# Seeking fresh start

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seeking-fresh-start/53797>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [December 18, 2011, 4:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seeking-fresh-start/53797 "2011-12-18T16:28:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Dafaumi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Dafaumi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dafaumi)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2011, 4:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seeking-fresh-start/53797/1 "2011-12-18T16:28:09Z")

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I’m a 17 year old male living in Michigan, born in India and raised by Indian family.  
I really want to meet a great girl and if I get the chance, I can loose my virginity to. All my friends have had it and it just makes me jealous hearing about how great it is and how much fun they are having. I have had my chances but my standards are too high because I want to make my first girl a good memory. So I am hoping I can accomplish my goal from the use of the information here and [pheromones](https://a314.com/)!  
People say I am a very funny person but the problem with the girls is that most of them just look at me as the funny guy or just a friend which brings me no where! In high school I was always “just friends” with really hot girls. The closest I got to a girl was just making out and that was from a girl (who didn’t really meet my standards) that loved me after 1 week and random girls at parties. I broke up with the girl saying she was immature and because I thought I could pick up better girls but I haven’t had any luck and that was over a year ago! I feel like I messed that up. However, she wouldn’t have met my standards for my first one. As bad as it sounds, I pretty much used her to learn.  
Meeting new woman is also very easy for me because I meet always beautiful girls at school and whenever I go out. Also, I tend to meet some very good looking older woman at my work 😉  
One of my best traits is that I’m very confident, and I am always really determined to make change.  
There are many girls that satisfy my standards, although I just can’t follow through and only manage to make “friend zone” with them. I really hope this community can help me chose which products to get and make a change in my life.

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**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seeking-fresh-start/53797/2 "2011-12-18T19:18:51Z")

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Hi and welcome Dafaumi !

great to see that you made it here ..

Don´t worry that things are not running the way you want them to be with the girls .. and don´t give to much on what your buddies say .. from my experience 80% of them are straight out lying when it comes to girls !!!

Mones won´t draw you in girls .. they won´t get you laid … they wont get you a wife ..

Mones do enhance what´s already there .. and with proper Game you´re going to get the best out of mones !

Talking about Game .. look into the stuff from David de Angelo .. just do a search on the net 😃

O.k. i see you´re stuck in the friendzone with the girls … again … David de Angelo ..

Alright .. you don´t have problems in meeting women … puuhh … biggest problem solved 😉

one thing i can suggest you to get is Ammo .. it will make you be considered the sexy guy .. not only the good friend .. noo the girls will have dreams about you… but you have to start slow with this stuff as you´re pretty young .. o.k.

next one is [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) … it´s fantastic on younger girls .. and together with IO you´ll have the perfect combo that younger girls are attracted to .

IO is a fantastic conversation starter and it will make young women pretty upbeat …

alright … i think you should read up on the sticky threads …here in the intro board

and of course the ones over at the main male forum !!

HOMEWORK … YES … very important !!!

as well … as you´re pretty young .. where have your heard about mones … and what made you find this board ??

Cheers,

**Pago**

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**Author:** ![Lineweed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@Lineweed](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lineweed)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seeking-fresh-start/53797/3 "2011-12-18T20:32:08Z")

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Hey welcome to the forum Dafaumi! It seems that you don’t really have a problem meeting up girls, so yours doesn’t seem that much of a problem. Pagodeiro seemed to have addressed which pheromones you should use, and I’m no expert at it, so I’m gonna leave it at that.

However here’s a suggestion: You said that your standards are too high because you want to make your first girl a good memory? There is nothing wrong with that, and that’s precisely why you should wait. If you wish for a really good experience, even for a guy, virginity shouldn’t be something you need to throw out of the window just because all the friends around you are going at it like frenzied rabbits 😛 If your “good memory” entails both emotional and physical aspects you should wait the relationship is steady instead of a one-month-fling. I have friends with hot first-girlfriends who when asked how their first time was, just replied “meh”.

If you find a girl you really like in the near future, good for you. If not, don’t sweat it. The time will definitely come.

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**Author:** ![Dafaumi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Dafaumi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dafaumi)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 6:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seeking-fresh-start/53797/4 "2011-12-19T06:50:20Z")

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Pagodeiro:  
I heard about pheromones in a psychology class and started to do more research on it. I love forums and this community seemed very interactive after browsing for a few minutes. I also noticed that they were welcoming enough to let me try a product with the $25 gift certificate. I thought, if they can be that confident to hand out $25, they MUST be good.

Lineweed:  
Very good point. As confusing as it sounds, I want to meet a girl I will enjoy but if I have the opportunity I also want to loose my virginity. So if that makes sense: Meeting an awesome girl \> Loosing the vcard

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**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 10:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seeking-fresh-start/53797/5 "2011-12-19T10:57:03Z")

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listen to Pago 🙂 get your game right and IG and AMMO as suggested by Pago should be enough to put you on top of the situation.

if you are particularly looking at women of Indian decent, the androsterone in IG helps given you an additional edge… but there IG and AMMO works with all races as afar as I can see.

I am from India and I have used most androtics here in India as well as while on trips abroad.. it workes just fine whether you are in US, Europe or in Asia…

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**Author:** ![delta1337](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@delta1337](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/delta1337)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 4:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seeking-fresh-start/53797/6 "2011-12-19T16:28:00Z")

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Not only can you get a $25 GC, I also got 500 free points by making an account at androticsdirect… so a total of $30 off. Pretty awesome. Can’t wait for mine to get here… overnight shipping is too slow for me \>.\<

I’d like to point out that being in the “friend zone” with attractive women is not a bad thing. Sure, it’s sexually frustrating when you’re single, but the benefits when you’re in a relationship or just casually sleeping with other women are fantastic. I love my girlfriend and would _never_ cheat on her - she knows this, and knows I enjoy cuddling with my gorgeous best friend. My woman is extremely introverted, and would probably never go to a club and certainly wouldn’t wear a jaw-dropping mini-dress… like some of my “friend-zone” ladies do. It’s like the best of both worlds. Sure, blue-balls are a frequent issue, but I’m in an amazing relationship AND get to enjoy the company of sexy ladies.

To summarize, I recommend keeping your “friend zone” ladies exactly where they are. Maybe ask them if they can play match-maker with you. Of course, if they have hidden feelings for you, you might consider using some IH to encourage them to talk about it.

Also, props for waiting for a fantastic woman to loose your virginity too.

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**Author:** ![Dafaumi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Dafaumi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dafaumi)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 8:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seeking-fresh-start/53797/7 "2011-12-20T08:00:23Z")

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Aghor:  
No, I’m not looking particularly at Indian woman because there are not many where I live ☹

Delta1337:  
Unfortunately, the “friend zone” I’m in currently doesn’t have any benefits such as touching lol.

I’ve read a lot, and I think I’ll plan on getting TUTH because that would help when I go out. Unless, if someone would happen to know a product that works like TUTH but it doesn’t have to be a club/bar/party scene?

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**Author:** ![Lineweed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@Lineweed](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lineweed)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 2:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seeking-fresh-start/53797/8 "2011-12-20T14:43:42Z")

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Dafaumi, I think delta1337 means that those beautiful and attractive lady friends you have - they will stay who they are around you, lol. You can finally get a girlfriend, go have relationship-dramas worthy of a Shakespearean play but at the end of the day, they aren’t that affected by all of it since they are out-of-your-dating-circle a.k.a friend zone, so to speak. He didn’t mean being friends with benefits with all of them LOL!

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**Author:** ![Dafaumi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Dafaumi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dafaumi)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seeking-fresh-start/53797/9 "2011-12-20T16:16:20Z")

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Hahahaha alright sorry for the misunderstanding..

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**Author:** ![delta1337](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@delta1337](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/delta1337)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seeking-fresh-start/53797/10 "2011-12-20T17:16:39Z")

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> [@Dafaumi](#):
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> Aghor:  
> Unfortunately, the “friend zone” I’m in currently doesn’t have any benefits such as touching lol.

Sucks ☹ like lineweed said, the friend zone is a perfect safety net for when things go bad with your dating. When I was single I just enjoyed being around women, whether or not there was romantic interest.

All that said, I feel your pain about being friend-zoned by a girl I wanted to be more than friends with. Hope we/the mones can help you with this! When you get your mones, make sure you keep us updated in the Journal section.

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**Author:** ![Apu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Apu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Apu)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 10:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seeking-fresh-start/53797/11 "2011-12-21T22:13:54Z")

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Hey Dafaumi,

I am a 19 year old male, also from India (well kinda, Bangladesh) so my natural [pheromone](https://a314.com/) production should be quite similar to yours. My targets are also generally white females.

Unfortunately, I have an exam in 10 hours so I can’t type now, but if you can wait, I can give you a lot of advice in around 15-17 hours from now that would be of benefit to you.

In the meantime could you please leave information such as; how much do you weigh, are you fit, are you strong, how tall are you, how often do you go the gym, are you popular, are you good with fashion, are you confident etc.

Also, so I take it you are good at talking to girls? The only problem being you get friend-zoned?

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Dafaumi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Dafaumi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dafaumi)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 12:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seeking-fresh-start/53797/12 "2011-12-22T00:15:58Z")

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Yes I can wait. I would appreciate advice from a brown friend haha.

Height - 5’7"  
Weight - 140  
Fit - Skinny (like most Indians)  
Strength - I would say I have decent strength for my size, and definitely stronger than most Indians my size.  
I use to go to the gym A LOT, but I’ve been working full-time while at college so I haven’t made enough room for that. I plan on managing my schedule better next semester. So hopefully, I’ll have time to go to the gym.  
Popular - Not so much with the ladies, but that will change soon since I’m sort of new where I’m at.  
Fashion - Good.  
Confidence - Probably one of my best traits  
Talking to girls - Most of the time I’m pretty good with talking to girls  
Problem with girls - Most of them look at me as a “friend” and no potential compatibility between her and I.

Please give me this information and keep in touch with me, I would really love to hear from you.

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 12:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/seeking-fresh-start/53797/13 "2011-12-22T00:25:51Z")

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Welcome to pherotalk Defaumi!

Women love a man who is funny but not a joker, so you might want to watch that.

My team gave some excellent advice but listen to everyone and do some research before making a decision.

Sounds to me like you already have that jerky gene in ya so just need to get some more skill advice from the masters on the forum.

_ **Your gc was issued!🙂** _