# Short and Sweet **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [August 15, 2009, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-and-sweet/31597 "2009-08-15T19:04:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![developingperfectionist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@developingperfectionist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/developingperfectionist)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-and-sweet/31597/21 "2009-10-01T21:26:46Z")
October 1st, 2009 I wore three of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and two sprays of Ammo. To this date, I am finding zero results with Ammo. It’s frustrating, especially to deal with jealously as I see others have great effects with Ammo whereas I find I am practically getting nothing from it! To date, my best results have still been MX301/MX302 mixes. I’m jealous of how others have been much better, but I am going to try improve my mixes better. There is something that I have to note … the importance of logging. I have seen what I believe are hits, but I’m not quite too sure. Then a few weeks later, upon retrospect, it always seems like it may have been a hit, yet, … I can’t remember that specific mix that I was wearing that day. This is how I want to retest mixes, but I’m never sure if I’m applying the correct amounts at that time. If I had logged everything well, I imagine it would have been ten times easier just to find out. The problem is that I always seem to believe that I’ll always “remember what this XX,YY mix was.” I intend to go out to a few bars tonight. I’ll let you know how that goes. I’m already running low on the MX301/302 series. Has anyone ever tried a spray of MX301 and a spray of MX302 combined? Many thanks! ---
**Author:** ![developingperfectionist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@developingperfectionist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/developingperfectionist)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-and-sweet/31597/22 "2009-10-02T18:46:56Z")
Later on that night … Wore: 2 Sprays of MX301 4 Sprays of IS So, I take a shower. Rinse everything out. Take 2 Sprays of MX301. An hour interval between the two. The person I’m meeting is awfully touchy touchy, as if she already has a crush on me, although she already has a boyfriend .This is a very tough measurement though, since she already had a boyfriend, so I’m not sure how much of the effects were just from her depressed over her current chump boyfriend and which part were the mones. I was at the bar, and I had a lot of fun. Lots of hugs, and meeting lots of people. Here comes the predicament .. Is it the DHV that is helping me get more women, the mones, or just the confidence? It’s likely all three, but I can’t exactly tie which one to which. I see my ex in the bar, and I always feel awkward around her. Later on that night, I’m talking with two Vietnamese girls and they seem rather interested. But it’s extremely hard to tell if I’m being fun-mannered or the mones. It’s probably a little of both. In regards to thoughts … the M301 works much better at close quarters. The closer you are around a person, the better it works. ---
**Author:** ![developingperfectionist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@developingperfectionist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/developingperfectionist)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-and-sweet/31597/23 "2009-10-06T18:10:56Z")
Just made a purchase of IG, A314, and MX302 Nothing else that I wanted was in stock … Was really looking forward to a [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) or MX292. ☹ I’m feeling really spacey? with 3 sprays of CTTM2 paired with a spray of MX302. ---
**Author:** ![developingperfectionist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@developingperfectionist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/developingperfectionist)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 6:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-and-sweet/31597/24 "2009-10-12T06:43:47Z")
In the new mix I bought, I really was only able to try out IG recently. I’m a HUUUGE fan of it. I got a really fun hit the other day? I was just on the bus and started talking to a few people. Talked to a girl … really fun time, lots of hair flips … she was really cute too 🙂 Then later on I was able to wear it at another fun event when I was going out. One thing I’d like to mention is the ability to go out and approach people. These mones will NEVER NEVER work if you do not approach. It’s really hard to take my own advice. I was able to approach a few people that night but i wish I had tried harder go out there lots of regrets for that reason! all in all a GOOD night though! Met really fun friends though! Enjoyable and will try harder in the future! ---
**Author:** ![developingperfectionist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@developingperfectionist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/developingperfectionist)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-and-sweet/31597/25 "2009-10-30T16:26:02Z")
So I haven’t updated in a while. Hits have been on and off. I’ve been using IG and 2 Sprays of MX301/MX302 as a daily mix. I realized that I need to get my life in order. It’s frustrating as an undergraduate, I’m not sure where the rest of my life is going. A bit scary at times. I also feel that I’m not as motivated as I should be. That being said, I’m going to adopt a more easier to read style which is — what I put on, how I felt, etc. I’ve been a bit anti-social recently, two weeks of hell mid-terms have really fucked me over. I’m still trying to catch up. I’m going to try to use the mones much more consistently. And to understand them much more. I have a lot! I figure I should at least just use entire bottles up to see where it gets me. I gave up on Ammo (2x) very early on, but I’m going to try it again. I just have to shower more and more and more in case I OD. If I recall correctly, I was oding at practically one spray of Ammo, even though I was 21 and Asian. I was really surprised at this and want to make it work though. ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-and-sweet/31597/26 "2009-10-30T19:05:09Z")
> [@developingperfectionist](#): > > So I haven’t updated in a while. Hits have been on and off. I’ve been using IG and 2 Sprays of MX301/MX302 as a daily mix. I realized that I need to get my life in order. It’s frustrating as an undergraduate, I’m not sure where the rest of my life is going. A bit scary at times. I also feel that I’m not as motivated as I should be. That being said, I’m going to adopt a more easier to read style which is — what I put on, how I felt, etc. > > I’ve been a bit anti-social recently, two weeks of hell mid-terms have really fucked me over. I’m still trying to catch up. > > I’m going to try to use the mones much more consistently. And to understand them much more. I have a lot! I figure I should at least just use entire bottles up to see where it gets me. > > I gave up on Ammo (2x) very early on, but I’m going to try it again. I just have to shower more and more and more in case I OD. If I recall correctly, I was oding at practically one spray of Ammo, even though I was 21 and Asian. I was really surprised at this and want to make it work though. remember that part of od is your targets. younger girls may not respond to too much -none like what is in 2x ammo. likewise, you could wear 2x ammo around older women and get great hits, even though you’re young and asian. keep this general concept in mind as you test. there may be some limiting factors on your end (i personally can’t wear too much -none or else i sweat and flush) but mainly you want to tune your sexual mixes to your targets. status mixes should be tuned to you, social mixes can go any way. i forgot if you ordered this or got it as a gift, but if you’re really having trouble with it, send steve a pm and see if he can switch it out. ammo is a great product that i used extensively when i first started and it really helped me out; i think it can help you too. ---
**Author:** ![developingperfectionist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@developingperfectionist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/developingperfectionist)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-and-sweet/31597/27 "2009-10-31T16:31:30Z")
Jay, Thanks for the response. That is something I haven’t been paying enough attention to. Since I am at a a college campus, most of the girls here are relatively young. **Wore:** 2 IG; 1 MX 301, Later on added one TUTH **Effects On Others** This girl has been hitting on me a lot, and I’ve returned a lot of the flirty behaviors. I hate how wearing shorts, especially at an age filled with testosteromone I have hardons extremely quickly. Anyways, yesterday she was visiting and she was toying around with me … of course I developed a boner. It was obvious, but she didn’t really really mention it. I switched to jeans later. I can’t tell if its the mones or the fact that she is beginning to like me. I know that I don’t want a girlfriend as opposed to a fuck buddy, so I’m hoping I can steer this out the right way. I’ve read how A314 can push it more so to make it a “LR relationship” that girls want … which is not what I want. The mones here are much much more skewed. This girl already likes me, so I’m not sure what is doing what … she also has a sinus infection, so I’m not sure if that will change her ability to smell mones. I have asked her to smell me a few times and she says I smell like ‘cologne’, no other adjectives after that. Hmm. I should note that I seemed more talkative than usual… Not entirely sure. ---
**Author:** ![developingperfectionist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@developingperfectionist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/developingperfectionist)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 7:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-and-sweet/31597/28 "2009-11-02T07:10:07Z")
**Wore** Two IG @ 8:30PM Didn’t get to see if it could effect a girl of Indian Girl Descent until 12:40AM Applied 24’’ of SoE (I just have this left over bottle … and I need to make sure I use this sometime.) Finally – I used at 12:30AM (2 Sprays of MX301). **Effects on Others** Finally to describe, this is a very difficult situation to describe. I have been spending a lot of time with this girl for a while. I know about her relationships, and I have really tried to avoid a situation where we might be going out. I know her other boyfriends and troubles, but I did want to hook up with her for a while. Anywho to describe, she has never been fully receptive toward the mones. I haven’t really understood why, but it might be that she’s a bit more conservative than she is. She’s generally very shy the first few times until you get to know her, so it might be her personality. I am thinking of Catlord’s Theory of Sexual Pressure (it is a theory … but it is something that I’ve thought about in this situation.) With that being said, I did convince her later to get into bed with me. Heavy petting, kissing going on. No actual deed itself. She later confirmed to me what I thought might be true (that was relatively very very new to the act). I had the worst case of blue-balls in the while, but I wasn’t sure how to proceed with it. I didn’t want to force it on her either … tough choice. Anywho, lots of making out for the last eight hours … which resulted in the worst waking up this morning. What did make it all redeeming was … I haven’t wore cologne much for a while, and she was sniffing my neck (which may have been been the IG, or the MX301) and was like you smell really good. I expect it is more likely the MX301 than anything else. That is the second time I’ve been commented on smell. I usually take that the best way. ---
**Author:** ![developingperfectionist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@developingperfectionist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/developingperfectionist)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 7:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-and-sweet/31597/29 "2009-11-02T07:13:41Z")
**Wore** 2 D of A314 for a group meeting. **Effects on Others** I had a group meeting. I’m already the oldest person there by one year (but in college, one year is a really big deal) and the other group members sat on the other side. I was a little perturbed by this, but all these small details may be nothing. I was really tired, but surprisingly, it may have been the A314. I felt a bit more calm and relaxed (which I am not sure if this is the A314 or the fact that I hadn’t slept much at all). * * * Note: I have learned to keep better track of what happens. I will log it in a journal first, ie. “2 sprays @ XX” time. Later on, come back to the day and reflect on it. It helps a lot! On another note, there are a lot of products I have been dying to try, just haven’t found them in stock yet … Really looking forward to trying them out =) ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 6:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-and-sweet/31597/30 "2009-11-02T18:22:11Z")
> [@developingperfectionist](#): > > **Wore** > Two IG @ 8:30PM > Didn’t get to see if it could effect a girl of Indian Girl Descent until 12:40AM > Applied 24’’ of SoE (I just have this left over bottle … and I need to make sure I use this sometime.) > > Finally – I used at 12:30AM (2 Sprays of MX301). > > **Effects on Others** > Finally to describe, this is a very difficult situation to describe. I have been spending a lot of time with this girl for a while. I know about her relationships, and I have really tried to avoid a situation where we might be going out. I know her other boyfriends and troubles, but I did want to hook up with her for a while. > > Anywho to describe, she has never been fully receptive toward the mones. I haven’t really understood why, but it might be that she’s a bit more conservative than she is. She’s generally very shy the first few times until you get to know her, so it might be her personality. I am thinking of Catlord’s Theory of Sexual Pressure (it is a theory … but it is something that I’ve thought about in this situation.) > > With that being said, I did convince her later to get into bed with me. Heavy petting, kissing going on. No actual deed itself. She later confirmed to me what I thought might be true (that was relatively very very new to the act). I had the worst case of blue-balls in the while, but I wasn’t sure how to proceed with it. I didn’t want to force it on her either … tough choice. Anywho, lots of making out for the last eight hours … which resulted in the worst waking up this morning. > > What did make it all redeeming was … I haven’t wore cologne much for a while, and she was sniffing my neck (which may have been been the IG, or the MX301) and was like you smell really good. I expect it is more likely the MX301 than anything else. That is the second time I’ve been commented on smell. I usually take that the best way. ig + mx301 is a great combo and it looks like it worked out well for you. i like to open up notepad or something (even start a post here, but be careful as waiting too long to post will result in a session timeout) and jot down notes as i go. list of pheros, amounts, app time, other factors. if i’m at a party at my place i can sneak into my room and make almost real-time notes. if there are good hits while i’m out i use the note program on my phone. all this does help to keep track of testing. ---
**Author:** ![developingperfectionist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@developingperfectionist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/developingperfectionist)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 1:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-and-sweet/31597/31 "2009-11-03T01:21:54Z")
Jay, Definitely. It helps since if not, sometimes by the next day I forget to log, and then 3 weeks down the road, I’ll remember something about that night and can’t really find out what it was since I didn’t log. I have a notebook next to me, which I am now recording too. But instead of mones .. I really use it for noops abuse much more to get through school. You’re lucky you don’t have a snoopy roommate! My roommate is always so curious. Drives me a bit nuts, can’t help it though, its in his nature. But I have this program called “Tray Minimizer” and when I hit a certain keystroke, the program goes into the bottom right tray. So unless the person knows what I’m hiding, they won’t see it in the taskbar, and it allows me to hide things a bit well. I also use the typical notepad, but I save it in a very secret place and then set up run commands (Windows Key + R) and load the text file. I’m normally a very secretive person =) ---
**Author:** ![developingperfectionist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@developingperfectionist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/developingperfectionist)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 12:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-and-sweet/31597/32 "2009-11-05T00:32:42Z")
**Wore** 1Drop A314 **Self-Effects** I felt more confident? Not sure where this came from. Probably because I haven’t slept yet. **Effects On Others** One girl couldn’t stop staring at me in class. I didn’t do anything to chase, probably should have though. I like this A314. ---
**Author:** ![developingperfectionist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@developingperfectionist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/developingperfectionist)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 5:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-and-sweet/31597/33 "2009-11-06T05:43:57Z")
I think I might have too many products. I’m going to try to test them non-stop, day in and day out at my library every single day over the course of this entire semester. I will try to go out more too. We’ll see how that goes. I just have to handle my procrastination a bit better than I did before. ---
**Author:** ![developingperfectionist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@developingperfectionist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/developingperfectionist)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 5:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-and-sweet/31597/34 "2009-11-06T05:47:13Z")
**Wore** 1D A314, 1Spray IG **Self Effects** None. I was also abusing a few study-drug aids though. **Effects On Others** None today. Perhaps, I should up the dosage. **Date, Time and Place** Classroom in Exam Classroom Public Transportation **Musings** I should up the dosage probably. Not sure if 1D A314 is my sweet spot, I had just presumed I didn’t want to do too many before. ---
**Author:** ![developingperfectionist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@developingperfectionist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/developingperfectionist)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 4:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-and-sweet/31597/35 "2009-11-10T04:06:37Z")
**Wore** 1 MX 301 - I’m trying to figure out if this is why the “friend with benefits is so attracted to me” **Self Effects** None. **Effects On Others** She smells my neck a lot, keeps on commenting I smell good **Date, Time and Place** Dorm **Musings** I’m afraid this is going really fast. She’s a conservative gal, and I might be pushing her completely over the edge! ---
**Author:** ![developingperfectionist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@developingperfectionist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/developingperfectionist)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-and-sweet/31597/36 "2009-11-10T21:19:51Z")
Later on I sprayed 7.5 \* 3 Sprays of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) … not much effect around the girl. She’s going through a lot of stress right now though. I want to see how this progresses further. Will try another power test on her tomorrow night. ---
**Author:** ![developingperfectionist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@developingperfectionist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/developingperfectionist)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 12:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-and-sweet/31597/37 "2009-11-14T12:59:22Z")
**Wore** 2 Sprays of IG 2 Sprays of MX351 22.5 [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) + 15MCG of P83 a few hours later MEO-Est 50MG **Self Effects** None **Effects On Others** I was with the GF… she didn’t seem affected at all! **Date, Time and Place** Went out on a date to grab some Thai food. **Musings** Huge what the .. from this end. Perhaps my fault, since I got a lot of goodies all at one time and I was so curious about trying them all. Anywho, I wore all of this .. and the gf didn’t seem to respond as well? I’m not too sure. She’s already really attracted to me, but personally, I felt that I may have went overboard with this. I didn’t get any significant hits or her go crazy or me. Zip nada. Odd! ---
**Author:** ![developingperfectionist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@developingperfectionist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/developingperfectionist)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 9:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-and-sweet/31597/38 "2009-11-15T09:26:02Z")
**Wore** 1 MX302 Two IG 5 Sprays of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) **Self Effects** None **Effects On Others** Waiting for the GF to come back. She comes back a bit drunk. **Date, Time and Place** @ Night **Musings** I’m a little depressed I guess. I don’t think it’s the mones, probably the coffee thats toying with my sleep a little bit. But anywho, the mones really didn’t affect home at all. She just fell asleep on me. So now … yeah, I’m up at 4:30AM. I was hoping the P83 would come out to what I hoped (5 sprays x 7.5) = 22.5? She sniffed me and said I smell like chicken a bit… odd. I don’t know P83 just hasn’t been solid for me. ---
**Author:** ![williesuave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/74df32/32.png) [@williesuave](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/williesuave)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-and-sweet/31597/39 "2009-11-18T16:33:08Z")
I basically had the same results. I used 1 spray of [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) coupled with 2 sprays of P79, and it did not cause my girl to react in a way that I desired. She was not turned on by P83, and was not in the mood to be touched. ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-and-sweet/31597/40 "2009-11-18T18:35:53Z")
through my testing i’ve found that p83 isn’t entirely sexual by itself, and i think some other members may echo that conclusion. it seems to be more like an intensifier of current emotions. i clearly remember one time i wore it and then somebody said something that got me in a rage, and i was seriously mad for about half an hour. very not like my personality. other times, when paired with something sexual, my gf responded with lots of enthusiasm. if your target is stressed or mad or even just feeling fine but not really sexual, i’d keep the p83 for another day. get her in the right mindset and then throw in some p83 and see what happens. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-and-sweet/31597.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-and-sweet/31597.md?page=3)