable. But, you have to make yourself desirable first… either by charming him, being open to him and flirting or by being desired by other men. Meanness or cruelty also has its place in seduction, but its tricky and a lot of women I know feel uncomfortable with it. If it doesn’t come naturally, just be friendly. People like others who make them feel good about themselves and its a lot easier to charm multitudes of people this way. The ultimate point of both negative comments and pulling away is to get the person wondering what they did wrong. It makes them want to please you again, and raises your value, giving you more power and control. If one is going to use these things you should never pull away at a low point in the interaction (they will be glad to be rid of you for awhile) and always withdrawal on a high. Leave them wanting more. ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 9:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seducing-a-boy-help/20727/19 "2008-10-07T09:05:34Z")
> [@EmeraldNight](#): > > The ultimate point of both negative comments and pulling away is to get the person wondering what they did wrong. It makes them want to please you again, and raises your value, giving you more power and control. If one is going to use these things you should never pull away at a low point in the interaction (they will be glad to be rid of you for awhile) and always withdrawal on a high. Leave them wanting more. I like that last tip. It is kind of like it is with writing, when you start with a positive, then a negative and then a big positive, people still associate a positive feeling with you. Pulling away when a guy you are dating did something you don’t like is pretty normal. The alternative is to stick around biting your tongue and being unhappy, which builds resentment. So it is ultimately best for both of you if you just say you don’t like this and spend time on other things that make you feel better. A lot of people who are too nice and hold in their anger also build up resentment and take that out on people who don’t deserve it. Spending time with someone out of duty makes for a pretty bad time. They often do things for others with the expectation that they will be taken care of in return and fail to take care of their own needs. These same people can also become bitter and unhappy. When you seem snippy with a guy for no good reason, he will likely assume you are being too, too nice with other men and then taking it out on him. Or when you are harsh with all men now, maybe you were a doormat for some guys who used you in the past and are taking that out on the men you date today. Who wants to be the punch bag to vent the anger that other people caused? I think if you feel happy and look after yourself that makes you very attractive. It is also a lot more charming to sometimes show spontaneous anger when you are wronged, than to build up an underlying atmosphere of resentment. After a burst of anger, you can easily be charming again, which makes you seem feisty rather than bitter. ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 2:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seducing-a-boy-help/20727/20 "2008-10-07T14:51:27Z")
I agree with butterfly. Yeah sure there are men out there you can play games with and they will definitely take the bait but in the end it’s just a game. If you want to have a genuine relationship with someone take your time and let things progress , no one can hide who they really are forever. Show him straight of what you will and will not put up with. My guy friends will comment that they like a girl but she is too nice, which means she is gullable and if they can take advantage of you they will and in the end won’t respect you. On the other hand, life is hard without having someone in your life who is negative and makes you unhappy, even if you wanna be with that person eventually you will have to ask yourself a question and let go. Just being yourself with a positive , confident attitude is good enough. If it doesn’t work out it wasn’t meant to be. Move on knowing you didn’t compromise yourself in the process and go out there to find that one for you. > [@Butterfly](#): > > I like that last tip. It is kind of like it is with writing, when you start with a positive, then a negative and then a big positive, people still associate a positive feeling with you. > > Pulling away when a guy you are dating did something you don’t like is pretty normal. The alternative is to stick around biting your tongue and being unhappy, which builds resentment. So it is ultimately best for both of you if you just say you don’t like this and spend time on other things that make you feel better. > > A lot of people who are too nice and hold in their anger also build up resentment and take that out on people who don’t deserve it. Spending time with someone out of duty makes for a pretty bad time. They often do things for others with the expectation that they will be taken care of in return and fail to take care of their own needs. These same people can also become bitter and unhappy. > > When you seem snippy with a guy for no good reason, he will likely assume you are being too, too nice with other men and then taking it out on him. Or when you are harsh with all men now, maybe you were a doormat for some guys who used you in the past and are taking that out on the men you date today. Who wants to be the punch bag to vent the anger that other people caused? > > I think if you feel happy and look after yourself that makes you very attractive. It is also a lot more charming to sometimes show spontaneous anger when you are wronged, than to build up an underlying atmosphere of resentment. After a burst of anger, you can easily be charming again, which makes you seem feisty rather than bitter.