# Shopping list advice **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 7, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shopping-list-advice/56063 "2012-07-07T18:15:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Centaur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Centaur](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Centaur)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shopping-list-advice/56063/1 "2012-07-07T18:15:37Z")
So this is my tentative order. A little info to keep in mind: I am 43, in good shape, likable person (most people agree), attracting people is not too hard for me. I am a bit less social than most people like.. working on it. Goals: attracting women (of course), professional success, and mood enhancement all of the product are the togo versions (until I see proof of this stuff working, I’m still a bit skeptical A314b: Obviously for general base: professional use etc. [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/): Well, I am getting older (although I look a decade younger) so anything that makes this old car shine is welcome 😉 Ammo: For attraction/clubbing/meeting women TUTH: for when things get hot and heavy IO:Not sure about this one- people tend to talk to me easily anyway. I can get stuck in conversations nodding my head as people talk away. “your so easy to talk to” is something I get all the time. Should I get IJ instead? or what else do you guys reccomend? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 6:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shopping-list-advice/56063/2 "2012-07-07T18:23:45Z")
From that list, I’d suggest you are light on socials/moderating/balancing products. If you don’t find it too hard to talk to people, why not go for IH instead of IO - IH/IS is IME a quality over quantity alternative to IO and IH also complements A314 superbly, where IO just wrecks it. IJ is an experience and worth it but maybe its just a little early to unleash its highly unpredictable effects on yourself. Also, IJ was out of stock a few days ago, is it back? Have you thought about the “Killer Newbie Kit” - that has all the main products in togos at a good discount - You must be getting pretty close to it in price with your list? > **[Social Success Pheromone - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/)** > > A314 cologne is a powerful blend of 17 pheromones that enhance your confidence and gives you amazing social experiences you will never forget ---
**Author:** ![Centaur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Centaur](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Centaur)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 6:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shopping-list-advice/56063/3 "2012-07-07T18:33:37Z")
Wow, very cool kit. My question about IH is that it causes “deep rapport”.. I take this to mean it is a more “friends” type of vibe? I tend to have a problem with people seeing me as a very deep guy, and they open up and tell me their life stories- which is very cool, but it leads to more “relationship” desires in women as opposed to “fun”.. and I think I need more help on that front. With women, I mean. Or is IH more about “breaking the ice”? cause I could always use help with that! Either way, your point about IO wrecking 314 is duly noted and off the list. Any otehr ideas. I like the newbie kit, but some of the stuff in it I am not too interested in i.e IO and IG. maybe add the mx 297? So mx297,a314,IO,IS, TUTH and AMMo? ps thanks for the great help ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 7:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shopping-list-advice/56063/4 "2012-07-07T19:16:19Z")
[MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) is a superb social/engaging mix, although it has no none. So when you need to up its sexuality, I would suggest adding some TUTH - I have had remarkable results from that. Again, don’t mix this with A314 as it can be confusing/unproductive. Similarly Ammo - This does work but I find it less effective than TUTH. I have this idea that MX297 (and its derivatives) may not agree with rone. Similarly IH - It depends how you work it. In a professional setting, alongside A314, IH really amplifies the trust/confidence aspect of A314 and it has proved very effective at attracting some colleagues for after-work “social” activity. Just add a sexual when you finish to transition it to a very effective high-status dating mix. IH on its own can go deep and yes, it can drag-out all the things that make for friendzone. However its deep rapport also equals a great sense of shared experience, comfort and bonding in all the right ways. Which is why I usually steer it with IS - This keeps it happy, playful and very good at breaking the ice and getting to the point in an interesting, sexual manner - Again, pairing IH/IS with a sexual and keeping it direct but fun is a good route to precipitate those “it was just meant to happen” moments. Don’t discount IO/IG entirely. It is worth trying them and they can surprise in useful ways - I keep some for moderating strong none mixes and for general social stuff. Similarly IG is a much lighter/more social status product that can be less daunting/serious to many - I would wear a mix based on IG **or** MX297 when I’m out with a younger crowd. Also, as you are into your 40s, you should think on A314/TUTH - a very high status “I know what I want” and unashamed sexual that goes down very well with women closer to your age who are liable to be attuned to its sig. Can scare the younger ones. Just A314/TUTH for maximum impact, don’t steer, modify or dilute it in any way. ---
**Author:** ![Centaur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Centaur](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Centaur)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 8:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/shopping-list-advice/56063/5 "2012-07-07T20:13:36Z")
Mobocaster, you are the Man! not only have you helped me decide my shopping list, thats great advice on usage as well.. Its Sunday now, so I guess I’ll put in my order Monday. Can’t wait, this should be alot of fun. Now my decision is only whether I should get a togo of 314 or just take advantage of the coupon and order the larger one.