# setting up a right vibe with a girl **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 24, 2011, 3:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/setting-up-a-right-vibe-with-a-girl/49492 "2011-03-24T03:33:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ggrigo33](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ggrigo33/32/799_2.png) [@ggrigo33](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ggrigo33)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 3:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/setting-up-a-right-vibe-with-a-girl/49492/1 "2011-03-24T03:33:10Z")
so i have a this thing, i am pretty comfortable striking up a conversation with a girl, keep the conversation interesting, light and positive. but here’s the thing, when i get her number, she doesn’t answer my texts or calls. Unfortunately it happens often enough for me to say that common denominator is me, however i can’t pinpoint exactly what i am doing wrong. I tune up my game skills by reading David D’Angelo’s materials and other dating gurus, but until i find what aspect of my behavior i need to change i hope [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) can help me in this stage. Now i think maybe pheromones can help me set a vibe were girls will answer my texts and calls In a nutshell: what products and combinations i can use to give create a feelings of curiosity and “I want to see you again” vibe. ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 3:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/setting-up-a-right-vibe-with-a-girl/49492/2 "2011-03-24T03:38:35Z")
I’ve read all of David D’s books …good stuff…also look up RSD’s The Blueprint. but for mones AMMO, IG are good starters to create a masculine sexy vibe-…but really you’d need to be much more specific as to what you think the issues are and what it is you actually want.. Ive used mones at different times to get what I wanted, but what exactly do you want? one-nighter? relationship? ---
**Author:** ![ggrigo33](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ggrigo33/32/799_2.png) [@ggrigo33](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ggrigo33)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 3:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/setting-up-a-right-vibe-with-a-girl/49492/3 "2011-03-24T03:52:41Z")
> [@happytappin](#): > > I’ve read all of David D’s books …good stuff…also look up RSD’s The Blueprint. > but for mones > > AMMO, IG are good starters to create a masculine sexy vibe-…but really you’d need to be much more specific as to what you think the issues are and what it is you actually want.. > > Ive used mones at different times to get what I wanted, but what exactly do you want? one-nighter? relationship? I am looking for a short term relationship, no crazy fall in love thing, just hang out, have a good time. Something like an open relationship or friends with benefits would be the best. This is what i am shooting for, however I admit, i don’t know how to set up a vibe for that. I mean if mones can be like “crotches” for me, i can do the rest and walk the distance. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 4:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/setting-up-a-right-vibe-with-a-girl/49492/4 "2011-03-24T04:05:40Z")
How much time are you spending in the comfort phase? Sounds like you hit attraction on the head. You spend enough time in comfort to get a phone number, but are you spending enough time for her to know you well enough to talk to you later. Are they giving you the right number? Also, how much Kino are you getting in? Mones, I would say IH and [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 4:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/setting-up-a-right-vibe-with-a-girl/49492/5 "2011-03-24T04:05:50Z")
Crotches? you mean Crutch…although some mones do come from “crotches” …hahah anyway I’d try AMMO & IH to start. Ammo has a very manily sexy vibe to it…whilst IH deepens conversations and outpour of thought along with connection. ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 11:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/setting-up-a-right-vibe-with-a-girl/49492/6 "2011-03-24T11:15:24Z")
If you havn’t read this already there’s some great advice in this thread that may be worth thinking about if the women are getting the “buyers remorse” > [@The Lorenzo Von Matterhorn .....sorta](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-lorenzo-von-matterhorn-sorta/49414/1): > > First for those that don’t know what the Lorenzo Von Matterhorn is…watch this before reading any further. Ok now, I’m not suggesting making up a fake name, or building fake websites about a fake life or anything like that but the clip is accurate in as much as that if you manage to spark attraction. At some point, maybe not right then and there but perhaps later that night…maybe when she’s home alone or hanging with her girlfriends a good number of women WILL google … ---
**Author:** ![samuraitea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/samuraitea/32/1998_2.png) [@samuraitea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/samuraitea)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 11:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/setting-up-a-right-vibe-with-a-girl/49492/7 "2011-03-24T11:24:52Z")
I would honestly go for this in stages… I would first start with IO/IH, IS and MAYBE IG and/or AMMO with it.. This phase she is going to see how easy and bright and cute you are, when a girl feels like that she may even text you first! but a response back will almost be imminent (if you get her feeling that way). Then IG or A314 is going to follow this up when you want to get things moving, of course you can bring up the ones you used in phase one too but IG and A314 are your new bases now. Now she is feeling that you could become her man! Sorry this is short…typing in class 😕 ---
**Author:** ![ggrigo33](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ggrigo33/32/799_2.png) [@ggrigo33](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ggrigo33)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 2:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/setting-up-a-right-vibe-with-a-girl/49492/8 "2011-03-24T14:20:20Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > How much time are you spending in the comfort phase? Sounds like you hit attraction on the head. You spend enough time in comfort to get a phone number, but are you spending enough time for her to know you well enough to talk to you later. Are they giving you the right number? Also, how much Kino are you getting in? > > Mones, I would say IH and Ammo. They give me the right number. After i meet a girl, i focus on getting her feel comfortable with talking to me. I don’t put too much kino before i get her number, except playful hit on a shoulder when she teases me about something. Here’s what’s weird, i go to school, nursing school, which means i am surrounded by women, and i’m pretty outgoing, majority of them know me, and always happy to talk and flirt with me. But here’s what happens a lot of times, when i get a number and text her it feels like she doesn’t know me or something. She answers my texts with just “yes,” “no,” or “maybe” responses. which to me doesn’t make any sense. I know when i talk to a girl, she enjoys the conversation, but after we done talking i don’t know what she thinks about me. I want her to think “I want to see him again, it was fun.” The thing that is weird and i get it a lot, is that many girls think that I am this player who has like ten girlfriends and 20 booty calls. And it is not my imagination, i heard that from many different girls. To Happytappin: haha, I have no idea how to spell that word, English is my second language. Thanks for the advice. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 2:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/setting-up-a-right-vibe-with-a-girl/49492/9 "2011-03-24T14:28:27Z")
> [@ggrigo33](#): > > They give me the right number. After i meet a girl, i focus on getting her feel comfortable with talking to me. I don’t put too much kino before i get her number, except playful hit on a shoulder when she teases me about something. > > Here’s what’s weird, i go to school, nursing school, which means i am surrounded by women, and i’m pretty outgoing, majority of them know me, and always happy to talk and flirt with me. But here’s what happens a lot of times, when i get a number and text her it feels like she doesn’t know me or something. She answers my texts with just “yes,” “no,” or “maybe” responses. which to me doesn’t make any sense. > > I know when i talk to a girl, she enjoys the conversation, but after we done talking i don’t know what she thinks about me. I want her to think “I want to see him again, it was fun.” > > The thing that is weird and i get it a lot, is that many girls think that I am this player who has like ten girlfriends and 20 booty calls. And it is not my imagination, i heard that from many different girls. > > To Happytappin: > haha, I have no idea how to spell that word, English is my second language. > Thanks for the advice. Based on this post. I don’t think you are spending enough time in comfort phase before leaving. And when I say time, I don’t necessarily mean minutes and hours. I mean you aren’t getting her to a level of comfort enough to continue talking to you. Also, Kino is important. I don’t care what anyone says. I kino everybody I meet 3 times in the first minute of knowing them. Why? I find it builds comfort. Shake of the hand, touch on the arm, pat on the shoulder. Or something like that. If it’s women, it gets them used to me touching them. They associate me with touch. It also allows attraction to build. Ammo and IH. Do you know how to build rapport? Mirroring and leading? If girls think you are a player it means they getting a genuine vibe from you. AMMO and IH. They act like they don’t know you, because they don’t know you. ---
**Author:** ![ggrigo33](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ggrigo33/32/799_2.png) [@ggrigo33](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ggrigo33)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 2:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/setting-up-a-right-vibe-with-a-girl/49492/10 "2011-03-24T14:43:36Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > Based on this post. I don’t think you are spending enough time in comfort phase before leaving. And when I say time, I don’t necessarily mean minutes and hours. I mean you aren’t getting her to a level of comfort enough to continue talking to you. Also, Kino is important. I don’t care what anyone says. I kino everybody I meet 3 times in the first minute of knowing them. Why? I find it builds comfort. Shake of the hand, touch on the arm, pat on the shoulder. Or something like that. If it’s women, it gets them used to me touching them. They associate me with touch. It also allows attraction to build. > > Ammo and IH. Do you know how to build rapport? Mirroring and leading? If girls think you are a player it means they getting a genuine vibe from you. AMMO and IH. They act like they don’t know you, because they don’t know you. Hmm, it makes sense, i guess i don’t spend enough effort on building rapport. I know how to build rapport, but i prob don’t use it enough. thanks for the advice ---
**Author:** ![ggrigo33](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ggrigo33/32/799_2.png) [@ggrigo33](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ggrigo33)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 1:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/setting-up-a-right-vibe-with-a-girl/49492/11 "2011-03-25T01:14:38Z")
question about a specific mone. “come talk to me, mix2” is it good? i mean does it make people more inclined to start talking to you? ---
**Author:** ![Marihino](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marihino/32/1286_2.png) [@Marihino](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marihino)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 1:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/setting-up-a-right-vibe-with-a-girl/49492/12 "2011-03-25T01:25:12Z")
If I understood correctly, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) is 70% alpha-androstenol and 30% beta-androstenol. Instant Honesty is 70% beta and 30% alpha. And Come Talk To Me is 50/50. Of course that’s a huge simplification, it’s all diluted and probably mixed with small amounts of other ingredients. But you get the idea. CTTM should theoretically give same results as equal amounts of IO and IH. But I haven’t used any of these, so I’m just saying what I learned by reading the forum so far.