# self effect for confidence/talkitive. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 28, 2009, 5:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-effect-for-confidence-talkitive/29347 "2009-05-28T05:06:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bedojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bedojo/32/1027_2.png) [@bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 5:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-effect-for-confidence-talkitive/29347/1 "2009-05-28T05:06:19Z")
Hi there, so i messed up in one my classes this term, Vector Calculus. lol So I’m going to take it over the summer at community college. along with this im planing on taking a few other classes the one I’m posting my question about is a public speaking course. Im wondering what combo/stand alone i should use? mainly looking for self effects here. main thoughts is cttm2 or openness w/ a314 or gentlmen cttm2 or openness w/ i shine cttm2 or openness any suggestions? thanks -Nate ---
**Author:** ![NigelG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ea5d25/32.png) [@NigelG](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NigelG)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 7:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-effect-for-confidence-talkitive/29347/2 "2009-05-28T07:40:02Z")
> [@bedojo](#): > > Hi there, so i messed up in one my classes this term, Vector Calculus. lol > So I’m going to take it over the summer at community college. > along with this im planing on taking a few other classes > the one I’m posting my question about is a public speaking course. > Im wondering what combo/stand alone i should use? > mainly looking for self effects here. > main thoughts is > cttm2 or openness w/ a314 or gentlmen > cttm2 or openness w/ i shine > cttm2 or openness > any suggestions? > thanks > -Nate 4x CTTM2 & 3x Shine (2x) works great for me for the effects you’re describing. Been using this for a while and it never fails. ---
**Author:** ![chrisloo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@chrisloo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chrisloo)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 9:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-effect-for-confidence-talkitive/29347/3 "2009-05-28T09:01:24Z")
I agree on the instant shine. Enough of it kind of gives you that sort of happy feeling you get when you’re drunk. ---
**Author:** ![Bonecrkr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bonecrkr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bonecrkr)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 12:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-effect-for-confidence-talkitive/29347/4 "2009-05-28T12:11:16Z")
Be careful with CTTM2. That mix tends to make people babble and will dramatically increase the talkativeness of those around you while decreasing the focus (or perhaps filter would be a better term). That’s great at a party. Not so great if you are trying to say, give a presentation on something and you are interrupted every 5 seconds by questions that go off on a tangent. ---
**Author:** ![Rattlesnake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Rattlesnake](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rattlesnake)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 2:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-effect-for-confidence-talkitive/29347/5 "2009-05-28T14:18:01Z")
Some great suggestions above, my personal favourite is 1 drop of A314 with 4 sprays of instant shine. I do some public speaking (well, giving presentations) quite regularly and it helps since I used to have a fear of it. Although, to be fair, the practice of giving lots of presenations probably did more to improve my skills rather than the pheros, they just helped put the finishing touches on it. ---
**Author:** ![bedojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bedojo/32/1027_2.png) [@bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 3:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-effect-for-confidence-talkitive/29347/6 "2009-05-28T15:05:43Z")
thanks for the replys! not to worried about them going and chatting bout stuff cuzit is a college course, would think they can control themslefs 😛