# Sex -Up the EST **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 15, 2009, 4:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sex-up-the-est/24921 "2009-01-15T16:15:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 7:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sex-up-the-est/24921/21 "2009-01-19T19:33:29Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > True, I notice it to which is why I dont post my notes much on the putatives. Same with Tacitus and a few others I think. There are a few putatives that I just dont get anything others have gotten with them. Its best to look for the pattern in all the reports though. Usually there is one or two emotions or reaction that keeps repeating itself for everyone or at least a large percentage of people testing. Sometimes the emotion is just similar or related to another feeling. If you chart peoples reports and reactions you can see it easier. Still they need a heck of alot more feedback the they have been getting. > > Whoops that reminds me of another task I have to do LOL > > I find for myself the longer I use a experimone like EST or one of the putatives the more nuances show themselves over time. My intial impression of EST is still basically the same but as my enviroment changes or situation so does the vibe. I guess that is normal though. > > Of course they are, I have both the oil version and the origonal myself. I prefer the old EOW but I will take what I cant get at this point. Cops are not easy to come by compared to other mones. I like BI which you can get the same place as the oil one better though. > > Tisha i have asked Jas, but she is busy so… which putatives do we need more feedback on? which ones in testing would be the most help _at this time_? ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sex-up-the-est/24921/22 "2009-01-19T19:37:45Z")
> [@msselva](#): > > do try p83, it gives off this flirty/sexy edge. However, with est, people seemed to be more caring about me. I asked my teacher a question (I was pretty worried about my given topic), and he did stuff like pat my back, pat my arms and my head…chuckle out loud (and this guy is a grumpy ass) but then I’m not sure if he’s normally touchy, a moody person or if it was just plain coincidence, or if it was est and p83 working their magic. So I’ll need to use it more to see if the results are consistent. Yea, I felt like a dog though. But hey if good marks drop in, I’m not complaining 😃 > > I like p86 so far though, it definately improved my self esteem. Today morning, I felt so pretty! sounds to me like P86 OR the [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) makes others more tactile… i myself seem to notice this with the P86 wore alot of it and didnt feel pretty . looking forward to that if it should happen when i up the dose. you never know. maybe the P83 with my TAL dominant mixes. if i feel adventurous i may try that at work tonight 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 7:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sex-up-the-est/24921/23 "2009-01-19T19:40:04Z")
> [@](#): > > i have asked Jas, but she is busy so… > which putatives do we need more feedback on? Whewwww I keep forgeting I am supposed to make a post about this. I will do it now, Thanks Lor 😉 ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sex-up-the-est/24921/24 "2009-01-19T19:41:12Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > i myself seem to notice this with the P86 > > wore alot of it and didnt feel pretty . > looking forward to that if it should happen when i up the dose. > you never know. What dosage of p86 did you use so far? if it helps, I used 100mcg today, but I had coffee to save my brain lol > [@Lor](#): > > maybe the P83 with my TAL dominant mixes. > if i feel adventurous i may try that at work tonight 🙂 I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![remmy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/remmy/32/2451_2.png) [@remmy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/remmy)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 5:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sex-up-the-est/24921/25 "2009-01-20T05:56:21Z")
hahaha i know phero doped up selva 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 1:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sex-up-the-est/24921/26 "2009-01-21T13:01:25Z")
> [@ntk23](#): > > I would very much like to get EST and Instant Jerk in my next order and try mixing those two for a laugh/experiment. I wonder if they’d > a) cancel each other out or > b) work orthogonally in some strange manner or > c) something else very weird > > What’s the general consensus on how long an application of EST lasts for, BTW? Update: I did (and TAA too, and got a free Spaceland 🙂) DHL man just turned up. Impulse buys FTW! (as long as they’re from AD that is…) Update 2: 60mcg later (EST, not IJ) - Awesome 😃 Instant Man Magic indeed! ---
**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sex-up-the-est/24921/27 "2009-01-21T17:40:55Z")
I have the most recent version of EoW and was surprised how easily it was covered by an equal volume of Pink Sugar. Compared to the original beta version, that just seemed far too easy. It did have a touch of the “pink and squishy” aroma on dry down but it was not very strong. So for a lady’s sex mix with Pink Sugar, EoW and TAH, would you recommend EST or Meo-EST? Might add some SpaceLand too. ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sex-up-the-est/24921/28 "2009-01-21T17:55:47Z")
> [@Whitehall](#): > > I have the most recent version of EoW and was surprised how easily it was covered by an equal volume of Pink Sugar. Compared to the original beta version, that just seemed far too easy. > > It did have a touch of the “pink and squishy” aroma on dry down but it was not very strong. > > So for a lady’s sex mix with Pink Sugar, EoW and TAH, would you recommend EST or Meo-EST? Might add some SpaceLand too. I was recommended EST myself, and it’s what I’m currently trying to test but I know Diane uses Meo-EST and loves it. (I was told Meo-EST is supposedly a bit more masculine?) ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sex-up-the-est/24921/29 "2009-01-21T17:57:09Z")
> [@Whitehall](#): > > I have the most recent version of EoW and was surprised how easily it was covered by an equal volume of Pink Sugar. Compared to the original beta version, that just seemed far too easy. > > It did have a touch of the “pink and squishy” aroma on dry down but it was not very strong. > > So for a lady’s sex mix with Pink Sugar, EoW and TAH, would you recommend EST or Meo-EST? Might add some SpaceLand too. im just curious why you would add spaceland to a sex mix? ---
**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 7:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sex-up-the-est/24921/30 "2009-01-21T19:35:23Z")
Lor, I love intoxicated lovemaking! Add sensual intoxicants to the intoxication of love and you’ve multiplied the pleasure. Frankly, a couple of puffs of 420 before sex really enhances the experience and Spaceland is reputed to be similar. Some ladies can’t or won’t share the 420 with me so Spaceland seems a legal alternative. (Yes, even Rock-Ribbed Republicans have vices!) More than a little ethanol just dulls. Granted, my first Spaceland arrives today (along with the TAH, et al) but I’ve had a bottle of A-nol chemset from L-S and had fun with it - long gone by now. Either EST or Meo-EST will probably be in my next order, or at least the best-guess sexuality ingredient I can devise. Note that I’m still building an inventory of compounds and mixtures beyond the L-S products. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 8:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sex-up-the-est/24921/31 "2009-01-21T20:01:36Z")
> [@Whitehall](#): > > Lor, > > I love intoxicated lovemaking! Add sensual intoxicants to the intoxication of love and you’ve multiplied the pleasure. > > Frankly, a couple of puffs of 420 before sex really enhances the experience and Spaceland is reputed to be similar. Some ladies can’t or won’t share the 420 with me so Spaceland seems a legal alternative. (Yes, even Rock-Ribbed Republicans have vices!) More than a little ethanol just dulls. > > Granted, my first Spaceland arrives today (along with the TAH, et al) but I’ve had a bottle of A-nol chemset from L-S and had fun with it - long gone by now. > > Either EST or Meo-EST will probably be in my next order, or at least the best-guess sexuality ingredient I can devise. > > Note that I’m still building an inventory of compounds and mixtures beyond the L-S products. If you want intoxicating love-making, try adding high amounts of Beta Androstenol and a bit of P103 and Meo-Est. Est is calming, not sensual for women. Meo-Est is slow and sensual. Beta Androstenol at high doses becomes deeply mystical and timeless. P103 is hypnotic and mindless and adds a nice butterflies-in-the-tummy physical excitement when it is layered or combined with meo-est. And don’t forget the TAF - 10.0-20.0 mcg to pull it all together and ramp it all up. Diane ---
**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sex-up-the-est/24921/32 "2009-01-21T20:22:33Z")
I thought Spaceland was a half and half mix of alpha and beta plus herbals. I’ll start with that and maybe get the straight beta later. So Meo-Est, P103, and TAF - looks like I’ll be blowing my “fun money” budget next week! ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sex-up-the-est/24921/33 "2009-01-21T21:03:13Z")
> [@Whitehall](#): > > I thought Spaceland was a half and half mix of alpha and beta plus herbals. I’ll start with that and maybe get the straight beta later. > > So Meo-Est, P103, and TAF - looks like I’ll be blowing my “fun money” budget next week! Spaceland is high Alpha Androstenol. You’ll get the high. You won’t get the deep and mystical and timeless with it. That is beta territory. You will only need a very low dose of P103 to get the effects. I find over 5.0 mcg to be too sedating. Diane ---
**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 9:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sex-up-the-est/24921/34 "2009-01-21T21:17:50Z")
Howabout a alpha, beta, and omega(3) mix? “deep and mystical and timeless with it” The “deep” part is a given thanks to our anatomies and the Viagra. As to timeless, I’m good for an hour, maybe 2, at a time without a break. I’m sure that some women have thought I went on f-o-r-e-v-e-r. Mystical, we should shoot for. I’ll put P103 high on my list, thanks Diane. (Sorry for the lame witticisms.) ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sex-up-the-est/24921/35 "2009-01-21T21:26:31Z")
> [@Whitehall](#): > > Howabout a alpha, beta, and omega(3) mix? > > “deep and mystical and timeless with it” > > The “deep” part is a given thanks to our anatomies and the Viagra. > > As to timeless, I’m good for an hour, maybe 2, at a time without a break. I’m sure that some women have thought I went on f-o-r-e-v-e-r. > > Mystical, we should shoot for. > > I’ll put P103 high on my list, thanks Diane. > > (Sorry for the lame witticisms.) Sorry, you gotta be like the Mad Tater and learn to experience things like a woman if you want to understand what I mean by “deep and mystical and timeless” and why that is so desirable. But I’ll give you a couple of hints - the more global the experience, the more meaningful. Talkin about going for the _soul orgasm_ here. Diane ---
**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sex-up-the-est/24921/36 "2009-01-21T21:38:03Z")
That brings us to another question about sexual/sensuality mixes that I’ll open the discussion on in a separate, new thread latter today. I knew what you meant! But it is ying and yan - women receive while men act. Soul sex is the goal for both but as a man I still have to focus and drive. I strive for mindlessness/egoless soul melding for both of us. I’ve read some of Tater’s stuff and it is good! [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sex-up-the-est/24921.md?page=1)