# Self-improvement w/ P86 (Sensuality mix) **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 18, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-improvement-w-p86-sensuality-mix/15812 "2008-07-18T19:17:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 13
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 6:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-improvement-w-p86-sensuality-mix/15812/13 "2008-10-26T06:54:29Z")
P86 Sensuality Mix, version 2.0 **P86 Sensuality Mix, version 2.0** P86 - 50mcg P87 - 10mcg P83 - 10mcg TAA - 5mcg TAF - 6mcg MEO-EST - 10mcg LT - two sprays P80 - 7.5mcg P81 - 2.5 mcg DPG oil - 10% by volume I mixed up a new batch of my Sensuality Mix. The main difference is the increase in the amount of P87, which I now list as the second most influential pheromone in the mix. Its effect as an empathogen and the P86/P87 balance are discussed in my previous post. The P87 also works well to give the P86 positive direction. [Its anti-depressant effect has been discussed elsewhere](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p87-the-brain-clutter-cleaner/19709/11). I also included in this batch the P81 mentioned in post #8. I added 10% DPG oil to slow down the diffusion of the pheormones. Last batch I was wanting to add a little bit more every twenty minutes or so. The 10% DPG seems to work well in making it longer lasting and well balanced for at least a couple of hours. I do seem to like adding more on the first application though, but that would make sense. With the first batch I would often begin with a half dose and add the second half (and eventually “third half”) a little later. Now I definitley want to start with the whole dose (mcgs listed above) and that tends to be enough. I have been field testing it. There are no incidents worth reporting in detail other than to say that the upgrades are functioning as desired. It makes being close to a woman feel amazingly natural and good. I generally wear it with A314 and some [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) (IO and/or IH and sometimes some TAA oil or SOE). With a couple of drops of IH extreme version oil, this mix really seems to form a strong bond between me and a woman. I have come to believe that IO (about four sprays) enhances the romantic feeling and adds a lot to this mix. I discussed in post #10 how P86 can go yucky and needs positive direction. [Tater makes a similar observation](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/106). P87 provides this positive direction and so does the IO. I think next batch I am going to add alphanol to the mix so it will be impossible to use it without the alphanol. That should eliminate the likelyhood of a “bad trip.” Does anyone know how much alphanol is suposed to be in one spray of Instant Openness? In this mix, there are two remaining flaws I want to work on. The first is the sometimes excessively calming/sedating properties of P86 as discussed in my previous post. The second is that I want a deeper sensuality from it. It does great in making people look good to each other, creating an empathy and promoting a comfortable romantic mood. I want it to do more to electrify the sense of touch and intensify the sex act. I don’t know if I am asking too much but that is my next target. **Preliminary tests with additional pheros** Now that I have a new batch to work with, I am beginning to do a little self testing with promising pheromones which I think might enhance the mix. **P103** - This seems to lighten the load. In another post I described it as making me feel a little drunk. In my self tests with my P86 Sensuality Mix with P103 added, I found 25mcg or more P103 helped a lot – especially when I was stressed about other things. It makes sense that one would be more sensuous if life’s other worries were lifted. That’s one of the reasons people drink. I don’t want to add too much P103 because it does seem to limit one’s intellectual capacity, and I don’t want to impress a woman with my stupidity. **EST** - This is often described as the cuddly pheromone. It is an important part of Sugarspice’s \*([The I Need Sex Now Mix](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-i-need-sex-now-mix/9697)). I get the impression that EST is pushed from being cuddly but not sexual to being sexy, even desperately horny, by the addition of MEO-EST, which is already in my mix. My self testing indicates that 450mcg EST creates optimal desire. After reading some of the other posts, I realize that that is an awful lot!! I do not yet know how I am going to experience the social response. Apparently, the common wisdom is that for a man 50mcg is plenty. [Tater claims it doesn’t become a sensual booster until more than 100mcg](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/106). There are men who claim to get good reactions with 200mcg or more. Tater also claims that P86 combined with EST will make women “proactively protective” which ain’t necessarily good for one’s manlyness. I am in a real quandry about the levels with which I want to start field testing. **P102** - A couple of posts about P102 describe it as enhancing one’s sense of taste and enjoyment of music. I wondered if P102’s nonvisual sensuality might add something to my mix (or detract from the enhanced visual aestheics already there). In self testing I noticed that I was licking my lips and wanting to kiss a woman. Maybe that was my imagination more than P102, but I’m wondering if P102 is going to be the kissy-face pheromone. With that, all I need is a sloe gin, southern comfort, vodka & orange juice pheromone. I wonder if that is going to be P88 – or possibly P96, both of which are still out of stock. Dang! I really need to test these two. [Sloe gin, southern comfort, vodka & orange juice are the ingredients for a “slow comfortable screw”.] I also want to see what TAC will do with this mix, but I’m afraid it’ll clash with the TAA. Maybe for Version 3.0 I’ll leave the TAA out so I can add it and/or TAC separately and see what works best.\* --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-improvement-w-p86-sensuality-mix/15812)._