# Serious Considerations P1/P2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 30, 2008, 5:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/serious-considerations-p1-p2/16547 "2008-07-30T05:49:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 2\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bowcasters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@Bowcasters](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bowcasters)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2008, 5:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/serious-considerations-p1-p2/16547/1 "2008-07-30T05:49:34Z")
I figured since this seems like a good place to get answers, getting this question out of the way would be good. Especially if someone else with the Same experience would post. Background: When I was 12 I began a span of 6 months of suicidal depression. I was diagnosed With Bipolar depression. Between 13 and 16 I was probably suicidal for at least a third of a year, total, but at different times. 17 and 18, I do get depressed some, not much suicidal issues now, better meds and such. But all those bouts of depression and anxiety, were all in key developmental times. So I have always been a bit behind the game on relationships, and friends. The friends thing is fine now. But you don’t develop much socially when your unwilling to leave your house, and on 24 hour suicide watch by your parents. I am not trying to grab pity, but these are all true details I find necessary in painting a fair picture. So I have gotten to this point, 18 last December. With 1 6 month relationship, 1 2 week f%&k-up. And about 7 possibilities, and turned in the best friends situation. This bears a few hard questions. A. Any advice or experience, on how products like instant shine, could effect my mood, or issues. I am generally a bit down all the time. B. Its obvious the honesty department isn’t an issue. But I think I come off as too sensitive, and caring a bit too much. So I become the tell all friend, no possibility of attraction. (It’s obvious there is something I do that causes this.) So I am wondering what would be a good product that could coexist with my honest sensitive nature. But at the same time put out a more attractive possible boyfriend message? C. Expanding on B. Most of the things it takes to be trusted, and have girls become comfortable and honest already me. I do whether I know it or not. So that sense of understanding, caring, sensitivity and comfortable, can already be established, but the lack of attraction makes me a big brother. Sorry this is long… I can only put meaning in the details… I have one girl right now. After hours of conversation and hanging out. Came to this conclusion between us. This isnt a quote but the meaning I remember. She basically agreed that I was honest, and caring, she felt comfortable around me, she thought I am funny, she likes my sensitivity. She told I am the only person who she thinks really understands her. All that to say, she laid the emotional framework that a relationship between us would need. But ended with, “Im just not attracted to you, and you can’t start something without that.” We are at a point right now, where I am trying to keep a just friends mindset, because at our current positions, anything else is hard for both of us. I don’t know what the possibility of helping this situation with [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) might be. A but seems worth it. What would be something that I could use, to add that attractive sense, make her feel like she wants me. If I could add that to everything else, since we talk and spend so much time together I think that could work. So are there any suggestions on how that might work out? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2008, 11:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/serious-considerations-p1-p2/16547/2 "2008-07-30T11:18:04Z")
> [@](#): > > A. Any advice or experience, on how products like instant shine, could effect my mood, or issues. I am generally a bit down all the time. pheromones do effect moods but they can not overcome depression. Depression as you know is a hormonal issue. Mones while they do cause self effects in some are primarily used to effect others. Instant Shine is known for how great it makes some users feel but I cant say one way or the other that it will improve your situation. > [@](#): > > “Im just not attracted to you, and you can’t start something without that.” Have you read what pheromones can do and what they cant do ? The link is in my signature. Mones are just a part of the picture in attraction. There are other componants to consider. Visual, compatability, shared morals and values ect ect. On there own pheromones increase attraction and interest and influance others to act on those feelings and emotions. The key word is **increase** , there needs to be some attraction to begin with, Something besides friendship that draws her to you. Now there very well likely may be even though she has said she is not attacted to you in this way but I just want you to have a realistic view on what pheromones can do. I suggest you try masculine pheromones like AMMO, Instant Gentleman, [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) and see how you do with those. Turn Up The Heat comes on strong and your young so that one worries me a bit for you. Keep in mind they wont make her change her mind but if she has a mild attraction for you it can increase that and aid you in breaking out of the friends box. They wont do all the work for you though. Tisha