# shine/taa ifm/a1 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 28, 2008, 7:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shine-taa-ifm-a1/20505 "2008-09-28T19:57:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![in\_uk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/in_uk/32/2130_2.png) [@in\_uk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/in_uk)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 7:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shine-taa-ifm-a1/20505/1 "2008-09-28T19:57:02Z")
hi all can you help out. shine = TAA IFM = A-1 [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) = ? does anyone know this? thanks ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shine-taa-ifm-a1/20505/2 "2008-09-28T20:06:06Z")
Mainly Androsterone. ---
**Author:** ![in\_uk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/in_uk/32/2130_2.png) [@in\_uk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/in_uk)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shine-taa-ifm-a1/20505/3 "2008-09-28T20:40:57Z")
thanks ntk23 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 9:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shine-taa-ifm-a1/20505/4 "2008-09-28T21:28:36Z")
> [@](#): > > shine = TAA Well, sorta. TAA is the main pheromone component. I also contains a bunch of steering [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and other “refinements.” I assume they work well for many folks but personally found straight TAA (spray) massively more effective. Really has an obvious kick for about 30 minutes and is gone within the hour. IS is so subtle I couldn’t tell if it worked or not… ---
**Author:** ![in\_uk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/in_uk/32/2130_2.png) [@in\_uk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/in_uk)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 9:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shine-taa-ifm-a1/20505/5 "2008-09-28T21:31:26Z")
im not sure if IS works that well either, i definately get a strange kind of anxiety feeling from it so i am going to try taa. ---
**Author:** ![tfer15](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfer15/32/711_2.png) [@tfer15](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfer15)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 1:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shine-taa-ifm-a1/20505/6 "2008-09-29T01:54:09Z")
yeah i also think that IS is not good by itself but layered deep within a combo. havent got anything like a good feeling from it or more people laughing and such. darn ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 4:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shine-taa-ifm-a1/20505/7 "2008-09-29T04:10:55Z")
i’ve had overt hits from plain un-combined or mixed [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), some of which have been written about here over the years. i’m also ordering a bottle of TAA at 50mcg/spray because i hate spraying anything multiple times and i want to have some fun. ---
**Author:** ![vic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vic/32/1113_2.png) [@vic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vic)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 5:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shine-taa-ifm-a1/20505/8 "2008-12-04T05:58:18Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > TAA Really has an obvious kick for about 30 minutes and is gone within the hour. IS is so subtle I couldn’t tell if it worked or not… I sent back IS because it was useless. Was planning on getting TAA instead but not if it dies within an hour! Should I just forget about a IS replacement? ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 7:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shine-taa-ifm-a1/20505/9 "2008-12-04T07:51:53Z")
i know that not everything works for everyone but to say that [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) is useless is a bit much. loads of people here use it and use it very effectively every day. i’ve been using IS and TAA for over three years now and i certainly wouldn’t keep doing it if it was useless. ---
**Author:** ![vic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vic/32/1113_2.png) [@vic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vic)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 9:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shine-taa-ifm-a1/20505/10 "2008-12-04T09:27:07Z")
so is TAA any more effective than IS? or should I just ignore it? ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 1:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shine-taa-ifm-a1/20505/11 "2008-12-05T01:46:16Z")
Shine is not very strong. That’s all. But it does have at least 3 pheromones in it of which TAA is the dominant one. (i’m guessing one of the others is p79 or TAF to make it a bit more obvious?). Comes in at 15mcg per spray, but I’m not sure how much is TAA. TAA stand alone can be ordered in whatever strength you want so you can get it really powerful so you notice it quick. Shine has extra components to try and keep the stuff around a bit more, wheras TAA has a very short life expectancy. ---
**Author:** ![vic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vic/32/1113_2.png) [@vic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vic)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 1:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shine-taa-ifm-a1/20505/12 "2008-12-05T01:51:23Z")
hmm the life expectancy is what I wanted most, I never respray anything during the day and I hate carrying things around, even to-gos. Maybe I just have to get a higher strength IS, or forget it completely.. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 10:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shine-taa-ifm-a1/20505/13 "2008-12-05T22:52:09Z")
> [@vic](#): > > hmm the life expectancy is what I wanted most, I never respray anything during the day and I hate carrying things around, even to-gos. Maybe I just have to get a higher strength IS, or forget it completely.. Life expectancy is a function of the evaporative characteristics of the pheromone molecule and the carrier. The “Instant” line has a scent package that is designed to help the pheromones evaporate and get out there. Therefore, straight TAA will “last longer” at the same dosage because it does not have the help evaporating. But, that help evaporating is there for a reason. The more you have in the air around you, the more will be able to go into the nose of the people around you. It sounds to me as if you’re not patient enough. Did you spend a week using one spray, then a week using 2 sprays, then a week using 3 sprays, and so on? At least 3-4 days with each dose level is an absolute minimum. You seem to want an instant explosion, but the fact is, pheromones are complex. If you’re standing outside and it’s even breezy, guess where those pheromones are going? If she’s not standing downwind of you, they’re not going up her nose, that’s for sure! And even if she is, chances are good she’s going to be far enough away that it dilutes them. Then, it takes an average of 5 to 7 minutes of exposure for someone to respond to the pheromones in my experience. Are you wearing enough, in a place where the airflow isn’t just blowing them away, and staying in one place long enough to affect someone close by? Are they close enough? Have they been exposed for long enough? How does this pheromone mix with your personal signature? Have you showered recently? What’s your race and blood type? Is the moon going to crash on your head? Patience. Pheromones work. You just have to understand that they work when and how they can work, and not all circumstances allow for that. Some pheromones, such as TAA/IS have more subtle effects. IS seems to do best for me when I pair it with IO and/or IFM. But I can assure you, I have had some absolutely magnificent hits from IS - when the circumstances were right. Shame you sent your IS back. I’d be willing to bet you didn’t give it much of a chance at all. ---
**Author:** ![vic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vic/32/1113_2.png) [@vic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vic)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 11:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shine-taa-ifm-a1/20505/14 "2008-12-05T23:23:13Z")
I’ve tried 1 spray, 2 sprays, 3 sprays, 4 sprays for months.. tried it mixed with IO and ammo, indoors, outdoors, in cars, classrooms etc. Been using it for about 6 months. Doesn’t work on me or others, everyone’s just themselves with or without it. I didn’t really notice much of an effect from IO either but it kinda worked on myself once with 5 or 6 sprays but I don’t want to spray myself that much, the smell is just too strong. Both were 1x strength. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2008, 11:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shine-taa-ifm-a1/20505/15 "2008-12-05T23:37:03Z")
> [@vic](#): > > I’ve tried 1 spray, 2 sprays, 3 sprays, 4 sprays for months.. tried it mixed with IO and ammo, indoors, outdoors, in cars, classrooms etc. Been using it for about 6 months. Doesn’t work on me or others, everyone’s just themselves with or without it. I didn’t really notice much of an effect from IO either but it kinda worked on myself once with 5 or 6 sprays but I don’t want to spray myself that much, the smell is just too strong. Both were 1x strength. By itself, I really didn’t notice the effects of IS during my testing by itself until I stopped cold turkey. Then I noticed that it had been making me feel a sort of low level overall "better"ness than usual. I have also successfully used it to counter depression and raise mood during major breakups. IS is not necessarily something I would suggest by itself, but it really amps up mixes.