# Seduction and Pick-Up **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [October 4, 2009, 11:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seduction-and-pick-up/32996 "2009-10-04T23:00:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bratzdoll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed655f/32.png) [@bratzdoll](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bratzdoll)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2009, 11:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seduction-and-pick-up/32996/1 "2009-10-04T23:00:02Z")
I am “in training” on the art and science of seduction and pick-up, and came across PheroTalk via online search. Since smell is a subject not covered as extensively in online seduction materials as other aspects, just thought to stop by here. About me? Houston, Texas is home, frequently in San Diego, California. Developing income streams, including bonds, MLP, REIT, and real estate for a living. 6’5" tall, blonde hair, blue eyes, a little weight around the gut. Every woman I develop a relationship with sniffs me like crazy, even if I have not had a shower for a while and am not wearing fragrance, and says that my smell “drives them crazy, can not resist it”. And no, I do not wear [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) (not yet, anyway, at least none other than whatever my body produces naturally). But then, maybe some thing is missing to the smell with girls that do not stick around…a mystery to be explored… ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seduction-and-pick-up/32996/2 "2009-10-04T23:37:06Z")
Welcome to the exploration. It sounds like you will have fun finding out what these compounds do. You do have some good things going already in the smell department, but different compounds seem to affect people with different mating strategies. For examples to get you thinking, see > [@Tournament and pair-bonding strategies for pheromone use](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tournament-and-pair-bonding-strategies-for-pheromone-use/4009): > > Biologists have noted two types of species with distinct physical and behavioral characteristics with regard to mating. Those are called [tournament species](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tournament_species)and [pair bonding](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pair_bond)species. In tournament species males compete for the opportunity to mate with females. They may compete via fighting like the elk, or via displays like the peacock. In pair bonding species like the swan a male and a female form a lasting pair bond. (In a very few species it is the female that competes to mate with the mal… and [Evolutionary psychology: -Rone men and -None Men](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolutionary-psychology-rone-men-and-none-men/19) . ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seduction-and-pick-up/32996/3 "2009-10-05T00:02:24Z")
Hi there, Welcome to the forum. You may be producing lots of natural pheromones. Tell us more about your personality. Are you shy or outgoing? WHat kind of result do you expect from pheromones? WHo are your targets? Then we can give you some recommendations on pheromones. Cheers ---
**Author:** ![AlexanderG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alexanderg/32/891_2.png) [@AlexanderG](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AlexanderG)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 12:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seduction-and-pick-up/32996/4 "2009-10-05T00:42:58Z")
Welcome to the community Bratz. Do answer the questions James has asked, this will qualify you for the gift certificate. If you’re extra keen to get started with pheros, have a good read of [the mens guide](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mens-pheromone-guide-revised-6-15/12168)and let us know if you have any questions. ---
**Author:** ![bratzdoll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed655f/32.png) [@bratzdoll](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bratzdoll)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 1:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seduction-and-pick-up/32996/5 "2009-10-05T01:43:55Z")
Well, JamesBonded, Oh, I would say that the kind of pheromone that I would want would open up a woman who I have just met to allow me to escalate her physicall/sexually, if I choose to. I am shy, but I am also 6’5", so people are sometimes too intimidated to approach me. After reading your pheromone guide, I was tempted to think that I should avoid the alpha pheromone. But then I remembered the following: The California Pimp (a professional porn maker who seduces women to make porn films with him for no charge) says that I am “too nice, not aggressive enough, overly interested in the cuddly/Romantic side of women” to trigger the primal side (as opposed to the monogamous marriage-seeking side) in many women. He says I need to become more “dominant” to just get sex quickly from women. A 22 year old girl I hooked up with last year overwhelmed me with her hormones, her hormonal cloud, such that my mind went crazy and could not stand not hearing from her - such that she just blew me off and would not go to bed with me again. I felt deja vu like I was feeling things like I felt in college, and had not felt for 20 years, including the sexually out-of-control thing, and I did not like it. So maybe it is best that a girl like that did not stick around. Yet, my current 31 year old gf says that my hormones overwhelm her - and she does not know what she would do without seeing me. And, her comment about the California Pimp’s comment is that she thinks I mix both primal and cuddly/Romantic, and loves that about me. So, maybe this helps, or maybe it clouds the issue further as to what pheromones would be best. ---
**Author:** ![tezza23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tezza23/32/1375_2.png) [@tezza23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tezza23)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 7:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seduction-and-pick-up/32996/6 "2009-10-05T07:51:04Z")
Hmm. To get the aggressive guy try something with androstenone. Ammunition (some none, well buffered), Turn up the heat (lots of none, very sexual), or [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) (name says it all!). Or it may just be your behaviour. Check out the Authentic Man Program to help balance your heart with your balls. ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 9:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seduction-and-pick-up/32996/7 "2009-10-05T09:21:05Z")
> [@bratzdoll](#): > > Well, JamesBonded, > > Oh, I would say that the kind of pheromone that I would want would open up a woman who I have just met to allow me to escalate her physicall/sexually, if I choose to. I am shy, but I am also 6’5", so people are sometimes too intimidated to approach me. > > After reading your pheromone guide, I was tempted to think that I should avoid the alpha pheromone. But then I remembered the following: > > The California Pimp (a professional porn maker who seduces women to make porn films with him for no charge) says that I am “too nice, not aggressive enough, overly interested in the cuddly/Romantic side of women” to trigger the primal side (as opposed to the monogamous marriage-seeking side) in many women. He says I need to become more “dominant” to just get sex quickly from women. > > A 22 year old girl I hooked up with last year overwhelmed me with her hormones, her hormonal cloud, such that my mind went crazy and could not stand not hearing from her - such that she just blew me off and would not go to bed with me again. I felt deja vu like I was feeling things like I felt in college, and had not felt for 20 years, including the sexually out-of-control thing, and I did not like it. So maybe it is best that a girl like that did not stick around. Yet, my current 31 year old gf says that my hormones overwhelm her - and she does not know what she would do without seeing me. And, her comment about the California Pimp’s comment is that she thinks I mix both primal and cuddly/Romantic, and loves that about me. > > So, maybe this helps, or maybe it clouds the issue further as to what pheromones would be best. Try IO and ammo. IO will make the girls want to talk to you. It may lighten your intimidated nature. It gives you an edge to approach girls too. AMMO will make them attracted to you. It can make them sexually atracted too. Good luck ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 7:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seduction-and-pick-up/32996/8 "2009-10-05T19:59:02Z")
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**Author:** ![Kratos27j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e68b1a/32.png) [@Kratos27j](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kratos27j)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seduction-and-pick-up/32996/9 "2011-08-11T17:19:24Z")
> [@bratzdoll](#): > > I am “in training” on the art and science of seduction and pick-up, and came across PheroTalk via online search. Since smell is a subject not covered as extensively in online seduction materials as other aspects, just thought to stop by here. > > About me? > Houston, Texas is home, frequently in San Diego, California. Developing income streams, including bonds, MLP, REIT, and real estate for a living. 6’5" tall, blonde hair, blue eyes, a little weight around the gut. > > Every woman I develop a relationship with sniffs me like crazy, even if I have not had a shower for a while and am not wearing fragrance, and says that my smell “drives them crazy, can not resist it”. And no, I do not wear pheromones (not yet, anyway, at least none other than whatever my body produces naturally). > > But then, maybe some thing is missing to the smell with girls that do not stick around…a mystery to be explored… Hi, welcome to the community. I’m training also. Where are your getting information on being a pick up artist? Have you read any books yet. If not check out, Attraction Mastery, Attraction Code, and the System. I can email them to you if you like.