# Self-improvement w/ P86  (Sensuality mix)

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-improvement-w-p86-sensuality-mix/15812>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [July 18, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-improvement-w-p86-sensuality-mix/15812 "2008-07-18T19:17:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 1\
**Showing post:** 1

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-improvement-w-p86-sensuality-mix/15812/1 "2008-07-18T19:17:22Z")

</div>

**Introduction**

I decided to experiment with the self effects of P86. In my experiments with P86 over the past few weeks I have come to some important conclusions. During that period I anguished over the ethical dilemma of releasing such powerful secrets to the public. I like the mix I have discovered better than my favorte A314 or any other [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). Of course, it is not a fair comparison because this is completely different. Those of you without a stong moral and ethical character, without an uncompromising sense of self-control, must promise to read no farther! Go to another thread immeiately.

**Method**

As stated this is an investigation into self effects. I began with P86, which definitely has a tactile, sensuous, sexually arousing aspect to it. I proceeded to add and subtract other pheoromones over several sessions until I found the amazing formula I have chosen to share with this forum.

To the P86 I added a little bit of P80 which seemed to enhance the effect. I did not get any of the effect Bella described, just a stronger response. P79 seemed to distract from the mix whereas TAF helped significantly. I think the “stop and smell the roses” effect of TAF conflicts with the “hurry up and plough the field” effect of P79, with the former contributing to sensuality. P83 actually seemed to diminish the effects of P86 slightly. From what I know of P83 I am willing to believe its disinhibiting effect makes it worth adding more P86 in order to include P83 in the mix.

Adding P91 made me restless, anxious for a short time but then mellowed into something subtle but positive, I think. I’m not exactly sure what the P91 did. P90 seemed to produce a kinky twist, which I did not expect and which I was not able to reproduce on another occasion.

I added a couple of sprays of Liquid Trust and that strengthened the formula significantly.

I didn’t notice anything from TAH and TAL (2.5mcg each) except that they probably dampened the P86 effect slightly. I don’t think residual effects of TAL or TAH should be a problem. TAA (5-10mcg) dramatically heightens the P86 effects.

P87 seemed to encourage empathy and widen the visual window. A small amount added depth to the mix. More than a very small amount required me to see others as human beings rather than as mere sex objects. Well, there’s a time and a place for everything, but that ain’t what this mix is about. Forget the eye gazing, let’s make out.

MEO-EST seemed to enhance the general tone of the mix. Visually, it definitely gave things a more shiny, moist appearance. More than 10mcg of MEO-EST seemed to move toward white-out conditions.

My testing sessions lasted one to three hours. I proceeded by spraying individual pheromones on my chest.

**Results**

This investigation was largely inspired by Tater’s “second base” formula (10mcg P86, 35mcg P87, 2.5 mcg P83, 50mcg MEO-EST), but I believe I have discovered something much more powerful.

Optimum effects seemed to be achieved after fifteen to twenty minutes. After another twenty minutes they began to fade.

My final mix is as follows:

P86 - 50mcg  
P83 - 10mcg  
TAF - 6mcg  
TAA - 5mcg  
LT - two sprays  
P80 - 7.5mcg  
MEO-EST - 10mcg  
P87 - 3.75mcg

Items are listed in order of the importance of their contribution to the mix.

**Conclusions**

I believe the value of P86 has so far been largely overlooked and the erotic power of P83 possibly exaggerated. P86 is very tactile and very sensuous. This is greatly enhanced by TAF which urges one to linger over sensual details. The physically centeredness of TAA really fans the flames of passion in combination with P86’s tactile sensuality. P80 adds a sense of impetus. I suspect this formula could be a great libido enhancer.

The only significant dissappointment is that it seems to wear off rather quickly. OTOH an oil based formula might turn one into a hopeless sex addict.

---

_[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-improvement-w-p86-sensuality-mix/15812)._
