# short study

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-study/53653>\
**Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\
**Created:** [December 7, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-study/53653 "2011-12-07T18:14:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![luvumscent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dbc845/32.png) [@luvumscent](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/luvumscent)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-study/53653/1 "2011-12-07T18:14:30Z")

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hi folks. i am interested in meeting guys & gals who have experienced an attraction by the opposite sex under these unique conditions: the guy is a cross-dresser, living as normal a life, without trying to pass as a woman, & not at all attracted to guys; more than casual acquaintances.  
the gals are bi-sexual, but find themselves attracted to this type of guy; partly because of the feminine & partly for the masculine.  
any contributions along these lines are welcomed.

thank you, luvumscent

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**Author:** ![luvumscent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dbc845/32.png) [@luvumscent](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/luvumscent)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 2:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-study/53653/2 "2011-12-08T14:09:12Z")

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it seems to me that a male might be emitting ph’s that attract a bi-sexual woman, & she is responding to BOTH scents; he ph’s & she ph’s. and they both enjoy each other, until she responds to her need for a full man or a full woman. has anyone else experienced these encounters? luvumscent

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 11:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-study/53653/3 "2011-12-08T23:30:34Z")

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There is a possiblity that males who cross dress have a higher ratio of female mones then most men. I have never seen studies on it though. If its true then this in turn could attract Bi sexual women however cross dressing is a fetish derived from a persons emotions, preferences, experiences and usually and inability to identify and connect with there own sexuality. Its not part of the biology its part of the psychology

Bi sexuality and homosexuality is a part of the biology. Brain scans show that in Bi’s and homosexuals brains are wired more like the opposite gender.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![luvumscent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dbc845/32.png) [@luvumscent](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/luvumscent)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 11:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-study/53653/4 "2011-12-08T23:59:03Z")

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although i have seen these studies which tend to dismiss the feelings of the cross-dresser as merely a fetish, which is optional & momentary, i view the dressing as a natural activity of any female personality, of the male experiencing the female inside ‘his’ mind; the mind which is accidentally maturing in a male body. the ‘cross’ part of the errant labeling, is not accurate, except on a supeficial level; as viewed from a remote location. therefore, these ph’s around the female mind/male body person are attracting the female who prefers a woman at times; a man at other times. and these ph’s are a mixture of the male (body) & the female (mind). is it possible for (the real) female to last long with the (not so real) she/he? luvumscent

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 2:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-study/53653/5 "2011-12-09T02:22:49Z")

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Oh I see… the cross dressing man your referring to is straight. I misread and thought he was Bi as well. I am assuming its you ? Then no your pheromone signature is male dominant still even if your connecting with your female side in the mind. Your not biologically wired different you just have different preferences.

Your really only born with your natural biology and few basic emotions. Happiness, love and a startle reflex. Everything else is learned. The way you perceive women through how they dress is how you connect to them and is learned from life experiences. Its not a biological difference in the brain, its a product of thought and emotion. No different then a guy who gets turned and has a fetish for boobs. There is nothing wrong with that if that’s how you connect. There is nothing wrong with being different. Fetish is not really a bad word. It just means something that turns you on that you participate in or think about a lot. I have a honey fetish and a few others as well LOL.

A Bi women who is exposed to a cross dressing straight male is still being attracted by the his male mones. How you dress has little to do with your pheromone signaling of masculine to feminine mones but how the other senses (yours and those exposed to mones) perceive you. In other words the straight male cross dressers pheromone signature is within the same range as any other straight male.

If you were BI or gay then your signature would carry more feminine mones but dressing like a women will not change your mone signature any more then thinking about boobs other then to raise your testosterone a bit.

I do think there are other [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) that can come into play though for the straight cross dresser. Pheromones do not just signal male or female. Perhaps they emit a higher sensitivity or connective mone that matches there personality and thinking and has little to do with gender differences. How we think can effect our pheromone signatures but not beyond there biological boundaries.

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> is it possible for (the real) female to last long with the (not so real) she/he?

I am assuming when your say the “real” female your speaking of the Bi female and the “not so real” female as the straight male cross dresser.

Yes they could last in my opinion. Attraction and commitment are not just based on sexual attraction or pheromonal signaling. Other things come into play and if those things align then the relationship could be great. For instance if there is trust, respect, love, shared beliefs and values then yes it can last. Those are the things that keep relationships together. Its not just arousal.

Now if your asking will that keep the Bi girl from being attracted to and acting on that attraction with other people that’s neither pheromonal or a biological issue. That’s a values and beliefs issue.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![luvumscent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dbc845/32.png) [@luvumscent](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/luvumscent)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 11:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/short-study/53653/6 "2011-12-09T11:24:14Z")

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your info & perspective, point of viewing this subject, are helpful. add to this info thus far these new facts. thru 50 yrs, every serious relationship (6 marriages) involved a bi-female. though it was not known to either of us our predilictions for our behavior, we were drawn to each other physically, emotionally, & seriously; including trust, faith, common interests & goals. it is this list of unions, all with identical beginnings, that prompts this inquiry. thank you for all your thoughts. (each union ended because the 'male & ‘female’ in me could not accept the sharing with others in her bi-ness. each wanted other men, as well as women.) t/y luvumscent
