# Shine or Alpha **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 3, 2009, 5:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shine-or-alpha/32146 "2009-09-03T05:46:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kevin68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c6cbf5/32.png) [@kevin68](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kevin68)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 5:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shine-or-alpha/32146/1 "2009-09-03T05:46:35Z")
Ok, I tried IShine and I liked it. Is it worth paying extra to try Alpha next? I was hoping for some unbiased advice from people who have tried both. Or maybe it would be a good idea to try Turn up the heat next? Thanks in advance. ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 7:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shine-or-alpha/32146/2 "2009-09-03T07:28:43Z")
YOu can try all the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) but which pheromone is your priority is really depend on what kind of effect you want to achieve. A314 is for respect, trust, alha effect. TUTH is for sexual attraction. ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 1:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shine-or-alpha/32146/3 "2009-09-03T13:00:56Z")
i think you’ll find very few unbiased opinions here. for one simple reason, this shit works and it works well all you have to do is drive it wherever you want to go. IS and A314 are two completely different products with vastly different signatures. they each work amazingly well in completely different capacities yet lose nothing and only benefit each other in tandem. they are easily two of the most popular products here for a reason. A314 is absolutely at the top of my heap for a bang for your buck utilitarian yet authoratative phero combo. if i could only buy 1 phero product from only 1 company it would be A314 hands down. beginners can easily chase someone away with it however since it has a very commanding presence. if you know talk the talk, A314 is walk the walk. ---
**Author:** ![lukus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e4f/32.png) [@lukus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lukus)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 4:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shine-or-alpha/32146/4 "2009-09-03T16:15:06Z")
> [@kevin68](#): > > Ok, I tried IShine and I liked it. Is it worth paying extra to try Alpha next? I was hoping for some unbiased advice from people who have tried both. Or maybe it would be a good idea to try Turn up the heat next? > > Thanks in advance. Alpha is a **good** pheromone. It’s in _A lot_ of products, not just androtics but other companies too. Instant Honesty, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Come talk to me all have Alpha /Beta in differernt ratios. Alpha /Beta certainly would be a good combination with Instant shine.. Lots of androtics’ other products have Alpha in it as well so you can pretty much rest asure Alpha is a good pheromone.. High doses of Alpha, which is what Spaceland has (50mcg i think) recently a couple people have posted good things about it though that might not exactly be a product you’ll want to get. I am however going to buy Alpha 150mcg soon and **test** with 🙂 How effective alpha is on it’s own and what mcg’s I do no know. You would probabily be better off buying one of the three products which is basically Alpha /Beta mixes (Instant honesty, instant openness and come talk to me). The ratios (from other threads) are roughly (Alpha:beta) 30%:70% | 70%:30% | 50:50 how correct this is i do not know (i’m going by what other threads say afterall). However, each product has a purposes, alpha is supposed to make you more approachable and beta is more for deeper conversations, if you don’t need this then maybe another product is better for you 🙂 Edit: sorry if you were on about A314 XD haha 🙂 I’ve not used that personally I’m refering to Alpha-androstenol 😛